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Greatly appreciate some advice on the following conundrum on which is the better combination

A. L Whitfield (D2), D Roberton (D4) and T Liberatore (M6)
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B. L Whitfield (D2), J Darling (F3) and rookie
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C. H Andrews (D2), D Mundy (F3), rookie

Current premiums/mid pricers above the Roberton and Libba range are:
R Laird, Z Williams, N Fyfe, J Kelly, L Neale, Z Merrett, R Sloane, B Grundy, T Goldstein, P Dangerfield, I Heeney and T Greene.

D Roberton and T Liberatore will likely be utilised as quick avenues to K Simpson/H Andrews and C Oliver/P Cripps.

Hard to split B and C as B looks like the most upside but C should be the most consistent. I really want to give H Andrews a 2nd chance as he only survived 1/2 a quarter in my side last season but it means I would have to forego L Whitfield.
Option B for me mate. I'm pretty big on Darling, and have concerns with Roberton's health.
 

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Steele vs Sloane Ranger
I'd slightly lean towards Sloane.

J Steele:
Pre Bye Averages:
Disposals: 20.75
Tackles: 6
Contested Possessions: 8.92
Time on Ground%: 75.33%
Pre Bye Avg: 81.42 from 12(11/12 below 100)

Post Bye Averages:
Disposals: 27.11
Tackles: 7.56
Contested Possessions: 12
Time on Ground%: 84.67%
Post Bye Avg: 111.78 from 9 (3/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)

R Sloane:
Historically speaking Sloane should be the main beneficiary of Adelaide's favourable start.

Avg at Adelaide Oval: 119 from 43 (10/43 below 100, 23/43 120+)
2014: 115.92 from 12
2015: 119.25 from 8
2016: 119.91 from 11
2017: 121.08 from 12

Adelaide Oval Wins: 124.16 from 31(7/31 below 100, 19/31 120+)
2014: 123.5 from 6
2015: 128 from 6
2016: 117.7 from 10
2017: 129.22 from 10

Adelaide Oval Losses: 105.67 from 12 (3/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
2014: 108.33 from 6
2015: 93 from 2
2016: 142 from 1
2017: 96.67 from 3

Wins: 116.27 from 79 (25/79 below 100, 36/79 120+)
2012: 112.06 from 16
2013: 114.9 from 10
2014: 125.82 from 11
2015: 116.82 from 11
2016: 110.94 from 16
2017: 119.33 from 15

Losses: 97.02 from 43 (22/43 below 100, 6/43 120+)
2012: 87 from 5
2013: 99.82 from 11
2014: 103.73 from 11
2015: 80.6 from 5
2016: 101.2 from 5
2017: 98.17 from 6

2018:
Adelaide Oval Avg: 100.43 from 7 (3/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Adelaide Oval Wins Avg: 115.6 from 5 (1/5 below 100, 2/5 120+)
Adelaide Oval Losses Avg: 62.5 from 2
Wins Avg: 105.71 from 7 (2/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Losses Avg: 83.8 from 5 (4/5 below 100)

Until 2018 he had recorded 6 consecutive seasons averaging 110+ in wins and 3 consecutive seasons averaging 119+ at the Adelaide Oval as well as 6 consecutive seasons recording a season avg of 105+.

2018 was the 5th consecutive season Sloane averaged 115+ in Adelaide Oval Wins.
 
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J Steele:
Pre Bye Averages:
Disposals: 20.75
Tackles: 6
Contested Possessions: 8.92
Time on Ground%: 75.33%
Pre Bye Avg: 81.42 from 12(11/12 below 100)

Post Bye Averages:
Disposals: 27.11
Tackles: 7.56
Contested Possessions: 12
Time on Ground%: 84.67%
Post Bye Avg: 111.78 from 9 (3/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)

R Sloane:
Historically speaking Sloane should be the main beneficiary of Adelaide's favourable start.

Avg at Adelaide Oval: 119 from 43 (10/43 below 100, 23/43 120+)
2014: 115.92 from 12
2015: 119.25 from 8
2016: 119.91 from 11
2017: 121.08 from 12

Adelaide Oval Wins: 124.16 from 31(7/31 below 100, 19/31 120+)
2014: 123.5 from 6
2015: 128 from 6
2016: 117.7 from 10
2017: 129.22 from 10

Adelaide Oval Losses: 105.67 from 12 (3/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
2014: 108.33 from 6
2015: 93 from 2
2016: 142 from 1
2017: 96.67 from 3

Wins: 116.27 from 79 (25/79 below 100, 36/79 120+)
2012: 112.06 from 16
2013: 114.9 from 10
2014: 125.82 from 11
2015: 116.82 from 11
2016: 110.94 from 16
2017: 119.33 from 15

Losses: 97.02 from 43 (22/43 below 100, 6/43 120+)
2012: 87 from 5
2013: 99.82 from 11
2014: 103.73 from 11
2015: 80.6 from 5
2016: 101.2 from 5
2017: 98.17 from 6

2018:
Adelaide Oval Avg: 100.43 from 7 (3/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Adelaide Oval Wins Avg: 115.6 from 5 (1/5 below 100, 2/5 120+)
Adelaide Oval Losses Avg: 62.5 from 2
Wins Avg: 105.71 from 7 (2/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Losses Avg: 83.8 from 5 (4/5 below 100)

Until 2018 he had recorded 6 consecutive seasons averaging 110+ in wins and 3 consecutive seasons averaging 119+ at the Adelaide Oval as well as 6 consecutive seasons recording a season avg of 105+.

