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G'day Rowsus (and others),

I'm sure this has probably been asked before over the years, but I would love your thoughts on team finalization, specifically the issue of potentially having more than 22 'keepers'.

I've currently got about $130k in the bank, 7 trades left, and 22 'keepers', although I'm sure a number would be considered unworthy of that status:

Docherty, Laird, Adams, Hibberd, Tuohy, Johannisen (Scharenberg, Ryan)
Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, Selwood, Bontempelli, Beams, Hannebery, Fyfe, Cripps (Barrett, Bolton, Cousins)
Grundy, Witts (Strnadica)
Yeo, Heeney, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Greene, Nankervis (Greenwood, Parsons)

I'm pretty happy with the FWD line, not many options I'd consider swapping any of those guys for.

I was keen on bringing in Lloyd at only $412k, which I can easily afford via Barrett, but this would mean having a 9th keeper in my MID line (from which Lloyd could swing DPP with Adams in DEF).

I suppose the question comes down to the following:

(a) upgrade Barrett to Lloyd (leaving 9th MID keeper on bench)
(b) upgrade weaker DEF keeper to Lloyd (Johannisen, Tuohy, etc.) and stick with 22 'keepers'
(c) ignore Lloyd and use cash to upgrade weaker MID keeper (i.e.: Fyfe, Cripps, etc.) to stronger 115+ MID keeper

Obviously this is a specific example, underlying the overarching question of:

Is it better to strengthen your 22nd keeper or add a 23rd keeper for backup?


Thanks in advance. Open to suggestions from all SCS users.
Tough question, you'd have to weigh up the potential loop advantage vs the flexibility to sideways trade a premium who might miss a week or two where others may be forced to hold. Lloyd at his price is hard to ingore, given he's averaged close to 100 if you remove his 5-min concussion game.
 
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Hi Rowsus,
I'm a LTRBFTP (Long Time Reader, But First Time Poster) who is just amazed at the time and effort you and your fellow moderators put into this site. I've been playing Supercoach for a few years, and am slowly getting better - ranked 2070 now after being 78,616 following round 1! A lot of this improvement is due to reading all the comments and advice on this forum.

My current team with 10 trades and no cash is:

Doc, Laird, Adams, Lloyd, Williams, Simpson (Stewart, Hibberd (Nth) )
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, J Selwood, Kennedy, Oliver, Beams, Fyfe, Priddis (SPP, Cousins, JDC)
Witts, Ryder (Cameron)
Yeo, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Lynch, Nank (Parsons, Greenwood)

Thinking of just going SPP to Ryan this week via Hibberd to get some cash, and even though I have no rookies on the field, the real problem will be going backwards in the rankings due to poorly performing premiums (Priddis, Fyfe), not quite super-premiums (Oliver, Beams), KPF's (Buddy, Lynch) and the need to upgrade Witts and Nank.

My question is, which of these problems do think is the most pressing to fix?
Thanks in advance
 
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Hi mate, do you think Newman to Lloyd is worth a trade?

Current plan has me going down to 4 trades with Nank as fwd/ruck cover, Ryan as defender cover and Myers/Cousins as mid cover so it would be 3 trades if I did Newman to Lloyd. Personally not sure it's worth it but Lloyd is a genuine bargain and I could be overestimating Newman.

Thanks legend!
 
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Hi mate, do you think Newman to Lloyd is worth a trade?

Current plan has me going down to 4 trades with Nank as fwd/ruck cover, Ryan as defender cover and Myers/Cousins as mid cover so it would be 3 trades if I did Newman to Lloyd. Personally not sure it's worth it but Lloyd is a genuine bargain and I could be overestimating Newman.

Thanks legend!
Others may view things differently but I reckon sacrificing your 26th trade in round 14 is not worth it despite the value Lloyd is presenting. Between now and Round 23 at least 2-3 of your Round 14 best 22 are likely to get injured or suspended for 2-3 weeks plus meaning you will either be copping rookie scores or possibly donuts.

My advice is plan to use your 4 trades in rounds 16, 18, 20 and 22 if they aren't required earlier for LTIs.
 
