BBL|12: Combined SCS Team

[Darkie]

It looks like you have selected 5 Thunder, 3 Strikers (and no DGR keeper). I do probably prefer this structure...

Thanks though.

Ugh, sorry! This is what happens when I do things before coffee 🙂

Hopefully this looks okay.

I don’t love Gilkes and plan to fade him in favour of Philippe, but have included him here as it sounds like he will get voted up anyway, and I needed a R1 DGR keeper. I used to like Clarke but his form was weaker than I’d hoped.

I’ve also included Webster as an additional Star on the bench - hopefully this is not controversial. I’m toying with doing this for my own side, and wanted to register a vote for him for the combined side, as I think he could be a good cheapie.

I’ve left cash in the bank because funnily enough, this side has more names that I like than what I get if I spend it (within the confines of our rules). The dearest R1 double players I like that I haven’t included are Siddle and probably Lynn, but that would mean trimming Rashid (undesirable) or Short (which I’d be okay with given role uncertainty and price, but his high price is useful structurally for trading purposes). I could spend the cash on the bench, but probably wouldn’t do that for my own team, and would rather register my support for the individual names I’ve chosen than a dearer option that we probably won’t be able to afford anyway.

 

[Ironhawk]

There have been changes a plenty so this is my revised scs team To my way of thinking we must include a nuffie and mine is Connolly who may just get some game time later WKT Inglis BATS---short sams hales ressow stoinis BWL - siddle doggett khan green zampa BENCH gilkes hardie neser renshaw connolly Not 100% on the keeping possie Carey is relatively cheap as a non playing option but just can't do it coin wise and gonad wise cheers fellas should be my final combined scs team NDD

Hadn't picked up that this team has 3 Strikers / 2 Stars rather than the other way around. Doesn't affect things too much, I have included it anyway.

From the six teams provided (thank you for your input), the most popular selections were:

Sydney Thunder:
Gilkes 6
Sams 6
Hales 6
Roussow 6
Green 5

Farooqi 3
McAndrew, Doggett, Cutting 1

The first 5 were almost unanimous, Farooqi was the most selected in the 6th slot.

Melbourne Stars:
Stoinis 6
Zampa 6

Boult 3
Larkin, NCN, Webster 1

Similar to the Thunder, 2 unanimous picks, and a split decision on the final spot with a clear preference.

Adelaide Strikers:
Khan 6

Short 3
Siddle, Lynn, 2

One unanimous pick, then a mixture for the final spot. Ignoring Nielsen selections for now, as both picks had him on the bench.

Bench:
Inglis 6
Wade, Neser 3

Agar, Renshaw, Mujeeb, Nielsen 2
Tye, Hardie, Connolly, Richardson, Shadab, Hosein 1

Apart from Inglis, it's a bit of a mess of selections. Locking in those with 3 initially, I had to make a decision on those with 2 selections - the two cheapest (Mujeeb and Nielsen) made the cut for budget reasons.

After all that, the final team is below ($16,100 currently in the bank):



This side is not finalised yet. I am hoping for any feedback on this team you may have, selections that you think should change, different structure options etc. There is just under 9 days until the first match, but I expect at least a few curveballs and changes before this kicks off.

I'll also be looking for feedback on VC and C choices in coming days, along with E loops etc. Feel free to chip in with any thoughts on these for now, but I'll post something more formal in the next day or two (including what score we accept to lock in a VC score as C).

Thanks everyone for getting us the team we have so far. Of course, I possibly could have just asked @Herbie66 and saved us a lot of time, whose team had all but 1 of the final selected team (He had Lynn over Short).

 

[mike89]

Might be obvious, but I'll add the caveat that if one of those Thunder internationals doesn't get named they should pretty much instantly be replaced by Qadir, assuming he comes in instead.

I still don't like the Nielsen pick but I can't argue with the numbers!

For VC and E loops, I'm assuming you want a set threshold on when the loop kicks in? So if I said my threshold was, say, 50 to lock in the loop, we'd combine all those and set it at the average? (Also, would the threshold change depending on if the captain had two games or only one?)

 

[Herbie66]

Hadn't picked up that this team has 3 Strikers / 2 Stars rather than the other way around. Doesn't affect things too much, I have included it anyway.

