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Check out the injury updates from the finals clubs.
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Noah Answerth Shoulder Season Will Ashcroft Knee Season Jack Gunston Knee 1 week James Madden Shoulder Season Lincoln McCarthy Calf Test Carter Michael Quad Season Daniel Rich Hamstring TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
McCarthy will take his place in the team to play Port Adelaide, barring any final mishaps, while Rich is expected to return through the VFL against Williamstown on Saturday to keep his chances alive of a recall to the seniors during finals. – Michael Whiting
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Blake Acres Collarbone Test Alex Mirkov Heart Season Jack Silvagni Knee 1-2 weeks Zac Williams Knee SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Acres completed the Blues' main session on Tuesday, but will undergo a more stringent fitness test on Thursday to determine his availability for Friday night's elimination final against the Swans. Silvagni will definitely miss, but Patrick Cripps and Sam Docherty are certainties to return from soreness. Jesse Motlop has recovered from illness and is available. – Riley Beveridge
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Josh Carmichael Concussion Test Nick Daicos Knee 1 week Charlie Dean Foot Season Ash Johnson Arm TBC Will Kelly Ankle TBC Reef McInnes Collarbone 1-2 weeks Jakob Ryan Concussion TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Collingwood will regain Darcy Moore and Nathan Murphy for Thursday night’s qualifying final. Daicos is still at least one week away from returning from the hairline fracture in his knee. Johnson injured his arm in the VFL on the weekend and won’t be available for selection. – Josh Gabelich
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Leek Aleer Toe Season Toby Bedford Suspension Week two of finals Finn Callaghan Achilles Test Max Gruzewski Foot Season Cooper Hamilton Foot Season Darcy Jones Knee Season Adam Kennedy Knee Season Sam Taylor Hamstring TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
The Giants will determine whether Callaghan and Taylor are available after Thursday's main session, but both made it through light duties on Tuesday. Bedford will miss Saturday's elimination final against the Saints through suspension, unless he's successful at the AFL Appeal Board on Thursday – Riley Beveridge
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Ben Brown Knee TBC Luke Dunstan Knee Season Bayley Fritsch Foot Test Blake Howes Hand Season Jake Melksham Knee Season Harrison Petty Foot Season Oliver Sestan Elbow SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Fritsch is no certainty to play on Thursday night, with the forward reinjuring his foot in the final round. Scans cleared him of any serious damage, but he spent time in a moonboot and will face a fitness test before the qualifying final. Michael Hibberd has exited concussion protocols and is available for selection, while Brown (knee soreness) has been on light training duties and looks unlikely to be available. – Alison O’Connor
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Tom Clurey Back Season Charlie Dixon Foot 1-2 weeks Mitch Georgiades Knee Season Trent McKenzie Knee Test Josh Sinn Hamstring Season Dante Visentini Quad 1-2 weeksUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Mixed news for Port with McKenzie right in the frame to take his place against Brisbane after missing the final three games of the home and away season, while Dixon has resumed running but is "at least" another week away, according to the club. – Michael Whiting
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Jack Hayes Calf/knee Season Olli Hotton Groin Season Isaac Keeler Knee Season Zak Jones Knee TBC Dan McKenzie Calf TBC Angus McLennan Back Season Seb Ross Hamstring Test James Van Es Ankle SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Dougal Howard and Josh Battle are both available for selection after training on Tuesday. Ross is pushing to be fit in time for Saturday’s elimination final against Greater Western Sydney. Hayes’ season is over after straining his calf at training last week. The South Australian will now undergo a cleanout in his knee. – Josh Gabelich
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Justin McInerney Calf Test Sam Reid Hamstring Season Marc Sheather Foot Season Angus Sheldrick Ankle Season Cooper Vickery Foot TBCUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
With Tom Papley expected to be available after a hamstring issue, the major focus in Sydney this week will be on McInerney, who hasn't played since round 20 due to a calf problem. He's returned to full training and is a test to face the Blues. – Martin Smith