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Hi Row,

Simple question from me:
Zac Williams vs Roberton for my final defender?
Both are between 5-7% ownership.
Roberton seems the logical choice if we look at output thus far, though my pre-season prediction for Roberton should only stretch so far... right?
I keep viewing Roberton with the same lens as Yeo... Always promising big scores and never delivering (until now!)

Current def: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Lloyd, Rance, ____ (Perryman, Ryan)
 
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Hi Rowsus,

Really easy question.

What is the value of a trade this time of year?

To put it into context, I have 6 trades left, 142k in the bank and am ranked 900 odd.

I have Scott Selwood that I was planning on upgrading when his price topped out in a few weeks time, however his injury has come at an atrocious time. If he misses 2, then he'd need to play for at least 2 to 3 more matches and score well to get somewhere near where I was hoping him to be to use just 1 trade to upgrade my final mid spot. This would cost me around 150 points (30ppg) over 5 weeks having to play Greenwood instead of a M8.

That would leave me with 5 trades left and around 100k in the bank for injury fixes.

I could get the same result by trading Selwood to Luke Parker or Robbie Gray this week, but that feels a little compromised although I wouldn't lose too many points in the short term. Long term another issue.

My other possible option would be to downgrade Berry to Witherden, then upgrade Scooter to Zach Merrett then hang on for dear life with 4 trades left. I would gain points in the short term, but obviously can only cop 4 decent injuries before I join the exclusive No Trades Left Club.

So after all that, what's the value of hanging on to that 5th trade?

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Rowsus,

Hope you are well and thank you for the wonderful contribution you make to this site.

I am looking to complete my midfield this week and am looking closely at Luke Parker.

He has had a down year only averaging 93 and has dropped $135K from the start of the year however his last 2 have been 108 and 104. Looking at his stats he seems to have increased his kick to handball ratio and reduced his frees against.

Can you please provide your opinion as to whether he would be a good buy or should I look at Wines, Fyfe sort of players. (bad cash generation so need to spot the cheap premiums.)

Thank you in advance.

CC
CC,
sometimes we are stuck trying to find value picks, just so we can complete our teams.
If I had to trade in a Mid, at Fyfe's price or lower, I'd probably take Parker, but I'd also look at Priddis. They're well priced, for what their history says they can produce.
Good luck, I hope which ever way you jump, tirns out to be good value. :)
 

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G'day Rowsus (and others),

I'm sure this has probably been asked before over the years, but I would love your thoughts on team finalization, specifically the issue of potentially having more than 22 'keepers'.

I've currently got about $130k in the bank, 7 trades left, and 22 'keepers', although I'm sure a number would be considered unworthy of that status:

Docherty, Laird, Adams, Hibberd, Tuohy, Johannisen (Scharenberg, Ryan)
Dangerfield, T. Mitchell, Selwood, Bontempelli, Beams, Hannebery, Fyfe, Cripps (Barrett, Bolton, Cousins)
Grundy, Witts (Strnadica)
Yeo, Heeney, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Greene, Nankervis (Greenwood, Parsons)

I'm pretty happy with the FWD line, not many options I'd consider swapping any of those guys for.

I was keen on bringing in Lloyd at only $412k, which I can easily afford via Barrett, but this would mean having a 9th keeper in my MID line (from which Lloyd could swing DPP with Adams in DEF).

I suppose the question comes down to the following:

(a) upgrade Barrett to Lloyd (leaving 9th MID keeper on bench)
(b) upgrade weaker DEF keeper to Lloyd (Johannisen, Tuohy, etc.) and stick with 22 'keepers'
(c) ignore Lloyd and use cash to upgrade weaker MID keeper (i.e.: Fyfe, Cripps, etc.) to stronger 115+ MID keeper

Obviously this is a specific example, underlying the overarching question of:

Is it better to strengthen your 22nd keeper or add a 23rd keeper for backup?