From the six teams provided (thank you for your input), the most popular selections were:

Sydney Thunder:
Gilkes 6
Sams 6
Hales 6
Roussow 6
Green 5

Farooqi 3
McAndrew, Doggett, Cutting 1

The first 5 were almost unanimous, Farooqi was the most selected in the 6th slot.

Melbourne Stars:
Stoinis 6
Zampa 6

Boult 3
Larkin, NCN, Webster 1

Similar to the Thunder, 2 unanimous picks, and a split decision on the final spot with a clear preference.

Adelaide Strikers:
Khan 6

Short 3
Siddle, Lynn, 2

One unanimous pick, then a mixture for the final spot. Ignoring Nielsen selections for now, as both picks had him on the bench.

Bench:
Inglis 6
Wade, Neser 3

Agar, Renshaw, Mujeeb, Nielsen 2
Tye, Hardie, Connolly, Richardson, Shadab, Hosein 1

Apart from Inglis, it's a bit of a mess of selections. Locking in those with 3 initially, I had to make a decision on those with 2 selections - the two cheapest (Mujeeb and Nielsen) made the cut for budget reasons.

After all that, the final team is below ($16,100 currently in the bank):

View attachment 49692

This side is not finalised yet. I am hoping for any feedback on this team you may have, selections that you think should change, different structure options etc. There is just under 9 days until the first match, but I expect at least a few curveballs and changes before this kicks off.

I'll also be looking for feedback on VC and C choices in coming days, along with E loops etc. Feel free to chip in with any thoughts on these for now, but I'll post something more formal in the next day or two (including what score we accept to lock in a VC score as C).

Thanks everyone for getting us the team we have so far. Of course, I possibly could have just asked @Herbie66 and saved us a lot of time, whose team had all but 1 of the final selected team (He had Lynn over Short).

lol , I was about to say that does look a lot like my own onfield team that I keep coming back to but I now have Siddle + 1 other instead of Short & Farooqi.

Probably light on Scorchers for the bench for mine , but not a big deal

Looks good

Great job coordinating it all , hope it gains more and more interest in the final week before the competition starts

 

[Darkie]

Hadn't picked up that this team has 3 Strikers / 2 Stars rather than the other way around. Doesn't affect things too much, I have included it anyway.

From the six teams provided (thank you for your input), the most popular selections were:

Sydney Thunder:
Gilkes 6
Sams 6
Hales 6
Roussow 6
Green 5

Farooqi 3
McAndrew, Doggett, Cutting 1

The first 5 were almost unanimous, Farooqi was the most selected in the 6th slot.

Melbourne Stars:
Stoinis 6
Zampa 6

Boult 3
Larkin, NCN, Webster 1

Similar to the Thunder, 2 unanimous picks, and a split decision on the final spot with a clear preference.

Adelaide Strikers:
Khan 6

Short 3
Siddle, Lynn, 2

One unanimous pick, then a mixture for the final spot. Ignoring Nielsen selections for now, as both picks had him on the bench.

Bench:
Inglis 6
Wade, Neser 3

Agar, Renshaw, Mujeeb, Nielsen 2
Tye, Hardie, Connolly, Richardson, Shadab, Hosein 1

Apart from Inglis, it's a bit of a mess of selections. Locking in those with 3 initially, I had to make a decision on those with 2 selections - the two cheapest (Mujeeb and Nielsen) made the cut for budget reasons.

After all that, the final team is below ($16,100 currently in the bank):

View attachment 49692

This side is not finalised yet. I am hoping for any feedback on this team you may have, selections that you think should change, different structure options etc. There is just under 9 days until the first match, but I expect at least a few curveballs and changes before this kicks off.

I'll also be looking for feedback on VC and C choices in coming days, along with E loops etc. Feel free to chip in with any thoughts on these for now, but I'll post something more formal in the next day or two (including what score we accept to lock in a VC score as C).

Thanks everyone for getting us the team we have so far. Of course, I possibly could have just asked @Herbie66 and saved us a lot of time, whose team had all but 1 of the final selected team (He had Lynn over Short).

Looks like this is coming together nicely!

One thing I noticed is that while most people seem to be struggling to pick 2 keepers, we ended up with 3. I can see that Wade and Nielsen earned their spots on the votes (3 and 2), but given they sum to <6, I’m wondering if for most people they were really alternatives (rather than complementary picks), who just got over the line because there are so few keepers to pick from (eg the 10th most chosen keeper on a really big poll would probably beat the 10th most chosen batsman to selection, but the keeper likely wouldn’t get a game in real life!). Keepers are looking a fair bit like rucks to start this year 🙂

If we are looking for cash, or ways to improve the side, I would probably consider switching to 2 keepers.