*Placed on the club's long-term injury list
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Noah Answerth Shoulder Season Will Ashcroft Knee Season Jack Gunston Knee 1 week James Madden Shoulder Season Lincoln McCarthy Calf Test Carter Michael Quad Season Daniel Rich Hamstring TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
McCarthy will take his place in the team to play Port Adelaide, barring any final mishaps, while Rich is expected to return through the VFL against Williamstown on Saturday to keep his chances alive of a recall to the seniors during finals. – Michael Whiting
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Blake Acres Collarbone Test Alex Mirkov Heart Season Jack Silvagni Knee 1-2 weeks Zac Williams Knee SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Acres completed the Blues' main session on Tuesday, but will undergo a more stringent fitness test on Thursday to determine his availability for Friday night's elimination final against the Swans. Silvagni will definitely miss, but Patrick Cripps and Sam Docherty are certainties to return from soreness. Jesse Motlop has recovered from illness and is available. – Riley Beveridge
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Josh Carmichael Concussion Test Nick Daicos Knee 1 week Charlie Dean Foot Season Ash Johnson Arm TBC Will Kelly Ankle TBC Reef McInnes Collarbone 1-2 weeks Jakob Ryan Concussion TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Collingwood will regain Darcy Moore and Nathan Murphy for Thursday night’s qualifying final. Daicos is still at least one week away from returning from the hairline fracture in his knee. Johnson injured his arm in the VFL on the weekend and won’t be available for selection. – Josh Gabelich
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Leek Aleer Toe Season Toby Bedford Suspension Week two of finals Finn Callaghan Achilles Test Max Gruzewski Foot Season Cooper Hamilton Foot Season Darcy Jones Knee Season Adam Kennedy Knee Season Sam Taylor Hamstring TestUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
The Giants will determine whether Callaghan and Taylor are available after Thursday's main session, but both made it through light duties on Tuesday. Bedford will miss Saturday's elimination final against the Saints through suspension, unless he's successful at the AFL Appeal Board on Thursday – Riley Beveridge
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Ben Brown Knee TBC Luke Dunstan Knee Season Bayley Fritsch Foot Test Blake Howes Hand Season Jake Melksham Knee Season Harrison Petty Foot Season Oliver Sestan Elbow SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Fritsch is no certainty to play on Thursday night, with the forward reinjuring his foot in the final round. Scans cleared him of any serious damage, but he spent time in a moonboot and will face a fitness test before the qualifying final. Michael Hibberd has exited concussion protocols and is available for selection, while Brown (knee soreness) has been on light training duties and looks unlikely to be available. – Alison O’Connor
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Tom Clurey Back Season Charlie Dixon Foot 1-2 weeks Mitch Georgiades Knee Season Trent McKenzie Knee Test Josh Sinn Hamstring Season Dante Visentini Quad 1-2 weeksUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Mixed news for Port with McKenzie right in the frame to take his place against Brisbane after missing the final three games of the home and away season, while Dixon has resumed running but is "at least" another week away, according to the club. – Michael Whiting
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Jack Hayes Calf/knee Season Olli Hotton Groin Season Isaac Keeler Knee Season Zak Jones Knee TBC Dan McKenzie Calf TBC Angus McLennan Back Season Seb Ross Hamstring Test James Van Es Ankle SeasonUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
Dougal Howard and Josh Battle are both available for selection after training on Tuesday. Ross is pushing to be fit in time for Saturday’s elimination final against Greater Western Sydney. Hayes’ season is over after straining his calf at training last week. The South Australian will now undergo a cleanout in his knee. – Josh Gabelich
PLAYER INJURY ESTIMATED RETURN Justin McInerney Calf Test Sam Reid Hamstring Season Marc Sheather Foot Season Angus Sheldrick Ankle Season Cooper Vickery Foot TBCUpdated: September 5, 2023
Early prognosis
With Tom Papley expected to be available after a hamstring issue, the major focus in Sydney this week will be on McInerney, who hasn't played since round 20 due to a calf problem. He's returned to full training and is a test to face the Blues. – Martin Smith
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Do you think that Brayden Maynard should be suspended?
