Opinion 2024 AFL SuperCoach Planning Thread

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Just saying, this year my strategy is to try to pick a team that won't need a bunch of fixing early on and actually try to conserve a good amount of trades for the second half of the season. To be in a position of power for the run home.
Thats my aim every year šŸ™‚ Somehow I just never make it work the I planned šŸ˜Ŗ I still say that round one is the most round of the year.
Hopefully this year I will do better than 80,0000 after round one šŸ˜ šŸ¤”
 
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Thats my aim every year šŸ™‚ Somehow I just never make it work the I planned šŸ˜Ŗ I still say that round one is the most round of the year.
Hopefully this year I will do better after round one than 80,0000 šŸ˜ šŸ¤”
Was the way to play pre boosts and massive trade count, think the more aggressive play is the only way to contend now was the only way I ever got as high as top 20 just can't make up the points anymore as the top sides have banked the points early and completed their teams so quickly.
 
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I havenā€™t sat down and really crunched the numbers by my gut feel is people are overthinking the early byes a little bit.

The way I see it, Team A avoids round 0 players to avoid their byes. Team B picks the team they see as being the best value/options and includes some round 0 players. It seems like a lot of people are comparing that extra premium vs everyone elseā€™s 19th player, but thatā€™s flawed logic. Itā€™s not premium vs 19th, itā€™s the aggregate of the top 18, so looking at a simplified example:

Team A: 6x A preimums, 6 B premiums, 6 rookies.
So they get say 6x 110 + 6x 95 + 6x 65 for 1620 points.

Team B: 8x A premiums + 3 B premiums + 7 rookies
So they get say 8x 110 + 3x 95 + 7x 65 for 1620 points

So while team B had one less premium, they overall scored the same but are also we position for future rounds with better premiums.

Not to say all the best premiums are round 0 and you definitely need a balance so it doesnā€™t skew too far, but itā€™s worth objectively sitting back and comparing some of the low/none round 0 teams can those who have taken the best premiums regardless.

I think weā€™ll find the team that gets the value picks right, and starts the best top premiums will still come out on top regardless of early byes.

Also worth noting, often in bye rounds it can be a premium that srops out due to injury or poor game. So no guarantee an extra premium is better.

Basically the point of this rant is, donā€™t pass on a gun selection because of round 0. If you want them, start them. Find balance, but avoiding a great player because of an early bye isnā€™t a guarantee to lead to more points!
 

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I havenā€™t sat down and really crunched the numbers by my gut feel is people are overthinking the early byes a little bit.

The way I see it, Team A avoids round 0 players to avoid their byes. Team B picks the team they see as being the best value/options and includes some round 0 players. It seems like a lot of people are comparing that extra premium vs everyone elseā€™s 19th player, but thatā€™s flawed logic. Itā€™s not premium vs 19th, itā€™s the aggregate of the top 18, so looking at a simplified example:

Team A: 6x A preimums, 6 B premiums, 6 rookies.
So they get say 6x 110 + 6x 95 + 6x 65 for 1620 points.

Team B: 8x A premiums + 3 B premiums + 7 rookies
So they get say 8x 110 + 3x 95 + 7x 65 for 1620 points

So while team B had one less premium, they overall scored the same but are also we position for future rounds with better premiums.

Not to say all the best premiums are round 0 and you definitely need a balance so it doesnā€™t skew too far, but itā€™s worth objectively sitting back and comparing some of the low/none round 0 teams can those who have taken the best premiums regardless.

I think weā€™ll find the team that gets the value picks right, and starts the best top premiums will still come out on top regardless of early byes.

Also worth noting, often in bye rounds it can be a premium that srops out due to injury or poor game. So no guarantee an extra premium is better.

Basically the point of this rant is, donā€™t pass on a gun selection because of round 0. If you want them, start them. Find balance, but avoiding a great player because of an early bye isnā€™t a guarantee to lead to more points!
The only issue that I see with that example is that it is comparing two different structures. Or are you suggesting that Team A wouldnā€™t be able to get to 9 x A premiums due to the smaller player pool of 10 clubs compared to looking at all 18?
 

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What do we think happens here? Port will play one ruck they have said. Doesnā€™t that make Soldio the front runner or is Sweet a real chance of being a better ruck choice for them. History with Port rucks has been poor for me.

That $50k tied up in Sweet at R3 is burning a hole in my pocket.
I have Sweet in a keeper league. My heart sank when I heard Sweet say that he moved to be closer to home.
 
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The only issue that I see with that example is that it is comparing two different structures. Or are you suggesting that Team A wouldnā€™t be able to get to 9 x A premiums due to the smaller player pool of 10 clubs compared to looking at all 18?
Yeah that was my thought too. I think there are enough similar starting premiums that teams can pick a side without many round 0 premiums and still have comparable options.

If Team A and B pick the same structures, but with different options for who those players are, the team with less Round 0 premiums should be ahead. But I agree it wonā€™t be by as much as people first thought.

Hereā€™s how I see my priorities for picking a team.
Priority 1 = pick you two captain options, being the players you think will finish the year with the highest total scores.
Priority 2 = pick all the best rookie options, except donā€™t start any Lions and Blues rookies as they have the round 2 bye, so we can see two scores, then see if theyā€™re picked after their bye for round 3.
Priority 3 = premiums and value options from non-Opening Round clubs
Priority 4 = value options from Opening Round clubs
Priority 5 = premiums from Opening Round clubs
 
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I havenā€™t sat down and really crunched the numbers by my gut feel is people are overthinking the early byes a little bit.

The way I see it, Team A avoids round 0 players to avoid their byes. Team B picks the team they see as being the best value/options and includes some round 0 players. It seems like a lot of people are comparing that extra premium vs everyone elseā€™s 19th player, but thatā€™s flawed logic. Itā€™s not premium vs 19th, itā€™s the aggregate of the top 18, so looking at a simplified example:

Team A: 6x A preimums, 6 B premiums, 6 rookies.
So they get say 6x 110 + 6x 95 + 6x 65 for 1620 points.

Team B: 8x A premiums + 3 B premiums + 7 rookies
So they get say 8x 110 + 3x 95 + 7x 65 for 1620 points

So while team B had one less premium, they overall scored the same but are also we position for future rounds with better premiums.

Not to say all the best premiums are round 0 and you definitely need a balance so it doesnā€™t skew too far, but itā€™s worth objectively sitting back and comparing some of the low/none round 0 teams can those who have taken the best premiums regardless.

I think weā€™ll find the team that gets the value picks right, and starts the best top premiums will still come out on top regardless of early byes.

Also worth noting, often in bye rounds it can be a premium that srops out due to injury or poor game. So no guarantee an extra premium is better.

Basically the point of this rant is, donā€™t pass on a gun selection because of round 0. If you want them, start them. Find balance, but avoiding a great player because of an early bye isnā€™t a guarantee to lead to more points!
I don't think people are passing on A premiums because of round zero, just making sure they don't have to much exposure to them. Daicos for example is very popular.
 
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