I think we have a great base to work from though. Maybe we also get a bit more participation when it comes down to X vs Y, and people don’t have to clear out their side in order to submit one for this endeavour 🙂

 

[Ironhawk]

Looks like this is coming together nicely!

One thing I noticed is that while most people seem to be struggling to pick 2 keepers, we ended up with 3. I can see that Wade and Nielsen earned their spots on the votes (3 and 2), but given they sum to <6, I’m wondering if for most people they were really alternatives (rather than complementary picks), who just got over the line because there are so few keepers to pick from (eg the 10th most chosen keeper on a really big poll would probably beat the 10th most chosen batsman to selection, but the keeper likely wouldn’t get a game in real life!). Keepers are looking a fair bit like rucks to start this year 🙂

If we are looking for cash, or ways to improve the side, I would probably consider switching to 2 keepers.

I think we have a great base to work from though. Maybe we also get a bit more participation when it comes down to X vs Y, and people don’t have to clear out their side in order to submit one for this endeavour 🙂

I agree. We actually have 4 (Gilkes, Nielsen, Wade and Inglis). I think that's more than enough.

Any others think we could remove one on the bench for another batter? Nielsen seems the logical one to me, but we don't have a lot of additional cash. I suggested Larkin in my team, but there's a few other good possibilities for up to $78,600 (if I did my maths right without checking).

 

[Ironhawk]

For VC and E loops, I'm assuming you want a set threshold on when the loop kicks in? So if I said my threshold was, say, 50 to lock in the loop, we'd combine all those and set it at the average? (Also, would the threshold change depending on if the captain had two games or only one?)

This is close, I'll post something tonight when I get a bit more time.

 

[Darkie]

This is close, I'll post something tonight when I get a bit more time.

I agree. We actually have 4 (Gilkes, Nielsen, Wade and Inglis). I think that's more than enough.

Any others think we could remove one on the bench for another batter? Nielsen seems the logical one to me, but we don't have a lot of additional cash. I suggested Larkin in my team, but there's a few other good possibilities for up to $78,600 (if I did my maths right without checking).

Guess who hadn’t had his coffee again? 😋

Cheapies around Nielsen’s price that may be of interest include Webster, NCN (may need another shuffle), Conway. Notably all have the round 1 double, which could be good for looping or bad for total DGR count.

Alternately Wade is one I’ve closely considered, but who doesn’t have an early double and does have the bye. There also seems to be some role uncertainty, so I’ve passed on him for now even though I’m trying to pack value into my side. He would generate a bit more cash and get us a good player with an upcoming double if we wanted.

There’s probably even an argument that we could forgo both if we wanted to add some restricting flexibility. I think an X vs Y approach could work well to get broader involvement on the lineball calls.

 

[NDD]

Looks a great starting team >>>>>Yes Neilson seems to be the odd one but still a strong team Thunder bowlers was a raffle aside from sams .If Sams is out that throws up a huge curveball .Overall I am happy with it cheers NDD

 

[NDD]

Only two different from my starting 11 BOULT and FAROOQI in for SIDDLE and DOGGETT -Wade's starting possie could be a sticking point I chose Doggett over Farooqi purely on current form Siddle being a last minute choice which threw my AS / MS out apologies for that . Interesting bench and that is possibly where debate will occur. Great start well done lads NDD

 

[Ironhawk]

As mentioned, I think there are still a few things to sort out with our starting team before matches begin. Can I please get your thoughts on the following:

• We need to set a score that will be acceptable for me to lock in a player to take their VC score as C. There will be times there will not be time to discuss this between matches, so it's best to get a policy in place early and stick to it. My initial thoughts are we set this at 65 from a players first match in a round (130 on a double for any rare times a VC plays twice before the C), which is based on the 72.95 average @Diabolical managed for his captain scores per score involvement across the season when he won last year. Others might think this is too high or too low though. Just letting you know, I am rubbish at deciding when to lock in a VC score, so feel free to disregard this completely.
• We need to decide on a VC and C option from the first round. Thunder and Stars play in the first match with both having a double, so I suggest it will be out of those two teams for VC. Generally bowlers who bat early are a good way to go, which suggest Stoinis for me, however last year early batting options did reasonably well full stop (I know McDermott went huge in one or two rounds). Maybe Hales if Thunder bat first, although this runs the risk of a very low score if he gets out early? I think I'd prefer the VC to be from a side batting first, so my thoughts are I'd pick out of those two at the time based on which team bats first (Stoinis/Hales). As for a C option if our VC fails, Strikers are the other team on a double and Short seems the logical pick to me as an early batter who bowls.
• We need to set our three emergencies and set up any loops. Currently Inglis is our only guaranteed loop (possibly Neser if he misses on test duties - more on this in the next dot point), meaning we can loop a keeper or batter. My first thought was we loop Gilkes, having Inglis as on field keeper due to the Thunder playing first and Holt possibly playing the second match (I doubt they chop and change keepers), but possibly Roussow or another Thunder batter only who doesn't open might be better? I'm leaning to looping Roussow the more I think about it. Wade would be the logical other BAT/WKP E, depending which line we loop. I currently think Mujeeb gets the E for the bowlers over Neser, especially if Neser misses. If we know for sure we can loop with Neser, I'd be looping Farooqi, who could possibly be dropped for Qadir in the second match.
• We need to work out any player changes to make. I personally think there are 4 players who could possibly be in the gun for various reasons - Nielsen, Wade, Farooqi and Neser. As mentioned, we don't really need 4 keepers, so Nielsen (bats low, scores poorly) or Wade (no early double) seem the logical options to go. Replacing these allows any BAT player for up to $78,600 (Nielsen) or $136,500 (Wade) - assuming this is the only change we do. Farooqi doesn't seem locked, as the Thunder likely only have 1 international bowler out of him/Qadir in any match. I personally think if he is named in game 1, he stays, if not we jump to a different Thunder bowler (probably McAndrew in terms of who we'd be able to afford). Neser could be on test team duties (I expect he will), but it may actually be beneficial to keep him as an expensive loop. I just think that cash might be able to be used eleswhere. Of these, I personally think our best replacements would be Nielsen to Sutherland (he has been in pretty good form at an identical price, has a DGR in the first block of 5 matches) and keep the others as is. I'm sort of tempted to trade Wade too, but want to see others thoughts on this - I think he will be one of the better keeper options, the lack of an early DGR would be the only reason I see to trade him.

Thanks. Just over a week to go now, so we need to sort these out before the first game starts.

 

[NDD]

As mentioned, I think there are still a few things to sort out with our starting team before matches begin. Can I please get your thoughts on the following:

• We need to set a score that will be acceptable for me to lock in a player to take their VC score as C. There will be times there will not be time to discuss this between matches, so it's best to get a policy in place early and stick to it. My initial thoughts are we set this at 65 from a players first match in a round (130 on a double for any rare times a VC plays twice before the C), which is based on the 72.95 average @Diabolical managed for his captain scores per score involvement across the season when he won last year. Others might think this is too high or too low though. Just letting you know, I am rubbish at deciding when to lock in a VC score, so feel free to disregard this completely.
• We need to decide on a VC and C option from the first round. Thunder and Stars play in the first match with both having a double, so I suggest it will be out of those two teams for VC. Generally bowlers who bat early are a good way to go, which suggest Stoinis for me, however last year early batting options did reasonably well full stop (I know McDermott went huge in one or two rounds). Maybe Hales if Thunder bat first, although this runs the risk of a very low score if he gets out early? I think I'd prefer the VC to be from a side batting first, so my thoughts are I'd pick out of those two at the time based on which team bats first (Stoinis/Hales). As for a C option if our VC fails, Strikers are the other team on a double and Short seems the logical pick to me as an early batter who bowls.
• We need to set our three emergencies and set up any loops. Currently Inglis is our only guaranteed loop (possibly Neser if he misses on test duties - more on this in the next dot point), meaning we can loop a keeper or batter. My first thought was we loop Gilkes, having Inglis as on field keeper due to the Thunder playing first and Holt possibly playing the second match (I doubt they chop and change keepers), but possibly Roussow or another Thunder batter only who doesn't open might be better? I'm leaning to looping Roussow the more I think about it. Wade would be the logical other BAT/WKP E, depending which line we loop. I currently think Mujeeb gets the E for the bowlers over Neser, especially if Neser misses. If we know for sure we can loop with Neser, I'd be looping Farooqi, who could possibly be dropped for Qadir in the second match.
• We need to work out any player changes to make. I personally think there are 4 players who could possibly be in the gun for various reasons - Nielsen, Wade, Farooqi and Neser. As mentioned, we don't really need 4 keepers, so Nielsen (bats low, scores poorly) or Wade (no early double) seem the logical options to go. Replacing these allows any BAT player for up to $78,600 (Nielsen) or $136,500 (Wade) - assuming this is the only change we do. Farooqi doesn't seem locked, as the ThundFarooq[ to McAndrewer likely only have 1 international bowler out of him/Qadir in any match. I personally think if he is named in game 1, he stays, if not we jump to a different Thunder bowler (probably McAndrew in terms of who we'd be able to afford). Neser could be on test team duties (I expect he will), but it may actually be beneficial to keep him as an expensive loop. I just think that cash might be able to be used eleswhere. Of these, I personally think our best replacements would be Nielsen to Sutherland (he has been in pretty good form at an identical price, has a DGR in the first block of 5 matches) and keep the others as is. I'm sort of tempted to trade Wade too, but want to see others thoughts on this - I think he will be one of the better keeper options, the lack of an early DGR would be the only reason I see to trade him.

