2015: Rookies
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At this stage I am assuming I will be playing a rookie on field - leap of faith required but I am sure we will have an option to start on field.
Remember Ben Nason? In 2010 the pre-season was all doom and gloom with defence rookies. Nason turned up almost at the last minute. Those with the guts to start him were rewarded with a string of games (played first 20 games) and a decent enough average for a defender rookie (averaged 61 up to R10). I don't know what his price was at upgrade time but I assume it was around $250K.
I am trying not to talk myself into a too conservative position in defence and pick a no upside/$480K guy for the sake of if it means leaving out a much better upside prospect in another position.
At this stage I am assuming I will be playing a rookie on field - leap of faith required but I am sure we will have an option to start on field.
Remember Ben Nason? In 2010 the pre-season was all doom and gloom with defence rookies. Nason turned up almost at the last minute. Those with the guts to start him were rewarded with a string of games (played first 20 games) and a decent enough average for a defender rookie (averaged 61 up to R10). I don't know what his price was at upgrade time but I assume it was around $250K.
I am trying not to talk myself into a too conservative position in defence and pick a no upside/$480K guy for the sake of if it means leaving out a much better upside prospect in another position.
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Yep, Good question.
We definitely need 2 to sit on the bench but 3 brings up more questions. You are now comparing a defensive rookie to a mid or a forward rookie? You are now comparing a defensive keeper to a keeper somewhere else on the ground? You are now comparing a defensive rookie to a defensive mid pricer? Dammit PC. I was so relaxed.
It looks like we might have a few more options. Saad at Gold Coast, McIntosh at Richmond and Kelly at the Doggies have shown in the NAB they might average about 60 and make some money and I'd be happy with that. If we were comparing Nathan Brown to Taylor Hunt sitting at D6 I think I would take Taylor Hunt. Probably make the same money but Hunt can average 20 to 30 points more and will be an easier jump to a keeper when the time comes. I don't think you could take Nathan Brown in place of a forward or mid rookie.
We definitely need 2 to sit on the bench but 3 brings up more questions. You are now comparing a defensive rookie to a mid or a forward rookie? You are now comparing a defensive keeper to a keeper somewhere else on the ground? You are now comparing a defensive rookie to a defensive mid pricer? Dammit PC. I was so relaxed.
It looks like we might have a few more options. Saad at Gold Coast, McIntosh at Richmond and Kelly at the Doggies have shown in the NAB they might average about 60 and make some money and I'd be happy with that. If we were comparing Nathan Brown to Taylor Hunt sitting at D6 I think I would take Taylor Hunt. Probably make the same money but Hunt can average 20 to 30 points more and will be an easier jump to a keeper when the time comes. I don't think you could take Nathan Brown in place of a forward or mid rookie.
I see it as FWD premium v DEF premium on the basis that if rookie KPP history is a guide then Hogan (on field in a 3 rookie set up) will only average 60.
Tex averaged 50 and Cameron 60 in their first years.
Then it's say Swan v Houli like I asked in the rate my team thread. Surely Swan wins and you break even on the defence rookie by pushing Hogan's 60 to the bench?
Tex averaged 50 and Cameron 60 in their first years.
Then it's say Swan v Houli like I asked in the rate my team thread. Surely Swan wins and you break even on the defence rookie by pushing Hogan's 60 to the bench?
I'm actually quite confident there will be more than 3 Def Rookies named in teams for Round 1.
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
I'm actually quite confident there will be more than 3 Def Rookies named in teams for Round 1.
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
Care to put the hat up for eating after the first three rounds?? (ie three backline rookies each getting a price rise...)
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I'm actually quite confident there will be more than 3 Def Rookies named in teams for Round 1.
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/games
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/games
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
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I'm actually quite confident there will be more than 3 Def Rookies named in teams for Round 1.
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
After 2 games in the NAB we have had:
32 Rookie priced players cheaper than N Brown play a total of 43 games, with an average TOG% of 64%/game
12 Players priced cheaper than $250k, including N Brown, play a total 23 games, with an average TOG% of 79%/game
If we don't get more than 3 out of that lot, I'll eat my hat!
Someone was looking for last seasons NAB Cup data a week or two ago,
2014 NAB Cup everyscore and TOG
2014 NAB Cup everyscore and TOG
i can tell right now that we will start the wrong rookies on the field like we always do
if only we automatically got the highest score because there is just to much luck involved for my liking especially with cash leagues and or overall
all it takes is for a 40 on field score and 90 bench score to completely ruin your season especially with all the effort and time we put into our teams
if only we automatically got the highest score because there is just to much luck involved for my liking especially with cash leagues and or overall
all it takes is for a 40 on field score and 90 bench score to completely ruin your season especially with all the effort and time we put into our teams
Not telling anyone anything they don't know but Cripps will be in and out of the team according to one of their players. Can't say who but 100% legit, i saw the text messages first hand and he pretty much said stay away. Form is everything with these guys anyway but something to keep in mind..probably doesn't make a diff for me, if named round 1, he's in for me.
I know there is 2 weeks to go but my biggest stress line right now is mid rookies. I'm going with 4 premo mids.
Yes there are a number of mid rookies but who should I pick that is going to have some Job S and avoid the vest. Happy to wear a vested rookie at 3/4 time but like you all I don't want a starting vested rookie ideally.
I will only take one 200k mid rookie, so it is down to Newton and Sheed for me.
After that who knows. Heeney, Anderson, Vandenberg and Boekhurst may start but are all starting vest candidates. I like Cockatoo, but starting a $200 k mid rules him out of my budget and I feel this is better spent towards getting the better premo on one of my lines.
So cutting through all the crap who do you think are the cheap (124k and under) mid rookies who will start on the ground?
Yes there are a number of mid rookies but who should I pick that is going to have some Job S and avoid the vest. Happy to wear a vested rookie at 3/4 time but like you all I don't want a starting vested rookie ideally.
I will only take one 200k mid rookie, so it is down to Newton and Sheed for me.
After that who knows. Heeney, Anderson, Vandenberg and Boekhurst may start but are all starting vest candidates. I like Cockatoo, but starting a $200 k mid rules him out of my budget and I feel this is better spent towards getting the better premo on one of my lines.
So cutting through all the crap who do you think are the cheap (124k and under) mid rookies who will start on the ground?
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From the x vs y thread but I thought my next question is more relevant to this thread.
Are the forward rookies stronger than the mid rookies this year??
Fwd:
Clark
Hogan
Salem
Karnesis
Lamb
Fwd/mid:
Steele
Caleb
Lambert
Krakour
Mid:
Newton
Cripps
Anderson
Ellis-Yolman
Vandenburg
Heeney
Amon
Boekhorst
Freeman (unlikely)
I just feel apart from Newton those forwards have better JS and prehaps scoring potential. Even if not would the strong forward options justify 1 or even two mid/fwds in the mids. Eg.) Martin/Lambert. Anyone beg to differ?
Edit: thinking of it now 2 may seem a bit excessive but still would like to hear people's thoughts.
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