2015: Rookies

[OzRulesFootball]

How many $200k+ rookie mids are people thinking of starting?

I have two currently, but am wondering if it is worth trying to squeeze in three? I guess I can always corrective trade prior to round three and swap one of the two to another $200k+ if I found I made the wrong call.

As Grant said probably pushing your luck. I not sure how many I had last year but remember I had at least 3 expensive rookies from start with mixed success.
Tyson, Luke McDonald and Polec but for mine Tyson was a lock despite his price as he really was not a rookie in sense of someone virtually new. He was almost walk up start in Dees team and had been on GWS list from start and was rated highly but think missed a few games via injury. Polec a little similar but probably a year older. Not sure there is any Polec or Tyson types this year. I remember I got burnt the year before getting Koby Stevens that was expensive along with Whitfield, Wines. Karnezis and Toumpas. My season was virtually over in round two so will not be going there again of more than 1 or 2 expensive rookies. Not sure if I had O'Meara too but they need to score well and make about $160K profit to be what I consider worth thinking about. Wines and Tyson probably types I consider a success as rookies around 200K mark but that is all. I'm sure I had Brett Goodes too but think he was not so expensive.

Last year I did a hell of a lot better with my rookies and did not pick them until round one teams were being announced so do not intend to steer far from that path.

 

[PC]

Ok, thanks for all the $200k+ question responses.

Lets throw up this hypothetical

de Goey v Boekhorst

Both start Round 1. Boekhorst is the sub and stays the sub for most games, de Goey plays full games.

Just considering the $70k price difference in the initial purchase and the sub/non sub status - who is a better rookie choice?

 

[IDIG]

Another 200k'er to consider ($240k to be exact) who might be spending time in the ruck.

Lee set for new role as Saints think big

ST KILDA will use the NAB Challenge to trial a two-pronged ruck attack, with forward Tom Lee also shaping as a pinch-hit option after a standout pre-season.

With No.1 ruckman Tom Hickey sidelined for the Saints' first NAB Challenge match against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday, American rookie Jason Holmes has been selected to support Billy Longer in the ruck.

Last season, coach Alan Richardson preferred to play one genuine ruckman with support from versatile tall Rhys Stanley, but the preferred structure could change in 2015 with Stanley's departure to Geelong.

Richardson said developing his ruckmen's ability to have an impact when forward was the key to playing dual big men.

"We certainly think [our ruckmen] have the potential to go forward and do a bit of damage in terms of marking the ball and giving us a really strong contest," the coach said.

"We'll have a look at that tomorrow at times … with 'Holmesy' and with Billy.

"Josh Bruce and Tommy Lee both have the attributes to be able to go into the ruck for us, so we'll have a look at those two through the NAB Challenge."

Richardson said he was looking forward to watching Lee in the pre-season competition after a strong summer.

The 24-year-old hasn't been able to cement a spot in the Saints' forward line despite repeated opportunities, but Richardson suggested he was better prepared to emerge as a regular in 2015.

"There's no doubt Tommy's had a really good run at it," he said.

"He hasn't missed a beat on the training track, he's worked hard and he looks different, he looks like he's bulked up.

"He's certainly running with much more power on the training track, our numbers suggest that, so I'm really looking forward to watching Tommy strut his stuff."

Richardson has also been encouraged by Holmes's form this pre-season, with the American rookie doing "everything right". His opportunities during the season proper will likely be dependent on the Saints' long-term injury list.

"His attitude and commitment to his footy and to his footy club and his mates has been outstanding, and if that continues I've got no doubt he'll get there," Richardson said.

"At this stage Hickey and Longer would still be in front; Lewis Pierce is another young player who has some room to move but is heading in the right direction."

 

[whiteTiga2k]

Ok, thanks for all the $200k+ question responses.

Lets throw up this hypothetical

de Goey v Boekhorst

Both start Round 1. Boekhorst is the sub and stays the sub for most games, de Goey plays full games.

Just considering the $70k price difference in the initial purchase and the sub/non sub status - who is a better rookie choice?

There's only one right answer right?

 

[OzRulesFootball]

Ok, thanks for all the $200k+ question responses.

Lets throw up this hypothetical

de Goey v Boekhorst

Both start Round 1. Boekhorst is the sub and stays the sub for most games, de Goey plays full games.

Just considering the $70k price difference in the initial purchase and the sub/non sub status - who is a better rookie choice?

Wait until April 2nd around 7pm to decide.
Why may you ask?
By then you know the Carlton round one team including whom is sub and you will also have the Collingwood team by that stage of the 22 named plus three emergencies. You will then know if de Goey and Boekhurst are serious round one rookies to play.

 

[Beg2Differ]

Ok, thanks for all the $200k+ question responses.

Lets throw up this hypothetical

de Goey v Boekhorst

Both start Round 1. Boekhorst is the sub and stays the sub for most games, de Goey plays full games.

Just considering the $70k price difference in the initial purchase and the sub/non sub status - who is a better rookie choice?

As a matter of principle I would happily pay an extra $70k for a different player if it results in significantly reduced vest risk. The problem is you can never really know that.

 

[BC]

By the times it the eve of the first game I think there'll be enough def rookies to field 2. Then theres WhiteX and macmillan.
I think were gonna be alright kids.

