Position Rucks Discussion
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2014:
Sam Jacobs - $460,200 - 22 games at 115.36
Aaron Sandilands - $310,700 - 21 games at 108.05
(Sandi to Stefan Martin after rd 12 would have netted you $331,400 and gave you 22 games at 115.18)
2015:
Todd Goldstein - $574,400 - 21 games at 128.81
Mark Blicavs - $371,900 - 21 games at 104.29
2016:
Max Gawn - $550,800 - 22 games at 118.55
Brodie Grundy - $488,800 - 21 games at 95.67
(Grundy missed rd 1 so difficult to start with him)
2017:
Matthew Kruezer - $398,000 - 21 games at 109.81
Patrick Ryder - $418,000 - 21 games at 103.05
2018:
Brodie Grundy - $534,700 - 22 games at 130.45
Max Gawn - $503,700 - 22 games at 127.50
Sam Jacobs - $460,200 - 22 games at 115.36
Aaron Sandilands - $310,700 - 21 games at 108.05
(Sandi to Stefan Martin after rd 12 would have netted you $331,400 and gave you 22 games at 115.18)
2015:
Todd Goldstein - $574,400 - 21 games at 128.81
Mark Blicavs - $371,900 - 21 games at 104.29
2016:
Max Gawn - $550,800 - 22 games at 118.55
Brodie Grundy - $488,800 - 21 games at 95.67
(Grundy missed rd 1 so difficult to start with him)
2017:
Matthew Kruezer - $398,000 - 21 games at 109.81
Patrick Ryder - $418,000 - 21 games at 103.05
2018:
Brodie Grundy - $534,700 - 22 games at 130.45
Max Gawn - $503,700 - 22 games at 127.50
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My take on it..
There are a lot of people unsure about many players and their own knowledge/opinions of said players so, they come here, to this widely recognised information/discussion hub in order to convince themselves or be convinced either for or against said player/players.
That is after all what a fantasy sports forum is for, discussion, if a player/specific topic has already being discussed in depth with nothing new to add, please be so kind as to direct that person to the relevant area where the information can be acquired.
If you feel things are getting a little repetitive, feel free to take a break and have a kit-kat!
There are a lot of people unsure about many players and their own knowledge/opinions of said players so, they come here, to this widely recognised information/discussion hub in order to convince themselves or be convinced either for or against said player/players.
That is after all what a fantasy sports forum is for, discussion, if a player/specific topic has already being discussed in depth with nothing new to add, please be so kind as to direct that person to the relevant area where the information can be acquired.
If you feel things are getting a little repetitive, feel free to take a break and have a kit-kat!
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Who are these ''negative'' posters you speak of ? Iv found nearly no negative vibes on here over the years myself.
Sometimes we all sink to many hours into SC research and all that staring at a computer screen for hours on end day after day fries our brains and makes us a little grouchy/irritable, that's when it's time for all/any of us to sit back take a break and reload for the next sess.
Pretty stock standard, common sense advice. I'm sure Tails will see the sense in that and be back on here in no time!
Iv had to do this many a' time over the years while trawling through the pain that is each BF preseason thread.
Sometimes we all sink to many hours into SC research and all that staring at a computer screen for hours on end day after day fries our brains and makes us a little grouchy/irritable, that's when it's time for all/any of us to sit back take a break and reload for the next sess.
Pretty stock standard, common sense advice. I'm sure Tails will see the sense in that and be back on here in no time!
Iv had to do this many a' time over the years while trawling through the pain that is each BF preseason thread.
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Just a slow news week with not much new info flow. Once we hit JLT there will be plenty of new info to consume and analyse and I presume there will be a few dormant members who will rise from their summer SC slumber. Hopefully we will also hear from a few of the Mods as their views and insights are always greatly valued and welcomed 
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From SEN
GAWN BREAKS DOWN HOW RUCK PARTNERSHIP WITH PREUSS COULD WORK
Melbourne star ruckman Max Gawn is hoping he gets the chance to play alongside Braydon Preuss in Round 1.
The Demons brought Preuss to the club from North Melbourne in the trade period and last year’s All-Australian ruckman is excited to work out the new dynamic.
“He’s very strong and quite tall as well, he’s almost my size. His stuff around the ball-ups and boundary throw-ins is almost unbeatable,” Gawn told SEN’s Whateley.
“It’s more about how we can gel together. On the weekend we tried me playing my normal role and Braydon playing as a forward and that seemed to work.
“Over the next few weeks I’m sure we’ll try the 50-50, or even me playing forward. I’m not sure exactly how it’s going to work.
“Tom McDonald and Sam Weideman have also both shown that they can ruck so I wouldn’t want to be sitting on the match selection panel come Round 1.
“It does help that (Round 1 opponent) Port (Adelaide) do play two rucks so hopefully we can get me and Preuss out there.”
Gawn said he spent close to 90 per cent of game time in the ruck last season, but expects that number to drop if Preuss does play.
“If Preuss played, I’m sure even if I get my same role it would drop back to 80 per cent, it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out,” he said.
“It was good that he kicked two goals and had four shots on goal. He looks like he could play full forward.”
Gawn admitted playing forward isn’t something he’s particularly keen on himself.
“I’m not the biggest fan of the forward line, when I was coming into the side, Mark Jamar was in the ruck and I was sort of playing the second fiddle at full-forward and had some good games and had some bad games, it’s a challenging position to play,” he said.
“Not many players around the competition have nailed down the second ruck/forward role. Josh Jenkins is one of the few who have and it works for him and there’s a couple of others as well, but it’s a very hard role to nail.”