Thanks in advance. Open to suggestions from all SCS users.
Tough question, you'd have to weigh up the potential loop advantage vs the flexibility to sideways trade a premium who might miss a week or two where others may be forced to hold. Lloyd at his price is hard to ingore, given he's averaged close to 100 if you remove his 5-min concussion game.
G'day TBO,
it's not a simple black and white situation, unfortunately. In general, if only your 22nd Prem was weak, you might look to strengthen your bench, and get some loopholing happening.
If that was my team, there's a few I'd be worried about, before I strengthened my bench.
Defs - You probably want 90 from your D6, and around 92-93 from your D5.
Tuohy has averaged 85 in his last 5, and JJ 66.
You might get away with Tuohy at D6, but that leaves your D5 as JJ leaking 26/week.
Mids - You probably want 110+ from M6 and above, at least 105 from M7 and 100 from M8.
Bontempelli 90 in his last 5, and Fyfe 92 in his last 5 are concerning. Their ownership at 34% and 46% gives some comfort, that there are many others in the same boat. Their history gives some hope they'll lift their output. While they're not top of your fix list, if they continue scoring in this manner, you are losing around 25/game on others M7/8's.
Rucks - The top 4 Rucks are averaging 100+, and you probably want (ideallly) 2 100+ Rucks, preferably one of them 105+. Grundy fits your 100 Ruck description, having produced that in the last 5 weeks. However, Witts has given up an average of 18/game to Goldy, and 35/game to Kreuzer over the last 5 weeks. While their ownership is lowish, it's a lot of points to give up!
Fwds - Forwards are really tough this year, but you should still be shooting for 94-95 from your F5, and at least 90 from F6. Dahlhaus has averaged around 84 in the past 5 weeks, and Nankervis has averaged around 82 in his last 6, and only 77 his last 3. Dahlhaus fits a similar description to Bont and Fyfe. Do you trust him to come good, at the risk of giving up 10/game to others F5. Nank is even more complicated, as he's obviously providing you Ruck cover. He's currently priced around $40-$50k higher than he probably will be in 5 weeks. A different F6 might provide you as much as 15/game higher than Nank. 15 x 10 = 150 points. Keeping in mind, it's not Nank that covers your missing Ruck, but your F7, if Nank is already on the field. That means you need to try and guesstimate, how often you'll need that cover from now to the end. If it's 2 or less, you may as well ditch Nank! The other option is to try and push him to F7.

You currently have 7 players, who in the last 5 weeks have put the writing on the wall, that they are leaking points. I'd be fixing at least 2, maybe 3, before strengthening my cover.

The other part of your problem is, you only really have Barrett, that is ready to moo. Your other options seem a few weeks off yet.

Looking at your 7 possible problem players, I think given your situation, you have to just ride out Fyfe, Bont, and Dahl. JJ is actually just about unfixable. The problem is, you don't want to put a lot of cash into fixing the problem, so you'd need to find a value pick. Potentially, the best value pick is JJ, so I think you are just stuck with him! Tuohy to Lloyd nets you $45,100, so I think that is 1 trade, I'd do this week.
That leaves you Witts and Nank, and and around $175k.
For your 2nd trade, I'd either do Witts to Goldy, or Nank to someone like Billings. It's certainly tougher to pick your last Forward, than your 2nd Ruck! You lose your ruck cover with Nank, but I think long term, you are better off dumping him.
Either one leaves you Barrett and cash to do some more trading next week.
 
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Hey Rowsus

Hope all is well.

I plan on completing my defence this week and I am agonizingly $200 short of my desired trade in of Shaw, which had forced me to think outside the box.

My 5 defence premos are Doch, Adams, Laird, Lloyd and JJ so as you can see I already have the "obvious" budget options in Lloyd and JJ.

I am thinking about grabbing Salem this week for my D6 spot. I guess I'd be backing him to have a second half of the year breakout like we see happen with alot of young players. He's looked pretty good the last 2 weeks when I've watched him.

He also saves me 50k on the other main option in my price range Jeremy Mcgovern. I figure that 50k saved should help ensure I can grab one of Gawn/Rocky when they bottom out in a few weeks too.

What are your thoughts on Salem from here? Valid option or should I be looking elsewhere?

Cheers
MrM
 

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Hi Rowsus,
I'm a LTRBFTP (Long Time Reader, But First Time Poster) who is just amazed at the time and effort you and your fellow moderators put into this site. I've been playing Supercoach for a few years, and am slowly getting better - ranked 2070 now after being 78,616 following round 1! A lot of this improvement is due to reading all the comments and advice on this forum.