2018 was the 5th consecutive season Sloane averaged 115+ in Adelaide Oval Wins.
Awesome stats. This is one of my XYs as well and I’m currently on sloane over Steele/Brayshaw
 
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J Steele:
Pre Bye Averages:
Disposals: 20.75
Tackles: 6
Contested Possessions: 8.92
Time on Ground%: 75.33%
Pre Bye Avg: 81.42 from 12(11/12 below 100)

Post Bye Averages:
Disposals: 27.11
Tackles: 7.56
Contested Possessions: 12
Time on Ground%: 84.67%
Post Bye Avg: 111.78 from 9 (3/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)

R Sloane:
Historically speaking Sloane should be the main beneficiary of Adelaide's favourable start.

Avg at Adelaide Oval: 119 from 43 (10/43 below 100, 23/43 120+)
2014: 115.92 from 12
2015: 119.25 from 8
2016: 119.91 from 11
2017: 121.08 from 12

Adelaide Oval Wins: 124.16 from 31(7/31 below 100, 19/31 120+)
2014: 123.5 from 6
2015: 128 from 6
2016: 117.7 from 10
2017: 129.22 from 10

Adelaide Oval Losses: 105.67 from 12 (3/12 below 100, 3/12 120+)
2014: 108.33 from 6
2015: 93 from 2
2016: 142 from 1
2017: 96.67 from 3

Wins: 116.27 from 79 (25/79 below 100, 36/79 120+)
2012: 112.06 from 16
2013: 114.9 from 10
2014: 125.82 from 11
2015: 116.82 from 11
2016: 110.94 from 16
2017: 119.33 from 15

Losses: 97.02 from 43 (22/43 below 100, 6/43 120+)
2012: 87 from 5
2013: 99.82 from 11
2014: 103.73 from 11
2015: 80.6 from 5
2016: 101.2 from 5
2017: 98.17 from 6

2018:
Adelaide Oval Avg: 100.43 from 7 (3/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Adelaide Oval Wins Avg: 115.6 from 5 (1/5 below 100, 2/5 120+)
Adelaide Oval Losses Avg: 62.5 from 2
Wins Avg: 105.71 from 7 (2/7 below 100, 2/7 120+)
Losses Avg: 83.8 from 5 (4/5 below 100)

Until 2018 he had recorded 6 consecutive seasons averaging 110+ in wins and 3 consecutive seasons averaging 119+ at the Adelaide Oval as well as 6 consecutive seasons recording a season avg of 105+.

2018 was the 5th consecutive season Sloane averaged 115+ in Adelaide Oval Wins.
So you’re saying they are both great picks? ;)


What about Sloane vs M.Crouch then?
 

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Awesome stats. This is one of my XYs as well and I’m currently on sloane over Steele/Brayshaw
All 3 are great options but Sloane has rarely left my M5 spot since SC opened. Whilst the concerns regarding his penchant not to sufficiently deal with a tag are evident he has always been devoid of scores around the 90-110 range and his ceiling will alleviate the concerns associated with his potential poor scores.

With the fixture primarily suiting him out of the Crows premiums he should be able to return to the 105+ range which is a great selection at his price range and could possibly push 110+ if he gets off to a flyer.
 

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All 3 are great options but Sloane has rarely left my M5 spot since SC opened. Whilst the concerns regarding his penchant not to sufficiently deal with a tag are evident he has always been devoid of scores around the 90-110 range and his ceiling will alleviate the concerns associated with his potential poor scores.

With the fixture primarily suiting him out of the Crows premiums he should be able to return to the 105+ range which is a great selection at his price range and could possibly push 110+ if he gets off to a flyer.
Hope we are onto some thing. He’s not locked for me but I’ve had him after seeing him and the crows in JLT. I think the Crows are top 4 easily this year (sorry Blues supporters....)
 