The AFL changed a key ruck rule over the off-season, allowing players to grab the ball out of the ruck without fear of giving away a holding the ball free-kick for doing so.
This could give an advantage to teams playing two ruckmen, as Melbourne could, given a big secondary option could use this rule and take control against a smaller backup.
GAWN BREAKS DOWN HOW RUCK PARTNERSHIP WITH PREUSS COULD WORK
Melbourne star ruckman Max Gawn is hoping he gets the chance to play alongside Braydon Preuss in Round 1.
The Demons brought Preuss to the club from North Melbourne in the trade period and last year’s All-Australian ruckman is excited to work out the new dynamic.
“He’s very strong and quite tall as well, he’s almost my size. His stuff around the ball-ups and boundary throw-ins is almost unbeatable,” Gawn told SEN’s Whateley.
“It’s more about how we can gel together. On the weekend we tried me playing my normal role and Braydon playing as a forward and that seemed to work.
“Over the next few weeks I’m sure we’ll try the 50-50, or even me playing forward. I’m not sure exactly how it’s going to work.
“Tom McDonald and Sam Weideman have also both shown that they can ruck so I wouldn’t want to be sitting on the match selection panel come Round 1.
“It does help that (Round 1 opponent) Port (Adelaide) do play two rucks so hopefully we can get me and Preuss out there.”
Gawn said he spent close to 90 per cent of game time in the ruck last season, but expects that number to drop if Preuss does play.
“If Preuss played, I’m sure even if I get my same role it would drop back to 80 per cent, it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out,” he said.
“It was good that he kicked two goals and had four shots on goal. He looks like he could play full forward.”
Gawn admitted playing forward isn’t something he’s particularly keen on himself.
“I’m not the biggest fan of the forward line, when I was coming into the side, Mark Jamar was in the ruck and I was sort of playing the second fiddle at full-forward and had some good games and had some bad games, it’s a challenging position to play,” he said.
“Not many players around the competition have nailed down the second ruck/forward role. Josh Jenkins is one of the few who have and it works for him and there’s a couple of others as well, but it’s a very hard role to nail.”
The AFL changed a key ruck rule over the off-season, allowing players to grab the ball out of the ruck without fear of giving away a holding the ball free-kick for doing so.
This could give an advantage to teams playing two ruckmen, as Melbourne could, given a big secondary option could use this rule and take control against a smaller backup.
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If he drops back 10% in output it will still mean an average of roughly 115. Is that enough to justify starting him and paying overs?
Would it be a waste starting Goldstein (Who averaged 110 in his last 14); and waiting to see how Gawn and Preuss gel, then attempt to sideways trade to Gawn if he is looking like doing what he did last year?
Hoping that Mr Fort performs well in the JLT... mature age rookie, should hopefully be in Geelongs best 22
Would it be a waste starting Goldstein (Who averaged 110 in his last 14); and waiting to see how Gawn and Preuss gel, then attempt to sideways trade to Gawn if he is looking like doing what he did last year?
Hoping that Mr Fort performs well in the JLT... mature age rookie, should hopefully be in Geelongs best 22
Have been set on Grundy and Gawn all summer, ideally would still like them both. But have recently taken a look at Jarrod Witts as a R2 instead of Gawn.
Here’s my reasoning: good personal matchups on paper, added responsibility as captain maybe lifts his game and his age of 26 and games played of 80 is setting up for a perfect ruck formula to breakout. He had 5/9 105+ scores before his bye last year while the Suns were half healthy. Also allows me to upgrade elsewhere.
RD1- vs St.Kilda (A) (vs Lewis Pierce)
RD2- vs Fremantle (H) (vs Sandi*)
RD3- vs Bulldogs (A) (vs Tim English)
RD4- vs Carlton (H) (vs Kreuzer*)
RD5- vs Adelaide (A) (vs Jacobs/O’Brien)
RD6- vs Brisbane (H) (vs Stef/Archie)
RD7- vs West Coast (A) (vs Hickey/Vardy)
Quite a good looking draw and with injury concerns around Kreuzer and Sandi it could get easier. Plus barring West Coast and Adelaide away games it doesn’t look like an awful draw. Think he can manage a 100 average for 7 weeks to then upgrade to the clear best R2 option in Gawn at a hopefully reduced price or a Goldy type back to his best.
With this I definitely wouldn’t hold him any longer as I can see the Suns keeping their heads above water for a little bit but think like a few other clubs the 2nd half of the season is gong to be a rough one.
Thoughts?
Here’s my reasoning: good personal matchups on paper, added responsibility as captain maybe lifts his game and his age of 26 and games played of 80 is setting up for a perfect ruck formula to breakout. He had 5/9 105+ scores before his bye last year while the Suns were half healthy. Also allows me to upgrade elsewhere.
RD1- vs St.Kilda (A) (vs Lewis Pierce)
RD2- vs Fremantle (H) (vs Sandi*)
RD3- vs Bulldogs (A) (vs Tim English)
RD4- vs Carlton (H) (vs Kreuzer*)
RD5- vs Adelaide (A) (vs Jacobs/O’Brien)
RD6- vs Brisbane (H) (vs Stef/Archie)
RD7- vs West Coast (A) (vs Hickey/Vardy)
Quite a good looking draw and with injury concerns around Kreuzer and Sandi it could get easier. Plus barring West Coast and Adelaide away games it doesn’t look like an awful draw. Think he can manage a 100 average for 7 weeks to then upgrade to the clear best R2 option in Gawn at a hopefully reduced price or a Goldy type back to his best.
With this I definitely wouldn’t hold him any longer as I can see the Suns keeping their heads above water for a little bit but think like a few other clubs the 2nd half of the season is gong to be a rough one.
Thoughts?