My current team with 10 trades and no cash is:

Doc, Laird, Adams, Lloyd, Williams, Simpson (Stewart, Hibberd (Nth) )
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, J Selwood, Kennedy, Oliver, Beams, Fyfe, Priddis (SPP, Cousins, JDC)
Witts, Ryder (Cameron)
Yeo, Macrae, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Lynch, Nank (Parsons, Greenwood)

Thinking of just going SPP to Ryan this week via Hibberd to get some cash, and even though I have no rookies on the field, the real problem will be going backwards in the rankings due to poorly performing premiums (Priddis, Fyfe), not quite super-premiums (Oliver, Beams), KPF's (Buddy, Lynch) and the need to upgrade Witts and Nank.

My question is, which of these problems do think is the most pressing to fix?
Thanks in advance
Hi tc,
well done on getting to 2,000th, and having 10 trades left!
I think most people with Nank need to be looking to get him to F7, or out of their team.
The fact that you have Ryder makes it an even easier decision. If it was my team, I'd be going:
SPP to Ryan
Nank to Goldstein.
The other players you see as problems may turn out to be, but might fix themselves too, apart from Witts.
Good luck, I hope you keep climbing! :)
 

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Hi mate, do you think Newman to Lloyd is worth a trade?

Current plan has me going down to 4 trades with Nank as fwd/ruck cover, Ryan as defender cover and Myers/Cousins as mid cover so it would be 3 trades if I did Newman to Lloyd. Personally not sure it's worth it but Lloyd is a genuine bargain and I could be overestimating Newman.

Thanks legend!
Others may view things differently but I reckon sacrificing your 26th trade in round 14 is not worth it despite the value Lloyd is presenting. Between now and Round 23 at least 2-3 of your Round 14 best 22 are likely to get injured or suspended for 2-3 weeks plus meaning you will either be copping rookie scores or possibly donuts.

My advice is plan to use your 4 trades in rounds 16, 18, 20 and 22 if they aren't required earlier for LTIs.
Hi mate,
when your down to 4 trades this far out, you need to make everyone of them count, and be meaningful. You certainly don't have any luxury trades. There's not enough perceived reward in Newman to Lloyd, compared the possible problems that might arise from here. I think you need to stretch them a little from here, unless there is an obvious decent improvement you can achieve. Newman to Lloyd might net you 10, possibly 15, but I'd want 15 to be the downside to seriously consider the trade, with only 4 left, not the upside.
 

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Hi Row,

Simple question from me:
Zac Williams vs Roberton for my final defender?
Both are between 5-7% ownership.
Roberton seems the logical choice if we look at output thus far, though my pre-season prediction for Roberton should only stretch so far... right?
I keep viewing Roberton with the same lens as Yeo... Always promising big scores and never delivering (until now!)

Current def: Docherty, Laird, Adams, Lloyd, Rance, ____ (Perryman, Ryan)
Hi MCM,
Roberton
Wins - 93, 126, 149, 96, 84, 119 - 6/111.8
Losses - 70, 105, 116, 119, 89, 83 - 6/97.0

Williams
Wins - 84, 109, 90, 96, 120, 92, 72, 109, 145 - 9/101.9
Losses - 92, 90, 63 - 3/81.7

Roberton's losing average nearly matches Williams winning average. I'd take Roberton.
 

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Hi Rowsus,

Really easy question.

What is the value of a trade this time of year?

To put it into context, I have 6 trades left, 142k in the bank and am ranked 900 odd.

I have Scott Selwood that I was planning on upgrading when his price topped out in a few weeks time, however his injury has come at an atrocious time. If he misses 2, then he'd need to play for at least 2 to 3 more matches and score well to get somewhere near where I was hoping him to be to use just 1 trade to upgrade my final mid spot. This would cost me around 150 points (30ppg) over 5 weeks having to play Greenwood instead of a M8.

That would leave me with 5 trades left and around 100k in the bank for injury fixes.

I could get the same result by trading Selwood to Luke Parker or Robbie Gray this week, but that feels a little compromised although I wouldn't lose too many points in the short term. Long term another issue.

My other possible option would be to downgrade Berry to Witherden, then upgrade Scooter to Zach Merrett then hang on for dear life with 4 trades left. I would gain points in the short term, but obviously can only cop 4 decent injuries before I join the exclusive No Trades Left Club.

