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Hi Row, a random thought just crossed my mind.
Is it worth upgrading to Tippett at this stage? Really like his R/F link and he can cover for Goldy/Gawn if they both miss at some stage.
Thinking that is possible with North so far up the ladder and with Gawn maybe carrying some niggles.
I do realise Tippett's recent good scores have come against weaker ruck opposition and his next few involve Goldy, Currie/Nicholls, Mumford, Gawn so may struggle.
The alternative is that I grab Buddy this week with easier games against GC, GWS and Melbourne coming up before his bye.
Thanks mate.
 
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Hey Rowsus,
Wondering what your take is on Tom Mitchell?
Like many, I brought him in early and have since been either crying or screaming into my pillow at night.
Bar dealing with other injury issues, is it time to cut and run on him?

I know there is tagging and there is running with, not sure if he has been doing one or the other but none of it looks pretty.

Appreciate your insight.
Same question from me too rowsus, thanks :)
 
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Hey Row,

Last week I was pretty sure I'd be bringing in Hopper this week, however young Bailey Willams has popped up with a very nice DPP which when I thought more about it could be quite useful during the byes and potentially later in the season if further carnage ensues. Not to mention the 80k odd he'll have you to use elsewhere...

Would love to hear your thoughts on both.

Thanks mate.
 
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Hi Rowan,

my rucks are Sauce/Martin.

I am reading with interest the talk on this and other threads about ridding these rucks from various teams.

to date I have stuck with them mainly from wanting to stick to the plan of getting premos for my rookies then looking to upgrade but like many/most owners of these two can see how my team would be much better with the main men or at least one of them.

I have looked at some recent history for both Sauce and Martin and am now leaning towards keeping them at least for now and upgrading when no longer fielding rookies.

On paper for this week and assuming several ins I don't have any onfield rooks in defence but do have B Smith and Yeo underperforming.

Mids I have J Smith onfield with Oliver, Davis & Dunkley on the bench

Ruck bench is Grimley

Fwds Kerridge (thinking he will be kept), Petracca on field, Cox & BenKen on bench.

So apart from the rucks I am happy with how my team is progressing to a non rookie 22.

The history I have looked at is only until 2014 and only how many times they have tonned up.

Sauce, this year 1, 2015 13 (14 if you count the finals), 2014 18

Martin this year 3, 2015 11, 2014 10 from only 12 games.

I know you believe that reversion to the norm is what we should look to rather than hot/cold streaks.

This leads me to stick to my plan and reassess them when there are no onfield rookies, is this just stubbornness on my part and should I do something now as later may be too late?

I have resisted kneejerk trading Rocky, Gazza, Wells and the the D5 & 6 mentioned earlier.

Do you think they can revert to the norm or are they well over the hill and heading down to where they may be irretrievable?

If they are irretrievable and the big boys are out of reach would Blicavs, Tippett or Lycett be reasonable options or is that just one trade too many and would leave me wanting to upgrade them later on when I would likely have no trading potential?
 
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Hey Rowsus.

Thank you, once again, for giving up so much time to help us all, and especially me. Your approval/suggestions of my trade-ins have been absolutely stellar. To go through the list:

Round 5 ins (You approved): Dangerfield & Byrne Jones. Dangerfield avg 123.2, plus multiple C & VC. Byrne-Jones avg 72.2, including 2 tonnes as a rookie.

Round 8 ins (You suggested Shaw): Shaw and Petracca. Absolutely nailed it. Shaw averaging 173, and Petracca 83.

Round 9 ins (You suggested Docherty, who scored 135, but I picked Howe, which you approved of, who scored 104)

You are knocking it out of the park with your suggestions. Thanks.

Onto my question.

20 trades left, $43,900 banked.

(Would you say I'm using trades up too quickly. I've been using 2 trades for the past few weeks; should I ease up?)