Thanks. Just over a week to go now, so we need to sort these out before the first game starts.[/QUOTE CAPT/VC score i think it needs to be slightly higher maybe 70 CAPT/ VC SELECTIONS SToinis seems a logical vc particularly if bowling and Khan my captain choice EMERGENCIES --INGLIS----ROSSOW----Neser if he remains Changes Neser to Swepson who takes the emerg.role and Farooqi to McAndrew NDD

 

[Darkie]

As mentioned, I think there are still a few things to sort out with our starting team before matches begin. Can I please get your thoughts on the following:

• We need to set a score that will be acceptable for me to lock in a player to take their VC score as C. There will be times there will not be time to discuss this between matches, so it's best to get a policy in place early and stick to it. My initial thoughts are we set this at 65 from a players first match in a round (130 on a double for any rare times a VC plays twice before the C), which is based on the 72.95 average @Diabolical managed for his captain scores per score involvement across the season when he won last year. Others might think this is too high or too low though. Just letting you know, I am rubbish at deciding when to lock in a VC score, so feel free to disregard this completely.
• We need to decide on a VC and C option from the first round. Thunder and Stars play in the first match with both having a double, so I suggest it will be out of those two teams for VC. Generally bowlers who bat early are a good way to go, which suggest Stoinis for me, however last year early batting options did reasonably well full stop (I know McDermott went huge in one or two rounds). Maybe Hales if Thunder bat first, although this runs the risk of a very low score if he gets out early? I think I'd prefer the VC to be from a side batting first, so my thoughts are I'd pick out of those two at the time based on which team bats first (Stoinis/Hales). As for a C option if our VC fails, Strikers are the other team on a double and Short seems the logical pick to me as an early batter who bowls.
• We need to set our three emergencies and set up any loops. Currently Inglis is our only guaranteed loop (possibly Neser if he misses on test duties - more on this in the next dot point), meaning we can loop a keeper or batter. My first thought was we loop Gilkes, having Inglis as on field keeper due to the Thunder playing first and Holt possibly playing the second match (I doubt they chop and change keepers), but possibly Roussow or another Thunder batter only who doesn't open might be better? I'm leaning to looping Roussow the more I think about it. Wade would be the logical other BAT/WKP E, depending which line we loop. I currently think Mujeeb gets the E for the bowlers over Neser, especially if Neser misses. If we know for sure we can loop with Neser, I'd be looping Farooqi, who could possibly be dropped for Qadir in the second match.
• We need to work out any player changes to make. I personally think there are 4 players who could possibly be in the gun for various reasons - Nielsen, Wade, Farooqi and Neser. As mentioned, we don't really need 4 keepers, so Nielsen (bats low, scores poorly) or Wade (no early double) seem the logical options to go. Replacing these allows any BAT player for up to $78,600 (Nielsen) or $136,500 (Wade) - assuming this is the only change we do. Farooqi doesn't seem locked, as the Thunder likely only have 1 international bowler out of him/Qadir in any match. I personally think if he is named in game 1, he stays, if not we jump to a different Thunder bowler (probably McAndrew in terms of who we'd be able to afford). Neser could be on test team duties (I expect he will), but it may actually be beneficial to keep him as an expensive loop. I just think that cash might be able to be used eleswhere. Of these, I personally think our best replacements would be Nielsen to Sutherland (he has been in pretty good form at an identical price, has a DGR in the first block of 5 matches) and keep the others as is. I'm sort of tempted to trade Wade too, but want to see others thoughts on this - I think he will be one of the better keeper options, the lack of an early DGR would be the only reason I see to trade him.