So after all that, what's the value of hanging on to that 5th trade?

Cheers
Hi Santoz,
given your situation, I'd want at least 200 points/trade. People with more, and a completed or near completed team, can devalue that a little.
I guess it depends on your goal for the season.
If it's League glory, I probably wouldn't trade, unless you need to win this match up.
If it's risk it all, try and get as high as I can. Go the Merrett option.
If it's lets play a little safe, but see how high I can finish, then either no trade, or Parker.
Good luck :)
 

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Hey Rowsus

Hope all is well.

I plan on completing my defence this week and I am agonizingly $200 short of my desired trade in of Shaw, which had forced me to think outside the box.

My 5 defence premos are Doch, Adams, Laird, Lloyd and JJ so as you can see I already have the "obvious" budget options in Lloyd and JJ.

I am thinking about grabbing Salem this week for my D6 spot. I guess I'd be backing him to have a second half of the year breakout like we see happen with alot of young players. He's looked pretty good the last 2 weeks when I've watched him.

He also saves me 50k on the other main option in my price range Jeremy Mcgovern. I figure that 50k saved should help ensure I can grab one of Gawn/Rocky when they bottom out in a few weeks too.

What are your thoughts on Salem from here? Valid option or should I be looking elsewhere?

Cheers
MrM
Hey MrM,
Salem is an option, for those looking for a value D6, but I think I'd be more inclined to try T McDonald. When we get a Ruck back, which should be this week, he should be playing a more settled role. He certainly finished last season well (8/108). If you really want to take a risk at some value, then maybe even J Martin (but only if you really need to take some value risks!)
 
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Hi Santoz,
given your situation, I'd want at least 200 points/trade. People with more, and a completed or near completed team, can devalue that a little.
I guess it depends on your goal for the season.
If it's League glory, I probably wouldn't trade, unless you need to win this match up.
If it's risk it all, try and get as high as I can. Go the Merrett option.
If it's lets play a little safe, but see how high I can finish, then either no trade, or Parker.
Good luck :)
Thanks heaps for the advice.

I can limp home league wise from here as I'm well clear on top, that's no troubles.

I like the risk it all to finish as high as I can option.

That and I'm going to take the kids to watch Essendon vs Brisbane in a few weeks, so I wouldn't mind cheering on Zerrett in the flesh.

Good luck for the rest of the year. Your finished team is a ripper.
 
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trade 1 Stewart > Lloyd is locked either way.

Trade 2 I have two options.

Option 1.
Barrett > Shuey (Shuey has a rep of coming home strong and 6/10 remaining games are in Perth for WC).
7 trades, 2k remaining.
(need to upgrade Scott Selwood in coming weeks to finish midfield).

Option 2.
Myers > L Ryan

Gives me $252k to upgrade Barrett next week to any Mid and stil have 100k remaining to try and upgrade S Selwood. It means I would have to play Greenwood on field.

Team (Before trades)

Laird, Adams, Roberton, Shaw, Hibberd, Stewart (Perryman, Mcniece)
Danger, Titchell, J Selwood, Pendles, Handonberry, Treloar, Barrett, Greenwood, (S Selwood, Cousins, Myers)
Martin, Ryder, Strandick
Yeo, Dahl, Macrae, Franklin, Heeney, Higgins (Bolton, Parsons)
 