My team:

*=Pending Selection

DEF: Shaw, Bartel, Yeo, Howe, Adams*, McDonald-Tipungwuti, (Byrne-Jones, Hartley)

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ablett*, Rockliff*, Priddis, Liberatore, Wells*, (Hewett, Smith, MacPherson)

RUC: Goldstein, Martin, (Wyatt)

FWD: Zorko, Hall*, Barlow*, Kerridge, Petracca, Cox, (Brown, Uebergang)

I'm going to try and go 1 up and 1 down. I reckon I'll have to keep MacPherson for the time being; as he won't generate enough $$$ to upgrade elsewhere, and I reckon I've got bigger priorities.

For my first trade, I'm considering DBJ-Bailey Williams. Now I'm not exactly sure on Williams' job security, but we're not really spoiled for choice, are we. I do like his DPP, and he should sit between D6 and D8. I really need a defender for structural purposes.

For my second trade, I was going to Brown to Brett Deledio; I think I can fit at least 1 more round 13 bye player in - but is it too late to be upgrading to Round 13 players? And do you have anything against Deledio? Or would you suggest Dusty Martin is the better option?

Alternatively, I could save around $150k, and pick Wingard instead, but I'm hoping that Deledio would be a 110 player, whereas Wingard might be 95, and I picked Howe as a speculative pick last week.

I'm waiting on Gray in the midfield, and Rance and possibly McVeigh in defence, so I don't think the time is right to upgrade in those areas. If I do miss Deledio and Wingard, I could go Dahlhaus at some point.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

It has been a tough old year in SC, particularly the last couple of weeks.

Despite all the carnage and dilemma confronting us on a weekly basis, I always find reading your wealth of wisdom through this thread a source of comfort and peace which enable me to get up and move forward with my team with the knowledge that I'm not alone.

On behalf of all of us here at SCS, I would like to say a BIG THANK YOU!

This place would not be the same without your dedication and voice of reason...
 
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With all due respect, we cannot expect Rowsus to pick our teams for us..
I just respect his opinion and input. Whilst I take responsibility for final decisions, it is always nice to have someone with his expertise casting a critical eye on the planning.
 
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I just respect his opinion and input. Whilst I take responsibility for final decisions, it is always nice to have someone with his expertise casting a critical eye on the planning.
Believe me, Rowsus has rewritten my team more than once! Just a general observation, nothing more.
 
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Hey Row,

Last week I was pretty sure I'd be bringing in Hopper this week, however young Bailey Willams has popped up with a very nice DPP which when I thought more about it could be quite useful during the byes and potentially later in the season if further carnage ensues. Not to mention the 80k odd he'll have you to use elsewhere...

Would love to hear your thoughts on both.

Thanks mate.
I'm wondering if Hopper with his high price is worth the cash he will generate? Or is he only worth picking up if you intend to keep him?
regards
 
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Hi Rowsus

Rucks..AAAAArgh. With Martin now being trialled as a forward, am I best trading him up to Nic Nat or picking Tippett who is $75K cheaper and appears on the rise? Tippett's R/F is a bonus as I have Grimley as R3 and Cox up forward till he is traded. My strategy says I should pick up Tippett as the cut-price bargain but my conservative nature says go for Nic Nait as the proven performer.

Any guidance gratefully accepted.
 

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Hey Rowsus,
Wondering what your take is on Tom Mitchell?
Like many, I brought him in early and have since been either crying or screaming into my pillow at night.
Bar dealing with other injury issues, is it time to cut and run on him?

I know there is tagging and there is running with, not sure if he has been doing one or the other but none of it looks pretty.

Appreciate your insight.
Same question from me too rowsus, thanks :)

Hey Spiny, Chasing,
he's a tricky/disappointing one, that's for sure. He was definitely playing a cross between a tag, and a run with role on S Mitchell in Rnd 9, and has played one or two other SC unfriendly run with games as well. I don't think he's a priority to fix, but if he keeps it up, he may become a late upgrade, as we finalise our teams.
 