Thanks. Just over a week to go now, so we need to sort these out before the first game starts.

Good call on this.

I think specific loops may be best settled once we have more info on Neser/any personal changes to our side, but I did wonder whether we should have a points cutoff for taking the E, similar to what we do for taking VC?

I normally would accept a 60 in an SGR from my VC unless I was very bullish on a matchup (there are very few players who average above this consistently), but I’m fine with 65.

For the E loop, I’d say maybe 40 as a threshold early in the season, when our backup option is probably pretty cheap/poor. That could nudge higher as our bench gets stronger.

 

[Darkie]

As mentioned, I think there are still a few things to sort out with our starting team before matches begin. Can I please get your thoughts on the following:

• We need to set a score that will be acceptable for me to lock in a player to take their VC score as C. There will be times there will not be time to discuss this between matches, so it's best to get a policy in place early and stick to it. My initial thoughts are we set this at 65 from a players first match in a round (130 on a double for any rare times a VC plays twice before the C), which is based on the 72.95 average @Diabolical managed for his captain scores per score involvement across the season when he won last year. Others might think this is too high or too low though. Just letting you know, I am rubbish at deciding when to lock in a VC score, so feel free to disregard this completely.
• We need to decide on a VC and C option from the first round. Thunder and Stars play in the first match with both having a double, so I suggest it will be out of those two teams for VC. Generally bowlers who bat early are a good way to go, which suggest Stoinis for me, however last year early batting options did reasonably well full stop (I know McDermott went huge in one or two rounds). Maybe Hales if Thunder bat first, although this runs the risk of a very low score if he gets out early? I think I'd prefer the VC to be from a side batting first, so my thoughts are I'd pick out of those two at the time based on which team bats first (Stoinis/Hales). As for a C option if our VC fails, Strikers are the other team on a double and Short seems the logical pick to me as an early batter who bowls.
• We need to set our three emergencies and set up any loops. Currently Inglis is our only guaranteed loop (possibly Neser if he misses on test duties - more on this in the next dot point), meaning we can loop a keeper or batter. My first thought was we loop Gilkes, having Inglis as on field keeper due to the Thunder playing first and Holt possibly playing the second match (I doubt they chop and change keepers), but possibly Roussow or another Thunder batter only who doesn't open might be better? I'm leaning to looping Roussow the more I think about it. Wade would be the logical other BAT/WKP E, depending which line we loop. I currently think Mujeeb gets the E for the bowlers over Neser, especially if Neser misses. If we know for sure we can loop with Neser, I'd be looping Farooqi, who could possibly be dropped for Qadir in the second match.
• We need to work out any player changes to make. I personally think there are 4 players who could possibly be in the gun for various reasons - Nielsen, Wade, Farooqi and Neser. As mentioned, we don't really need 4 keepers, so Nielsen (bats low, scores poorly) or Wade (no early double) seem the logical options to go. Replacing these allows any BAT player for up to $78,600 (Nielsen) or $136,500 (Wade) - assuming this is the only change we do. Farooqi doesn't seem locked, as the Thunder likely only have 1 international bowler out of him/Qadir in any match. I personally think if he is named in game 1, he stays, if not we jump to a different Thunder bowler (probably McAndrew in terms of who we'd be able to afford). Neser could be on test team duties (I expect he will), but it may actually be beneficial to keep him as an expensive loop. I just think that cash might be able to be used eleswhere. Of these, I personally think our best replacements would be Nielsen to Sutherland (he has been in pretty good form at an identical price, has a DGR in the first block of 5 matches) and keep the others as is. I'm sort of tempted to trade Wade too, but want to see others thoughts on this - I think he will be one of the better keeper options, the lack of an early DGR would be the only reason I see to trade him.

Thanks. Just over a week to go now, so we need to sort these out before the first game starts.

One additional thought - Wade seems to be getting more love in the main thread with Neesham’s signing. If we are okay that he is safe, maybe the others are in the gun and become part of an X vs Y vs Z (etc) that we set up as a poll?

