Opinion SC 2021: Rate My Team
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I just came to post the very same (13 of the same players)
Docherty , Williams , Harmes , Ash , Milera , Cumming
Merrett , Jelly , Laird * , Walsh , Cripps , Rowell , Sholl * , L Young *
Gawn , Grundy
Heeney , Ziebell , Daniher , Impey , B Williams * , Cahill
Saunders & Treacy on the bench , the other 6 are $ 123,900.00
11 possible keepers
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I'm thinking that Preuss should be alright for round 1 but Whitfield probably won't be.
If Preuss isn't available I'm thinking I move Marshall to the rucks and try to get another midpriced forward in. I don't like the idea of starting Gawn.
If I can find a cheaper rookie defender than Stocker I'll turn Butters into Dusty.
I've been slightly against Macrae as a starting option because I fear he might play more wing with Treloar arriving, but he has been such a consistent high scorer over the past 3 seasons and isn't necessarily overpriced, unlike many others. There just isn't anyone else around that price who I like as much as him, I would go Fyfe but I don't think you can start Fyfe and JKelly together.
No Gawn, Neale and Lloyd because I can't justify paying that much for any of them.
Edit: this team didn't make it through the day......... I've gone Marshall to Dusty, Macrae to Will Phillips and Preuss to Gawn, leaving 38k in the bank. I wasn't in favour of starting Gawn, but with no Preuss and no Marshall to put at R2 I see no other option. Reilly O'Brien is one to consider but you'd be banking on him to take another big leap forward and then he'd still probably be averaging 10 pts less than Gawn, eventually requiring a trade.
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Have yet to post a team this preseason, even though I have been doing plenty of research and cycling through the masses of players, assessing them off a range of factors for the season ahead.
I actually settled on this side, Draft 1, a while ago in terms of the premiums, with only a minor shuffling of rookies over the recent weeks. The thing that would stand out is that I have deliberately kept ~$400K aside, this was purely as there was no premium/mid-pricers that I was yet to be 100% convinced to settle in my side, nor had I determined the line/s that I would spend that left over money on.
So some things to note in relation to this side:
And here is an updated side, Draft 2, based on some adjustments for Whitfield, who I suspect won't make Round 1, and if he does will surely be seriously under done. Have also used up the spare cash, and gone for now with an additional premium DEF as I suspect we may be a bit shallow in DEF rookie options, or at least ones that will score reasonably well.
So some things to note in relation to this side:
EDIT: Now Marshall, the only FWD I was comfortable with starting no questions asked, to deal with.
I actually settled on this side, Draft 1, a while ago in terms of the premiums, with only a minor shuffling of rookies over the recent weeks. The thing that would stand out is that I have deliberately kept ~$400K aside, this was purely as there was no premium/mid-pricers that I was yet to be 100% convinced to settle in my side, nor had I determined the line/s that I would spend that left over money on.
So some things to note in relation to this side:
- It only includes premiums that I was the best part of 'sold on'
- Per above, the spare cash unused due to not yet being 'sold on' a premium, or the yet to determine the best line/s to spend on
- As usual, plenty of high priced rookies throughout all lines, making it much easier to come down to cheaper rookies as we get closer to the AAMI games and Round 1.
- No mid-pricers, yet, but with the spare cash, and high end rookies, I can comfortable turn to the likes of Ziebell, Daniher, Impey, Young, etc. should I need to.
- Side settled well before the news on Whitfield's bruised liver, Neale's interrupted preseason, and Lloyd's niggle. To be honest, Mitchell out was probably what freed up majority of the spare cash, I had made that change the best part of three weeks ago when I knew he was seriously in doubt to make Round 1.
- Dunkley probably interchangeable with Martin at F1, I like Dunkley's upside, and I think at worst he goes 100. But could well turn to Martin for his durability, and seems he might've come back this preseason in better nick than the past few.
- Yet to consider the Bye Structure of the side. I prefer to set my preferred starting premiums and assess the byes, and plan (and trade) for them based on a settled starting side that I'm confident and comfortable in.