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Based on other incidents this year, yes he should be rubbed out for three matches. Intent doesn't seem to matter at all now, it's if the contact made had the potential to cause injury. As Brayshaw was clearly concussed, they will probably argue the fact he braced mid air (turned partly side on) meant that in the half second of the incident he clearly had time to prevent the head contact somehow. I am a bit surprised they didn't give Maynard a free kick for a perfectly normal football action prior to reporting him.
I don't fully agree, but any contact to the head now, no matter how it happens is very risky, especially those leading to a concussion. Next thing you know, they will make helmets mandatory to prevent incidents like this...
I don't fully agree, but any contact to the head now, no matter how it happens is very risky, especially those leading to a concussion. Next thing you know, they will make helmets mandatory to prevent incidents like this...
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I wonder what the AFL would suggest that Brayden should/could have done differently.
Here is my breakdown of the incident.
1) Maynard approaches Brayshaw.
2) Maynard realises that Brayshaw is about to kick, so jumps in an attempt to smother/touch the ball
3) Maynard, in mid-air, sees Brayshaw rapidly coming towards him so
4) Maynard braces before contact is made.
5) Maynard and Brayshaw collide.
So, is the issue that Maynard braced for contact? I just have no idea what else he could do. In mid-air, he couldn't move out of Brayshaw's path, he could only a) brace for contact or b) not brace for contact. Isn't bracing the right thing to do as he has a duty of care for his own safety, right?
Here is my breakdown of the incident.
1) Maynard approaches Brayshaw.
2) Maynard realises that Brayshaw is about to kick, so jumps in an attempt to smother/touch the ball
3) Maynard, in mid-air, sees Brayshaw rapidly coming towards him so
4) Maynard braces before contact is made.
5) Maynard and Brayshaw collide.
So, is the issue that Maynard braced for contact? I just have no idea what else he could do. In mid-air, he couldn't move out of Brayshaw's path, he could only a) brace for contact or b) not brace for contact. Isn't bracing the right thing to do as he has a duty of care for his own safety, right?
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Issue is he turned midair to bump & got Brayshaw in the head
If he just kept his arms outstretched like he was when trying to smoother then he cushions the impact on Brayshaw
Instead he has turned & dropped his shoulder into his head
He failed his duty of care, rules are very clear about when you make the decision to leave the ground. Maynard decided to jump in the air to try to smoother then in midair went to bump & collected his opponent in the head.
If he just kept his arms outstretched like he was when trying to smoother then he cushions the impact on Brayshaw
Instead he has turned & dropped his shoulder into his head
He failed his duty of care, rules are very clear about when you make the decision to leave the ground. Maynard decided to jump in the air to try to smoother then in midair went to bump & collected his opponent in the head.
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If Maynard gets suspended for this, it’s a slippery slop. Player goes for a speccy and accidentally knocks out the person they’ve jumped on? Footy act.. off the ground.. would hate to see the amazing marks legislated out of the game but if accidental head contact from footy acts becomes suspensions it’s all on the table.
Also if it’s true, I don’t love the AFL intervention to send it to the tribunal.
Also if it’s true, I don’t love the AFL intervention to send it to the tribunal.
Maynard pre meditated before the game he was going to get someone if you know what I mean. 😉 Tough game of footy. We could listen to all the arguments for and against, unfortunately it's out of his control now. I'm not going to argue either way, with the appointment of Kane we'll see more clarity re suspensions and head high knocks.
Did you notice Brayshaw changing direction after he kicks? Clearly this contributes to it being head related impact rather than shoulder to shoulder impact
Bracing for impact - did you notice Brayshaw does exactly the same? Tucks his right arm to brace for impact? It's the natural instinctive reaction for both.
I'm not saying he'll get off or suspended, I'm saying there is a lot more to consider
Bracing for impact - did you notice Brayshaw does exactly the same? Tucks his right arm to brace for impact? It's the natural instinctive reaction for both.
I'm not saying he'll get off or suspended, I'm saying there is a lot more to consider
Yes of course he would. Im not sure what’s so hard to understand here? If you bump an opposition player and knock him out you get suspended.