Eg the first option is Nielsen/Neser/Farooqi (our default/current selection) and the others are combos that work positionally and budget-wise, and then people can choose their preferred combo? I’m wondering if that’s easier overall than shuffling one at a time and trying to get critical mass that way (?).

Edit: it also allows people to indirectly express a view that they would like 0, 1, 2 or 3 changes if they wish.

 

[Ironhawk]

One additional thought - Wade seems to be getting more love in the main thread with Neesham’s signing. If we are okay that he is safe, maybe the others are in the gun and become part of an X vs Y vs Z (etc) that we set up as a poll?

Eg the first option is Nielsen/Neser/Farooqi (our default/current selection) and the others are combos that work positionally and budget-wise, and then people can choose their preferred combo? I’m wondering if that’s easier overall than shuffling one at a time and trying to get critical mass that way (?).

Edit: it also allows people to indirectly express a view that they would like 0, 1, 2 or 3 changes if they wish.

I quite like this, I'll have to think about poll options though.

Good call on this.

I think specific loops may be best settled once we have more info on Neser/any personal changes to our side, but I did wonder whether we should have a points cutoff for taking the E, similar to what we do for taking VC?

I normally would accept a 60 in an SGR from my VC unless I was very bullish on a matchup (there are very few players who average above this consistently), but I’m fine with 65.

For the E loop, I’d say maybe 40 as a threshold early in the season, when our backup option is probably pretty cheap/poor. That could nudge higher as our bench gets stronger.

An E loop is reasonable to decide on, if we are looping players deciding what we would accept seems sensible. Any other ideas on looped scores we should accept?

I don't mind a slightly lower average for VC in a SGR. 60 for SGR and 65 for DGR maybe?

 

[Chumpion]

I quite like this, I'll have to think about poll options though.

An E loop is reasonable to decide on, if we are looping players deciding what we would accept seems sensible. Any other ideas on looped scores we should accept?

I don't mind a slightly lower average for VC in a SGR. 60 for SGR and 65 for DGR maybe?

We might need to have a 3rd cutoff which is for when our VC is on a double but out back up C isn’t (only happens in rounds 3 and 13 but still). Do we only loop if the VC gets injured? Or do we just say no looping given 2 games “should” beat 1 even if the first game is poo?

 

[Ironhawk]

As an update, I'm looking at setting up a poll (with help of course) on which players should be changed in the current line up. I have narrowed it down to 3 players to include in this poll, this poll will help figure out which, if any we change. Hopefully this gets posted within the next day or so. A follow up poll will then be posted with alternative selections, which I hope will finalise our starting team.

I think the consensus of the three most dubious picks in the current team from the main BBL topic would be Nielsen (bit of a dud scorer, might not need 4 WKP), Neser (most likely missing matches with test duties) and Farooqi (can only play 3 international players, so might miss 1-2 matches in the first 2 rounds). I know there is "news" about Green that some people are concerned about, but I'll believe this one when it is reported in a more reliable source, so I think he stays for now.

As for the other items I was seeking feedback on, I have decided to be a bit flexible with the VC/E scores this round until after game 1 rather than locking anything in now. I'll still be seeking feedback on who to set as C/VC/E etc once we finalise this team after the next two polls.

 

[Darkie]

New poll posted.

Please vote

 

[Ironhawk]

Thanks @Darkie for the poll.

As per my previous post, these 3 players seem the most uncertain selections in our team. I personally think that Nielsen and Neser should both be replaced. Farooqi I don't see a decent replacement in the Thunder side, and I'd suggest only running with 5 Thunder players if we trade him out too. It will be interesting to see the majority opinion here, so the more votes the better.

 

[Herbie66]

Thanks @Darkie for the poll.

As per my previous post, these 3 players seem the most uncertain selections in our team. I personally think that Nielsen and Neser should both be replaced. Farooqi I don't see a decent replacement in the Thunder side, and I'd suggest only running with 5 Thunder players if we trade him out too. It will be interesting to see the majority opinion here, so the more votes the better.

Too much uncertainty with the Test Squad for Neser , so think he is a easy trade out.

Would maybe look at a Swepson (in preparation for DGR 3) or try a Hosein/Mujeeb.

Depending on their starting team (doesn't give much time to make a vote though) Farooqi could become Qadir or McAndrew for same/similar price.

I vote Nielsen stays at WK2.