And here is an updated side, Draft 2, based on some adjustments for Whitfield, who I suspect won't make Round 1, and if he does will surely be seriously under done. Have also used up the spare cash, and gone for now with an additional premium DEF as I suspect we may be a bit shallow in DEF rookie options, or at least ones that will score reasonably well.
So some things to note in relation to this side:
- Still ~160K spare cash, and still plenty of high priced rookies to work with, enabling me to free up more cash by going down, or alter to fit in the Ziebell, Daniher, Impey's, etc.
- Williams a serious watch in the preseason now, if he has a genuine midfield role then I'd probably be happy to bank on him finishing a top 6-8 DEF, if his role as a MID looks at all mirky, then the spare cash could be used to turn him into a Luke Ryan, Caleb Daniel type.
- Dunkley could become Martin per the above teams notes. Still probably happy to go with the 4 premiums MIDs, and role through some MID/FWD rookies if the MID only rookies don't show to make it happen. Sam Walsh possibly the premium player outside of my current side that I don't mind at that M5 spot, but again like Williams, genuine watch on the specifics of what his midfield role entails.
EDIT: Now Marshall, the only FWD I was comfortable with starting no questions asked, to deal with.
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You are certainly reducing the on-field dependency of rookies being named round 1. This could be something that we all need to consider leading into round 1. Even with no Lloyd and no Neale, there is still some firepower. Plenty of injury risk across the lines so that's something to consider.
Don't like the Sloane pick personally. Would rather Rowell for an extra $30K.
Don't like the Sloane pick personally. Would rather Rowell for an extra $30K.
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My first crack at a team in this horrible new post-apocalyptic Preuss- and Marshall-less world:
I guess it's good that it happened a month out but losing two key planks of in your overall strategy isn't great. It is cold comfort that there would be a lot of non-Grawndy owners out there in a similar boat.
A bit worried that I'm short on keepers and thus a bit on-the-fence structure wise at the moment, but that will sort itself out over the next few weeks.
I guess it's good that it happened a month out but losing two key planks of in your overall strategy isn't great. It is cold comfort that there would be a lot of non-Grawndy owners out there in a similar boat.
A bit worried that I'm short on keepers and thus a bit on-the-fence structure wise at the moment, but that will sort itself out over the next few weeks.
Thought it time to revisit a zero rookie on field team until we get some certainty there. With this team I tried to pick players I thought would pretty much hold price at a minimum, and hopefully increase in value in most cases.
I still think we will get enough rookies playing to not have to worry, but with teams named the day before the match again this season, who knows for sure.
I still think we will get enough rookies playing to not have to worry, but with teams named the day before the match again this season, who knows for sure.
Something a bit different, basic premise is if I've heard something bad about a premium, they're out... this is my result.
Backs
Laird - He's a lock for mine. The only guy with a perfect preseason so far and genuine upside combination.
Short - Think he's fairly priced with potential to improve but I'll be honest, I'd probably take Doch instead at this price.
Williams - Worth the risk at his price. Don't think he goes backwards and he's definitely capable of at least spiking to make cash in the event he doesn't get premium.
Milera - Think he's an 85 guy but more than capable of a solid 105 type month to price spike. More importantly, I can see a 95 from him that adds a silver lining to his already solid cloud.
Rooks - Just occupying the spots. Judge nothing from them. This goes for all lines.
Mids
Steele - The one I'm most bullish on, think the team improves, think he improves in his 2nd year as a ball winning midfielder. I actually see his move last year as not dissimilar to Neale moving to the Lions and that went pretty well the 2nd year around. Neale out on preseason injury, things need to be pretty flawless at his level.
Petracca - Surprisingly little news on him, wouldn't mind a puff piece. Just rate him and think he's got upside. There is certainly risk in this pick though.
Bont - The interesting pick but this is a durability, age profile, best player at the team and Treloar's durability combination. I think he's capable of a much higher average if things go well but should be fairly priced... of course he's burned me hard everytime I started him so far...
Kelly - Upside and the preseason just get me here. Too good a player and I just like watching him (another strong factor in this team!)
Cripps - Lock, too much risk to not pick.
Heppell - Can see a solid 90 average with a 105+ month to spike. That matches the mid level rookies but the scoring should be reliable and worth the premium as such. Absolutely perfect storm he could hit M8, added bonus.