 

[_Slip_]

Hey BC

I hope you are right. At this stage Macmillan is my D6 which he has been for the last 3 weeks. Apart from Saad on the bench no other rookie defenders are jumping out yet. I hope more present themselves as saad is still no guarantee for rd 1.

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Just found out that Saad is a DEF/MID, thats a bonus!!!

 

[Bomber18]

Kyle Langford ($142k) impressing at Essendon and a chance for Round 1 (According to Callum Twomey). Definitely one to keep an eye on in the Bombers VFL v Saints game.

 

[IDIG]

Ok, thanks for all the $200k+ question responses.

Lets throw up this hypothetical

de Goey v Boekhorst

Both start Round 1. Boekhorst is the sub and stays the sub for most games, de Goey plays full games.

Just considering the $70k price difference in the initial purchase and the sub/non sub status - who is a better rookie choice?

Gotta be de Goey in that scenario i think. I'm sure there'd be others who could do the math better than I but everytime these rookies get subbed, their breakeven's go through the roof. If de Goey is playing full games he'd be good for 60-90 and probably a $100k-200k increase.

 

[chels]

Gotta be de Goey in that scenario i think. I'm sure there'd be others who could do the math better than I but everytime these rookies get subbed, their breakeven's go through the roof. If de Goey is playing full games he'd be good for 60-90 and probably a $100k-200k increase.

We might be better at the math IDIG (and I stress might, except in Rowsus's case), but that does not mean we are better at estimating scores for the coming season. Both factors are needed.

 

[Bobbie]

Vandenberg has been named to play on Thursday.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Reilly O'Brien $117,400 Adelaiade ruckman.

Looks like we might actually have a rookie ruckman play round 1. Just need him to keep playing well in NAB.

"O'Brien impressed in his first senior opportunity in the club's opening NAB Challenge clash against North Melbourne in Port Lincoln on March 1, winning 14 hit-outs and eight disposals.

Crows coach Phil Walsh said the 19-year-old would lead the club's ruck department against the Cats in an attempt to ease Jacobs back into action.

If O'Brien continued to perform, the coach said he'd debut against North Melbourne in round one."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-10/sauce-to-play-second-bottle

 

[Hawk]

Reilly O'Brien $117,400 Adelaiade ruckman.

Looks like we might actually have a rookie ruckman play round 1. Just need him to keep playing well in NAB.

"O'Brien impressed in his first senior opportunity in the club's opening NAB Challenge clash against North Melbourne in Port Lincoln on March 1, winning 14 hit-outs and eight disposals.

Crows coach Phil Walsh said the 19-year-old would lead the club's ruck department against the Cats in an attempt to ease Jacobs back into action.

If O'Brien continued to perform, the coach said he'd debut against North Melbourne in round one."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-10/sauce-to-play-second-bottle

Great news Ben! Fingers crossed this can happen!

 

[Dynamo]

Great news Ben! Fingers crossed this can happen!

Great news for R3, not so good if you have Jacobs at R1

 

[Aneil915]

Reilly O'Brien $117,400 Adelaiade ruckman.

Looks like we might actually have a rookie ruckman play round 1. Just need him to keep playing well in NAB.

"O'Brien impressed in his first senior opportunity in the club's opening NAB Challenge clash against North Melbourne in Port Lincoln on March 1, winning 14 hit-outs and eight disposals.

Crows coach Phil Walsh said the 19-year-old would lead the club's ruck department against the Cats in an attempt to ease Jacobs back into action.

If O'Brien continued to perform, the coach said he'd debut against North Melbourne in round one."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-10/sauce-to-play-second-bottle

Think I might still go with a R/F at R3.. Is O'Brien going to make enough money to trade?

EDIT: never mind.. he is a R/F

 

[Blaze]

Great news for R3, not so good if you have Jacobs at R1

I seriously can't imagine him playing. You will knock me down with a feather if he does!!! Riley seems a great kid and has been doing really well but I think he has a long way to go before making a debut - has anyone see his kicking technique?!! That shot from 20 out on a slight angle that barely made the distance apparently had team mates in stitches!

What it really says is that they don't think much of Lowden.....not sure why he hasn't appeared yet in the NAB as there is no word that he is injured.

I guess if Jacobs went down (please god no) then Riley may get a go ahead of Lowden but as long as Jacobs/Jenkins are fit then surely they carry on as they did last year on the ruck front.

 

[PC]

I would say Holmes maybe has the best chance of being a rookie ruck to play round 1?

 

[Zim^zuM]

I seriously can't imagine him playing. You will knock me down with a feather if he does!!! Riley seems a great kid and has been doing really well but I think he has a long way to go before making a debut - has anyone see his kicking technique?!! That shot from 20 out on a slight angle that barely made the distance apparently had team mates in stitches!

What it really says is that they don't think much of Lowden.....not sure why he hasn't appeared yet in the NAB as there is no word that he is injured.

I guess if Jacobs went down (please god no) then Riley may get a go ahead of Lowden but as long as Jacobs/Jenkins are fit then surely they carry on as they did last year on the ruck front.

Even if he does debut does he play enough for even one price rise? I'd put him as R3 but not R2 lol. I think he needs to say these comments to keep up the competition for places, he cant say he is no chance making players like Jenkins complacent.