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G'day TBO,
it's not a simple black and white situation, unfortunately. In general, if only your 22nd Prem was weak, you might look to strengthen your bench, and get some loopholing happening.
If that was my team, there's a few I'd be worried about, before I strengthened my bench.
Defs - You probably want 90 from your D6, and around 92-93 from your D5.
Tuohy has averaged 85 in his last 5, and JJ 66.
You might get away with Tuohy at D6, but that leaves your D5 as JJ leaking 26/week.
Mids - You probably want 110+ from M6 and above, at least 105 from M7 and 100 from M8.
Bontempelli 90 in his last 5, and Fyfe 92 in his last 5 are concerning. Their ownership at 34% and 46% gives some comfort, that there are many others in the same boat. Their history gives some hope they'll lift their output. While they're not top of your fix list, if they continue scoring in this manner, you are losing around 25/game on others M7/8's.
Rucks - The top 4 Rucks are averaging 100+, and you probably want (ideallly) 2 100+ Rucks, preferably one of them 105+. Grundy fits your 100 Ruck description, having produced that in the last 5 weeks. However, Witts has given up an average of 18/game to Goldy, and 35/game to Kreuzer over the last 5 weeks. While their ownership is lowish, it's a lot of points to give up!
Fwds - Forwards are really tough this year, but you should still be shooting for 94-95 from your F5, and at least 90 from F6. Dahlhaus has averaged around 84 in the past 5 weeks, and Nankervis has averaged around 82 in his last 6, and only 77 his last 3. Dahlhaus fits a similar description to Bont and Fyfe. Do you trust him to come good, at the risk of giving up 10/game to others F5. Nank is even more complicated, as he's obviously providing you Ruck cover. He's currently priced around $40-$50k higher than he probably will be in 5 weeks. A different F6 might provide you as much as 15/game higher than Nank. 15 x 10 = 150 points. Keeping in mind, it's not Nank that covers your missing Ruck, but your F7, if Nank is already on the field. That means you need to try and guesstimate, how often you'll need that cover from now to the end. If it's 2 or less, you may as well ditch Nank! The other option is to try and push him to F7.

You currently have 7 players, who in the last 5 weeks have put the writing on the wall, that they are leaking points. I'd be fixing at least 2, maybe 3, before strengthening my cover.

The other part of your problem is, you only really have Barrett, that is ready to moo. Your other options seem a few weeks off yet.

Looking at your 7 possible problem players, I think given your situation, you have to just ride out Fyfe, Bont, and Dahl. JJ is actually just about unfixable. The problem is, you don't want to put a lot of cash into fixing the problem, so you'd need to find a value pick. Potentially, the best value pick is JJ, so I think you are just stuck with him! Tuohy to Lloyd nets you $45,100, so I think that is 1 trade, I'd do this week.
That leaves you Witts and Nank, and and around $175k.
For your 2nd trade, I'd either do Witts to Goldy, or Nank to someone like Billings. It's certainly tougher to pick your last Forward, than your 2nd Ruck! You lose your ruck cover with Nank, but I think long term, you are better off dumping him.
Either one leaves you Barrett and cash to do some more trading next week.
Rowsus,

Appreciate the feedback (as well as from other SCS members). Will definitely take your suggestions into consideration.
 
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Thanks Rowsus - was thinking along those lines, but also tossing up Mummy and Stef as alternatives. Wish I'd gone Nank to Kruezer in Rd 12 like you did.
Hopefully Witts to Gawn in a couple of weeks, and as you said hope the others sort themselves out!
 

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Hi Rowsus,

Before making trades (I have 9 left with $17,300 in the bank), my team currently stands as this:

D: Docherty, Adams, Laird, Lloyd, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Witherden)
M: Dangerfield, Martin, Selwood, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Fyfe, Treloar, Priddis (Lloyd, Cousins, Barrett)
R: Grundy, Nankervis (Strnadica)
F: Macrae, Yeo, Dahlhaus, Franklin, Lynch, Greenwood (Bolton, Eddy)

I am locking in Barrett to Luke Ryan this week, which gives me $250k to spend. However I'm torn with my second trade - whether to cut Priddis to Ablett/Zorko/Merrett, or 'complete' my team with Stewart to Heeney/Greene. Obviously a fully upgraded team is ideal but any help with this problem would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hi Rowsus,

Nice work over the byes - inspiring stuff :) I had a bit of an 'accident' and lost 400+ points Rd 12 - good thing SC is only a game :rolleyes: Bit of repair work to do so feeling aggressive.

My backline is Doch, Laird, Lloyd, Hibberd, Shaw, Tuohy, Newman and Scharenberg with the NM Hibberd in the mids to loop with Lloyd. I'm thinking of trading one of Tuohy, Newman or Shaw along with Scooter for Neale and Ryan. Which of the three would you trade - I'm thinking Tuohy?

Alternatively hold onto Scooter and swing Lloyd to the mids and wait for Scooter to come back? 7 trades left and nothing in the bank.

Cheers...Bones
 
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