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Hi Row, a random thought just crossed my mind.
Is it worth upgrading to Tippett at this stage? Really like his R/F link and he can cover for Goldy/Gawn if they both miss at some stage.
Thinking that is possible with North so far up the ladder and with Gawn maybe carrying some niggles.
I do realise Tippett's recent good scores have come against weaker ruck opposition and his next few involve Goldy, Currie/Nicholls, Mumford, Gawn so may struggle.
The alternative is that I grab Buddy this week with easier games against GC, GWS and Melbourne coming up before his bye.
Thanks mate.
^^^^ Exactly the same question for me
Hi MMM, Chasing,
it's certainly not too late to grab him, use or price-wise. His score against Hawthorn was pretty good, as Hawthorn don't usually give up Ruck scores like that. His score against Essendon was interesting. Only 14 Hitouts and 14 Disposals (+ 2 goals) for 102 seems "generous". I actually think it's a bit late to grab Buddy. To me, he's a start with him, or go without him prospect. His game Count and average drop in the second half of most seasons, so you've missed most of the good, and still have all of the bad to come. Keeping in mind, that everytime you use Tippett to cover R1/R2, you effectively add 2.5-3.0 points to his average, I would take Tippett over Buddy. If you think Tippett can average 92-93 or better for the rest of the season, then I think he's a good pick up. He should go close to those numbers too, I believe.
 

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Hmm i also dont have shaw. So is it worth paying the money for him?
The short answer is no. You'd want to be travelling exceptionally well to take him at his current price. He's priced at 127, and realistically, will probably only score at 110 - 113 from here, so you'd be paying massive overs. You want to buy your points as cheaply as you can, so I think you just have to go without him for now, and see if he's at a better Price later.
 

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Hey Row,

Last week I was pretty sure I'd be bringing in Hopper this week, however young Bailey Willams has popped up with a very nice DPP which when I thought more about it could be quite useful during the byes and potentially later in the season if further carnage ensues. Not to mention the 80k odd he'll have you to use elsewhere...

Would love to hear your thoughts on both.

Thanks mate.
Hey t.t6,
the thing to be careful with Williams is, that Adams, Boyd and Suckling are all back in 1 to 2 weeks. There is a strong chance he plays this week, but then has to wait for another injury before he plays again. He could be a bit of a trap trade. Hopper is expensive, but I think they will want to get some games into him, even if he plays a few, and gets a rest (even with the byes coming up), it seems to be the thing to do with Young Rookies. He's expensive, but barring injury, will very likely play more games than Williams, at least in the short term.
 
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Hey t.t6,
the thing to be careful with Williams is, that Adams, Boyd and Suckling are all back in 1 to 2 weeks. There is a strong chance he plays this week, but then has to wait for another injury before he plays again. He could be a bit of a trap trade. Hopper is expensive, but I think they will want to get some games into him, even if he plays a few, and gets a rest (even with the byes coming up), it seems to be the thing to do with Young Rookies. He's expensive, but barring injury, will very likely play more games than Williams, at least in the short term.
Thanks Row. I was thinking the same thing in terms of JS but thought another informed opinion would be handy. Like how Williams gone about it so far though.

Hi MMM, Chasing,
it's certainly not too late to grab him, use or price-wise. His score against Hawthorn was pretty good, as Hawthorn don't usually give up Ruck scores like that. His score against Essendon was interesting. Only 14 Hitouts and 14 Disposals (+ 2 goals) for 102 seems "generous". I actually think it's a bit late to grab Buddy. To me, he's a start with him, or go without him prospect. His game Count and average drop in the second half of most seasons, so you've missed most of the good, and still have all of the bad to come. Keeping in mind, that everytime you use Tippett to cover R1/R2, you effectively add 2.5-3.0 points to his average, I would take Tippett over Buddy. If you think Tippett can average 92-93 or better for the rest of the season, then I think he's a good pick up. He should go close to those numbers too, I believe.
I was pondering Tippett this morning as an F6/R3 floater (via Wyatt) at worst. At a 92-93 average with the potential to go large (due to the role he plays)...he could be a great pick later in the year. Might also be the last time he's under 500k.

I guess my question is, do you think he'd make a good F6? :p
 

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Rowsus, Callan Ward $34 for the Brownlow each way. Looks a great bet as the proven vote getter (and captain) off a team that looks top 4.
 
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