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So you’re saying they are both great picks? ;)


What about Sloane vs M.Crouch then?
M Crouch:
Adelaide Oval: 107.05 from 22 (7/22 below 100, 8/22 120+)
2017: 108.58 from 12
2018: 105.2 from 10

Adelaide Oval Wins: 109 from 16 (4/16 below 100, 7/16 120+)
2017: 111.33 from 9
2018: 106 from 7

Adelaide Oval Losses: 101.83 from 6 (3/6 below 100, 1/6 120+)
2017: 100.33 from 3
2018: 103.33 from 3

Wins: 108.63 from 24 (7/24 below 100, 10/24 120+)
2017: 111 from 15
2018: 104.67 from 9

Losses: 102.33 from 15 (6/15 below 100, 2/15 120+)
2017: 108.17 from 6
2018: 98.44 from 9

2018:
Disposals: 32.22
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 33: 111.71 from 7 (low of 100 and a high of 131, 2/7 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 33: 95.09 from 11 (low of 51 and a high of 126, 6/11 below 100, 2/11 120+)
Contested Possessions: 12.72
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 13: 113.56 from 9 (low of 100 and a high of 131, 0/9 below 100, 2/9 120+)
SC Avg when contested possessions below 13: 89.56 from 9 (low of 51 and a high of 122, 6/9 below 100, 1/9 120+)
Tackles: 3.89
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 4: 113.67 from 9 (low of 92 and a high of 131, 2/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)
SC Avg when tackles below 4: 89.44 from 9 (low of 51 and a high of 107, 4/9 below 100)
Time on Ground%: 75.8%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 76%: 105.67 from 15 (low of 68 and a high of 131, 4/15 below 100, 4/15 120+)
SC Avg when time on ground below 76%: 81 from 3 (low of 51 and a high of 100, 2/3 below 100)

Crouch's difference to Sloane is that his scoring is dependent on his game (ability to gather 30+) whereas Sloane is dependent on the team's success and both should be great selections but my preference would be R Sloane.
 
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M Crouch:
Adelaide Oval: 107.05 from 22 (7/22 below 100, 8/22 120+)
2017: 108.58 from 12
2018: 105.2 from 10

Adelaide Oval Wins: 109 from 16 (4/16 below 100, 7/16 120+)
2017: 111.33 from 9
2018: 106 from 7

Adelaide Oval Losses: 101.83 from 6 (3/6 below 100, 1/6 120+)
2017: 100.33 from 3
2018: 103.33 from 3

Wins: 108.63 from 24 (7/24 below 100, 10/24 120+)
2017: 111 from 15
2018: 104.67 from 9

Losses: 102.33 from 15 (6/15 below 100, 2/15 120+)
2017: 108.17 from 6
2018: 98.44 from 9

2018:
Disposals: 32.22
SC Avg when disposals equal/exceed 33: 111.71 from 7 (low of 100 and a high of 131, 2/7 120+)
SC Avg when disposals below 33: 95.09 from 11 (low of 51 and a high of 126, 6/11 below 100, 2/11 120+)
Contested Possessions: 12.72
SC Avg when contested possessions equal/exceed 13: 113.56 from 9 (low of 100 and a high of 131, 0/9 below 100, 2/9 120+)
SC Avg when contested possessions below 13: 89.56 from 9 (low of 51 and a high of 122, 6/9 below 100, 1/9 120+)
Tackles: 3.89
SC Avg when tackles equal/exceed 4: 113.67 from 9 (low of 92 and a high of 131, 2/9 below 100, 4/9 120+)
SC Avg when tackles below 4: 89.44 from 9 (low of 51 and a high of 107, 4/9 below 100)
Time on Ground%: 75.8%
SC Avg when time on ground equals/exceeds 76%: 105.67 from 15 (low of 68 and a high of 131, 4/15 below 100, 4/15 120+)
SC Avg when time on ground below 76%: 81 from 3 (low of 51 and a high of 100, 2/3 below 100)

Crouch's difference to Sloane is that his scoring is dependent on his game (ability to gather 30+) whereas Sloane is dependent on the team's success and both should be great selections.
95 average when gathering less than 33 disposals is a bit of a worry that that high of a number is his breakeven (or there abouts) of scoring 100+ pretty much.

The positive, he is an absolute magnet.

Do you personally see no problem in having Sloane and M.Crouch in the same team (with scoring not a worry?) even with Brad Crouch back this year?
 

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95 average when gathering less than 33 disposals is a bit of a worry that that high of a number is his breakeven (or there abouts) of scoring 100+ pretty much.

The positive, he is an absolute magnet.

Do you personally see no problem in having Sloane and M.Crouch in the same team (with scoring not a worry?) even with Brad Crouch back this year?
Only problem would be in regards to successfully navigating the byes as they share it with the Giants and Blues and I assume teams will have around 4 or more premiums from those 2 sides (eg Cripps, Simpson, Kelly, Whitfield, Coniglio, Williams). Crows were approximately around the 10th-12th highest averaging team for SC points last year and with their assumed resurgence up the ladder I expect them to be one of the highest averaging SC sides. I don't think B Crouch will have much of an impact on their SC scoring.
 
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