It all boils down to Maynard bumping him in the head, all the “he couldn’t do anything else” is madness. Was harder for him to turn the shoulder than to put his hands in front of himself to cushion the impact.
I don’t agree with it but that’s the precedent set.
It all boils down to Maynard bumping him in the head, all the “he couldn’t do anything else” is madness. Was harder for him to turn the shoulder than to put his hands in front of himself to cushion the impact.
I don’t agree with it but that’s the precedent set.
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I got downvoted on reddit for suggesting that people aren't necessarily slagging Maynard off for the decision he made when he elected to turn his body and shoulder inwards - people are just providing a fact on what he did and that the precedent set is you need to have a duty of care when you leave the ground.
A smother is not a football action where you 100% have to leave the ground every single time for it be effective. Same thing with a bump. Bumps where you leave the ground and make head high contact get scrutinised far heavier than just a normal bump that also makes head high contact. This situation is no different. If you leave the ground, you are absolutely responsible for what happens next regarding contact.
Unfortunately, it is not the perfect world. These guys have to make a split-second decision and they can get it wrong. This is a scenario where Maynard got it wrong and that is just the facts.
The precedent that has been set all year has been is that if you are careless and catch someone with head high contact with severe enough force to leave them unconscious (or go off for a HIA), then you are very likely to be suspended. This is a precedent set in the midst of the AFL's largest and on-going concussion lawsuit.
In my opinion, it would be extremely egregious if the AFL backflipped on this precedent on the basis that it's finals and "there was nothing more he could do". So many football actions this year have gone suspended because of the outcome. The outcome was that Brayshaw was so severely concussed to a point he had to be carted off.
Feel like there is no real argument here. He made a mistake and that mistake is just part of the precedent set this year. Anything less than 3 weeks is the AFL playing club politics.
A smother is not a football action where you 100% have to leave the ground every single time for it be effective. Same thing with a bump. Bumps where you leave the ground and make head high contact get scrutinised far heavier than just a normal bump that also makes head high contact. This situation is no different. If you leave the ground, you are absolutely responsible for what happens next regarding contact.
Unfortunately, it is not the perfect world. These guys have to make a split-second decision and they can get it wrong. This is a scenario where Maynard got it wrong and that is just the facts.
The precedent that has been set all year has been is that if you are careless and catch someone with head high contact with severe enough force to leave them unconscious (or go off for a HIA), then you are very likely to be suspended. This is a precedent set in the midst of the AFL's largest and on-going concussion lawsuit.
In my opinion, it would be extremely egregious if the AFL backflipped on this precedent on the basis that it's finals and "there was nothing more he could do". So many football actions this year have gone suspended because of the outcome. The outcome was that Brayshaw was so severely concussed to a point he had to be carted off.
Feel like there is no real argument here. He made a mistake and that mistake is just part of the precedent set this year. Anything less than 3 weeks is the AFL playing club politics.
Interesting discussion.
I agree with @Bermi, that finals, particularly for high profile players, seem to get adjudicated differently at the tribunal. Does that mean 1 instead of 3? Who knows? 🤷
Also, they definitely used to ping people if jumping contributed to the impact/result, as you had less control and should have used better judgement. Interesting that jumping used to count against you, but some people think because he was airborne he has a better defence.
Just my 2 cents.... there is bracing for impact, and then there's turning your shoulder into someone's face/head. During the season 3-4 weeks, but they'll throw him a life line and give him 0 or 1.🫣
I agree with @Bermi, that finals, particularly for high profile players, seem to get adjudicated differently at the tribunal. Does that mean 1 instead of 3? Who knows? 🤷
Also, they definitely used to ping people if jumping contributed to the impact/result, as you had less control and should have used better judgement. Interesting that jumping used to count against you, but some people think because he was airborne he has a better defence.
Just my 2 cents.... there is bracing for impact, and then there's turning your shoulder into someone's face/head. During the season 3-4 weeks, but they'll throw him a life line and give him 0 or 1.🫣