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Brisbane Lions defender Justin Clarke has announced his retirement from AFL.
The 22-year-old backman made the decision after experiencing ongoing symptoms from a concussion suffered two months ago.
Clarke suffered a head knock at training on January 18, falling to the ground heavily after a pack mark contest and was ruled out of football indefinitely.
Lions medical staff have worked closely with concussion specialists in Melbourne to run a series of tests as Clarke's symptoms continued and he remained away from training.
Clarke travelled to Melbourne late last week for a final meeting with his specialist, before informing the playing group in person this morning of his decision to retire after 56 Senior games for the Lions.
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-03-31/clarkes-future
The 22-year-old backman made the decision after experiencing ongoing symptoms from a concussion suffered two months ago.
Clarke suffered a head knock at training on January 18, falling to the ground heavily after a pack mark contest and was ruled out of football indefinitely.
Lions medical staff have worked closely with concussion specialists in Melbourne to run a series of tests as Clarke's symptoms continued and he remained away from training.
Clarke travelled to Melbourne late last week for a final meeting with his specialist, before informing the playing group in person this morning of his decision to retire after 56 Senior games for the Lions.
http://www.lions.com.au/news/2016-03-31/clarkes-future
Posted this in trades but should post here as well...Robinson looks like he will be back round 3 but may go back to tagging.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MitchRobinson05/status/714756188047585280
https://mobile.twitter.com/MitchRobinson05/status/714756188047585280
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RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick has ruled out important pair Brett Deledio and Ivan Maric for Friday night's clash against Collingwood at the MCG.
And both could be looking at VFL returns in the coming weeks after extended periods out of full training.
Deledio was sidelined through the pre-season with a quadricep injury, while Maric was restricted going into round one by a back problem.
Hardwick also confirmed Shane Edwards would miss round two with a fractured hand.
And both could be looking at VFL returns in the coming weeks after extended periods out of full training.
Deledio was sidelined through the pre-season with a quadricep injury, while Maric was restricted going into round one by a back problem.
Hardwick also confirmed Shane Edwards would miss round two with a fractured hand.
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Wouldn't look into much re: Robinson tagging. I remember when Rockliff tagged Mitchell round 1, got suspended for a week, causing people to jump off. Then went on to average 130+? Besides, Robinson was on track for a team high score whilst "tagging" Priddis. If he's due back in Round 3, I can't understand why people would trade him. If one thing I've learned over the years, it's unnecessary sideways trading. You gain 1, possibly 2 weeks of difference in scores between Robinson's replacement and one of your bench forward rookies. I understand that Robinson is an ultra POD, and people are worried about him being a negative POD. But think ahead to round 16, when you're out of trades, and you have loophole rookies and others missing through LTIs. You'll be wishing you had the extra trade then #CaptainHindsight 
Hopefully he's poor tagging job on Priddis has proven he's better used elsewhere...like running free with the mids but a calf is a calf so he may end up just taking it easy in the forward pocket doing nothing...tagging Danger well .
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Wouldn't look into much re: Robinson tagging. I remember when Rockliff tagged Mitchell round 1, got suspended for a week, causing people to jump off. Then went on to average 130+? Besides, Robinson was on track for a team high score whilst "tagging" Priddis. If he's due back in Round 3, I can't understand why people would trade him. If one thing I've learned over the years, it's unnecessary sideways trading. You gain 1, possibly 2 weeks of difference in scores between Robinson's replacement and one of your bench forward rookies. I understand that Robinson is an ultra POD, and people are worried about him being a negative POD. But think ahead to round 16, when you're out of trades, and you have loophole rookies and others missing through LTIs. You'll be wishing you had the extra trade then #CaptainHindsight
Robbo wasn't tagging Priddis, he running with him, hence Robbo collected quite a few possessions for the amount of time he spent on the field, and was on track to be one of Brisbanes highest scorers in the game.
Tagging is a completely negative role. You sacrifice your own game, and even position in a contest, to stop the tagged player getting to the ball. You've all seen Crowley do it. For 90% of the time he had no interest in getting the ball himself, he was just interested in his opponent not getting it. Standing between him, and where he wants to be. Bumping him, scragging him, retarding him at every opportunity. He has only one goal. My opponent will not get the ball!
Run With is a completely competitive role. The Run With player has the attitude "you and me buddy, let's see who gets the ball this time!" 90% of the time he won't play himself out of position at a contest, just to stop his opponent getting the ball, he will strive for the best position possible, to get the ball himself. If and when the opportunity presents itself, he will run off that player and be creative, where as a hard tag is far less likely to do that. The Run With players first goal is "I want to win the ball in this contest, his second goal is "if I can't win it, I'm really going to give my opponent a hard time, and put him under pressure if he does get it". The Run With player can be negating, and sacrifice his own game, some of the time , the Tagger does it all of the time.