Rucks
Well all thought of something different here went out the window when my R3 went down.
Forwards
Sidebottom - If Danger looks fine, and given his drama queen level he probably is, then I'd change this but perfect preseason rule... I don't know why I don't like the Dunkley pick but between his durability and role concerns I just struggle with it.
Martin - This is basically a durability play. I think he's 5 points overpriced, I think he'll be available for ~75k less and yet he's the best bet to play 22 and he's a strong bet to be best 6 at season's end. That I think that makes him a top 2 pick at the position is, quite frankly, disgusting.
Ziebiher - Locked in my side until they aren't there round 1.
I hate this forward group, the more I look at it, the more I want to start Ziebell at F1 and I still think that's my preference if the rookies allow it. Biggest issue with doing it is actually overbalancing other positions, I don't like Lloyd as a starting pick either, but would basically be going towards too many defenders or mids, which forces you to be more accurate in starter choices at those spots as you limit the flexibility big time for your upgrade targets and do have to put an early focus towards forward upgrades. For the first time in a long time though there doesn't seem to be any standout mid or def rookies and with Impey, Daniher and Ziebell basically rookie priced you might have the 3 best in the forwards and all special cases on JS front which does make finding 5 others a lot more viable than it should be.
Backs
Laird - He's a lock for mine. The only guy with a perfect preseason so far and genuine upside combination.
Short - Think he's fairly priced with potential to improve but I'll be honest, I'd probably take Doch instead at this price.
Williams - Worth the risk at his price. Don't think he goes backwards and he's definitely capable of at least spiking to make cash in the event he doesn't get premium.
Milera - Think he's an 85 guy but more than capable of a solid 105 type month to price spike. More importantly, I can see a 95 from him that adds a silver lining to his already solid cloud.
Rooks - Just occupying the spots. Judge nothing from them. This goes for all lines.
Mids
Steele - The one I'm most bullish on, think the team improves, think he improves in his 2nd year as a ball winning midfielder. I actually see his move last year as not dissimilar to Neale moving to the Lions and that went pretty well the 2nd year around. Neale out on preseason injury, things need to be pretty flawless at his level.
Petracca - Surprisingly little news on him, wouldn't mind a puff piece. Just rate him and think he's got upside. There is certainly risk in this pick though.
Bont - The interesting pick but this is a durability, age profile, best player at the team and Treloar's durability combination. I think he's capable of a much higher average if things go well but should be fairly priced... of course he's burned me hard everytime I started him so far...
Kelly - Upside and the preseason just get me here. Too good a player and I just like watching him (another strong factor in this team!)
Cripps - Lock, too much risk to not pick.
Heppell - Can see a solid 90 average with a 105+ month to spike. That matches the mid level rookies but the scoring should be reliable and worth the premium as such. Absolutely perfect storm he could hit M8, added bonus.
Rucks
Well all thought of something different here went out the window when my R3 went down.
Forwards
Sidebottom - If Danger looks fine, and given his drama queen level he probably is, then I'd change this but perfect preseason rule... I don't know why I don't like the Dunkley pick but between his durability and role concerns I just struggle with it.
Martin - This is basically a durability play. I think he's 5 points overpriced, I think he'll be available for ~75k less and yet he's the best bet to play 22 and he's a strong bet to be best 6 at season's end. That I think that makes him a top 2 pick at the position is, quite frankly, disgusting.
Ziebiher - Locked in my side until they aren't there round 1.
I hate this forward group, the more I look at it, the more I want to start Ziebell at F1 and I still think that's my preference if the rookies allow it. Biggest issue with doing it is actually overbalancing other positions, I don't like Lloyd as a starting pick either, but would basically be going towards too many defenders or mids, which forces you to be more accurate in starter choices at those spots as you limit the flexibility big time for your upgrade targets and do have to put an early focus towards forward upgrades. For the first time in a long time though there doesn't seem to be any standout mid or def rookies and with Impey, Daniher and Ziebell basically rookie priced you might have the 3 best in the forwards and all special cases on JS front which does make finding 5 others a lot more viable than it should be.