Discussion 2019 NFL RDT Dream Team Discussion

[Connoisseur]

With Foles's injury Minshew could be a great downgrade option for Mayfield,etc allowing K Murray to come onfield and upgrade the poor rookies.



Only needs 4-6 consecutive scores around the 25-35 range to appreciate to around the 7.5-10 million range.
Here's an example form last year with S Darnold albeit Darnold starting at a high price than Minshew.

 

[jaca]

I'd go Baker to Minshew if I had him.

Waller is my TE3, tempted to go Henry to Hock to free up a few mil.

 

[Connoisseur]

I'd go Baker to Minshew if I had him.

Waller is my TE3, tempted to go Henry to Hock to free up a few mil.

Currently my plan which will give me a QB line of L Jackson, K Murray and G Minshew but the problem is efficiently allocating the 11,810,000.
Either used to trade my RB6 (D Montgomery) and WR8 (M Boykin) to A Ekeler and S Watkins or to upgrade RB4 (L Fournette) and WR8 (Boykin) to C McCaffrey and S Watkins/J Ross/etc.

 

[jaca]

Currently my plan which will give me a QB line of L Jackson, K Murray and G Minshew but the problem is efficiently allocating the 11,810,000.
Either used to trade my RB6 (D Montgomery) and WR8 (M Boykin) to A Ekeler and S Watkins or to upgrade RB4 (L Fournette) and WR8 (Boykin) to C McCaffrey and S Watkins/J Ross/etc.

I think I'd upgrade Fournette to an A+ option, rather than go mid-tier. Fournette will get a ton of touches (because they no longer have Foles to throw the ball), but without Foles but guess would be Defences will just stack the box against JAX one credible threat.

I'd also be open to sitting on some cash and enabling some quick upgrades once R4/5 come along.

 

[Connoisseur]

I think I'd upgrade Fournette to an A+ option, rather than go mid-tier. Fournette will get a ton of touches (because they no longer have Foles to throw the ball), but without Foles but guess would be Defences will just stack the box against JAX one credible threat.

I'd also be open to sitting on some cash and enabling some quick upgrades once R4/5 come along.

Thanks. Currently have S Barkley, E Elliot and L Bell as RB1-3 with the intention of grabbing McCaffrey and Kamara eventually for Fournette and Jacobs. Don't want to sit on cash as I'd rather the majority utilised quickly and once downgrades start occurring then I might consider stashing some for double upgrades,etc.

 

[Ironhawk]

I'd go Baker to Minshew if I had him.

Waller is my TE3, tempted to go Henry to Hock to free up a few mil.

I do have Baker, thinking I'll give him one more week though. If he has another bad game against the Jets, Minshew is probably a good option before price changes kick in.

I like that TE change, one I'm considering too. I've really got to settle on which trades I go for in which week though. Fairly sure I have one trade for this week settled, the other will depend if McCaffrey smashes it or not on Friday morning. Leaning to mainly downgrades in the first couple of weeks, bringing in those that will make cash quickly while things settle in, build some cash, use that to get good players in.

 

[Connoisseur]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1171490994551808000

 

[Herbie66]

might do Mayfield - > Minshew and move Murray to QB2 & Henry - > Waller

and see how Montgomery & Sanders perform in Week 2

 

[Herbie66]

With Foles's injury Minshew could be a great downgrade option for Mayfield,etc allowing K Murray to come onfield and upgrade the poor rookies.

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Only needs 4-6 consecutive scores around the 25-35 range to appreciate to around the 7.5-10 million range.
Here's an example form last year with S Darnold albeit Darnold starting at a high price than Minshew.
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Estimating Minshew to rise $ 3 million in Week 3 & $ 2.3 million the following week

 

[Pearcey47]

All of these trade options I am seeing in here seem extremely reactionary.

 

[Herbie66]

All of these trade options I am seeing in here seem extremely reactionary.

or maybe people are just giving themselves extra options to "correct" rookies in week 3

 

[Pearcey47]

49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!

 

[jaca]

All of these trade options I am seeing in here seem extremely reactionary.

My kicker isn't on a team any more

I do know what you mean... I think this is more of a "making room" than anything else. I'll hold onto my rookies for a week.

 

[Ironhawk]

49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!

All of those players/teams are likely to get an early cash rise. I agree they are not going to be the usual scores for them, but a quick trade in / out could be beneficial.

 

[Pearcey47]

I think if you are trading this week it should be more about structure (or replacing injured/cut players) than about trading in someone that had a big score in round 1. Keep in mind that the big score only sits in their pricing cycle for 1 week.

I had 8 (out of 16) players on field score 21 or less. I'm not about to trade any of them based on one low score.

 

[jaca]

49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!