Being a run with player might, depending on the opponent and circumstances, restrict his SC score by 5 to 15 points/game. Being a tagger means you rarely score above 60 or 70.
I wouldn't be trading Robbo, if you are scared Run With roles will make his SC drop too much. He was on track to score something in the 90's and be Brisbane's leading possession getter, in what was probably not his best game, when he injured his calf. He had 23 possessions in 66% TOG, and at the end of the game, Bell was Brisbane's leading possession gatherer with 24. Taggers are never, EVER, leading possession getters, or anywhere near it. Further proof he wasn't tagging Priddis, but running with him.
I would, however, be considering trading Robbo, if Rockliff's claim earlier in the week, that Beams might be back in Round 4 or 5 is believed to be true. That will have a far greater affect on Robbo's SC than a run with role will.
Seems like Hallahan is on the LTI list.
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Darcy Mac downgrade hopefully !
I think Swan out makes J.Smith a likely elevation prospect. Hopefully, he's also another downgrade target for the likes of Oliver, Davis, Hewett, Gresham, Dunkley.
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Darcy Mac downgrade hopefully !
I think Swan out makes J.Smith a likely elevation prospect. Hopefully, he's also another downgrade target for the likes of Oliver, Davis, Hewett, Gresham, Dunkley.
Thanks Rowsus, another very informative post. I wasn't watching the game, but heard on Twitter that Robbo was tagging Priddis. I may have just misread that and they could have been saying he was running with Priddis, my mistake if it was that. He did still go quite well though I guess. Like you said, Beams could be coming back in round 4-5 which could drop his score down a bit. I am still completely 50/50 on him. If I do trade, I think it would be to a Wingard/S Gray type. Do you think it is worth a trade? I have all the right rookies except maybe Papley, but I'll see how he goes this week.
You probably didn't misread it, they probably said "tagging" but were wrong. It's a little bit like the difference between "possession" and "disposal". So many people say "Priddis had 40 possessions today, 15 kicks and 25 handballs!". We know what they mean, but chances are they are technically wrong! Priddis might have had 45 possessions, we don't know, but we do know from that statement he had 40 (legal) disposals! Just like people use possession, when they are really meaning disposal, people use tagging, when they really mean running with. Of course, there are sometimes they just don't know the difference!
As to trading Robbo, the whole lynch-pin of me picking him was Beams was out for a long period. As that is probably not the case now, I will trade him. If you are in a similar position, either of Wingard or S Gray sound like good replacements.
As to trading Robbo, the whole lynch-pin of me picking him was Beams was out for a long period. As that is probably not the case now, I will trade him. If you are in a similar position, either of Wingard or S Gray sound like good replacements.
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Agree with all of you, he had 200 gamer written all over him. Hopefully he recovers and can continue with his life. Hoping to do a PhD in supersonic research so he must be a very intelligent man.
Coincidentally, just watched 'Concussion' last night. Gives you perspective on how easy it is to overlook the damage that contact sport can cause to the human body - especially the brain - while we sit enthralled by the beauty of sport. We just weren't built to keep taking hits to the head. Clarke seems to have escaped from the clutches of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy aka Boxer's Dementia but I wonder how many past and present players are secretly struggling with CTE. Quite scary to imagine. Great movie, by the way!
Remember my mum not letting me play footy when I was younger coz she was scared I'd get smashed. I always say if she had let me play then, I'd be running around for Essendon with number 5 on my back with a Brownlow and Norm smith medal around my neck and a premiership cup to boot. Maybe I should be more thankful she didn't let me play hahaha
Coincidentally, just watched 'Concussion' last night. Gives you perspective on how easy it is to overlook the damage that contact sport can cause to the human body - especially the brain - while we sit enthralled by the beauty of sport. We just weren't built to keep taking hits to the head. Clarke seems to have escaped from the clutches of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy aka Boxer's Dementia but I wonder how many past and present players are secretly struggling with CTE. Quite scary to imagine. Great movie, by the way!
Remember my mum not letting me play footy when I was younger coz she was scared I'd get smashed. I always say if she had let me play then, I'd be running around for Essendon with number 5 on my back with a Brownlow and Norm smith medal around my neck and a premiership cup to boot. Maybe I should be more thankful she didn't let me play hahaha
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