Watkins should benefit from his elevation to WR1 - but as someone who has been burnt by him a few times before I'm not going to rush in.

 

[Rupert]

49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!

I agree about the unlikelihood of repeats for the 49ers and M Brown. But I'm not so sure about Watkins and Ross.
Watkins may flourish as WR1 given the opportunity. With Hill playing he was rarely targeted - only 55 times in 10 games last year. With Hill injured and with Watkins in his 2nd year at KC I think he is a good chance of coming good. He was #4 pick in the 2014 draft, so someone thought he had talent, and he played for pretty poor Bills and Rams teams prior to KC. .

I think that Ross (and Dalton) are good chances of having best-ever years..
The Bengals have a new head coach in Zac Taylor, previously a coach at the Rams. In 2017 he was WR coach and oversaw 3 rookie WRs who put up good numbers. In 2018 as QB coach he helped Goff to career highs in every category.
I know that the Rams success is attributed mostly to McVay but it does look as though Taylor is more pass-friendly than ex-coach Lewis. Dalton threw the ball 51 times on the week-end. Last year he averaged 33 attempts per game with his attempts ranging from 17-46.
Plus, I have heard that Lewis didn't like Ross and didn't want him drafted. So Ross was hardly sighted: he only had 58 targets in 13 games at an average of 4.46 per game last year. He was targeted 12 times on the week-end. That may be due to AJ Green being out but Ross was targeted the most of any Bengals WR and Green is expected to miss up to 8 weeks.

I'd still want to see wk.02 before trading in either Watkins or Ross, though.

 

[Tails]

I agree about the unlikelihood of repeats for the 49ers and M Brown. But I'm not so sure about Watkins and Ross.
Watkins may flourish as WR1 given the opportunity. With Hill playing he was rarely targeted - only 55 times in 10 games last year. With Hill injured and with Watkins in his 2nd year at KC I think he is a good chance of coming good. He was #4 pick in the 2014 draft, so someone thought he had talent, and he played for pretty poor Bills and Rams teams prior to KC. .

I think that Ross (and Dalton) are good chances of having best-ever years..
The Bengals have a new head coach in Zac Taylor, previously a coach at the Rams. In 2017 he was WR coach and oversaw 3 rookie WRs who put up good numbers. In 2018 as QB coach he helped Goff to career highs in every category.
I know that the Rams success is attributed mostly to McVay but it does look as though Taylor is more pass-friendly than ex-coach Lewis. Dalton threw the ball 51 times on the week-end. Last year he averaged 33 attempts per game with his attempts ranging from 17-46.
Plus, I have heard that Lewis didn't like Ross and didn't want him drafted. So Ross was hardly sighted: he only had 58 targets in 13 games at an average of 4.46 per game last year. He was targeted 12 times on the week-end. That may be due to AJ Green being out but Ross was targeted the most of any Bengals WR and Green is expected to miss up to 8 weeks.

I'd still want to see wk.02 before trading in either Watkins or Ross, though.

Awesome insights and much appreciated ...

- Initially this round I had Adams on the chopping block as he has a very so-so match up this week and will bleed some cash but at what long term cost .... but my downgrade options are Watkins (breakout) and Jackson (broken finger) of both I need to see another game from !! ... Also got Gallup in the back of my mind ... wanted to start him but he got squeezed out by taking a few others ...

- Like Ekeler with Gordon out but can also wait another week as I'd prefer Bell post bye .. can go Adams down to either WR and Guice up to him .. very tempting but might be dancing with the devil !!

- I want Jacobs and am not sure whether to make it happen this week .... to facilitate it would take Henry to Waller ...

 

[pizza safety]

Not sure on this move ... DST, TE and K are so up and down IMO that I've found chasing points can also end in disaster and wasted trades ... more so than other lines ... I'd wait on a second game for any players / teams on those lines .... not advice but just my opinion ..

Edit: 48 pts looks awesome on face value but won't continue for very long ... I'll be looking to either sideways to a better DST or cash in on a cheaper option if the opportunity arises to facilitate an upgrade on another line ...

Fair call and I hear you (defense is always reiterates as unstable and this why I picked an Atl team I thought were healthier) but it could free up some future correction money around Baker and Chubb and I underestimated how many weapons SF have on defence

 

[Tails]

Fair call and I hear you (defense is always reiterates as unstable and this why I picked an Atl team I thought were healthier) but it could free up some future correction money around Baker and Chubb and I underestimated how many weapons SF have on defence

Chubb FWIW was tracking just fine until they fell too far behind and reverted to a passing game ... make of that what you want ... I still think he was a sound initial pick but the game just didn't pan out the right way ... looking at his past stats he can put up a monster score any given week ... he has the role and Hilliard is in the concussion protocol ...