Discussion BBL|12: Planning Thread
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I dont see how hes anything other than batting 6 and their 6th bowler that bowls 1 or 2 a game max, isn't exactly screaming consistent output to me, don't really see how he bats any higher when there is still going to be Faf,Roy/Banton,Bancroft,Inglis and Turner, one I'm pretty happy to fade personally when theres so many other good options that aren't much more expensive.
Has played plenty of Cricket for WA without Marsh available under the same coach and has never batted up the order find it hard to believe hes going to suddenly come out and bat top 4, even when he was injured and playing as a batsman he still batted down the order for WA, just don't see this great improvement in role happening but happy to be proven wrong.
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This is pretty much how I see it happening too. Although the top 4 could be in any order really. Also think that Mills plays and perhaps it’s Dorff who misses when Hatz plays.
I agree that it’s most likely that Hardie slots in at 6 with five bowlers behind him and in that scenario he likely bowls around 2 overs per game. Not an attractive prospect if that’s the case.
I agree that it’s most likely that Hardie slots in at 6 with five bowlers behind him and in that scenario he likely bowls around 2 overs per game. Not an attractive prospect if that’s the case.
It’s a high ceiling, low floor type of role. Wouldn’t trust him on a sgw but on a dgw where he’s likely to get 3 opportunities, more than likely 4 to score, at under 100k. In addition he’s a good fielder. The dual is handy as well.
Marsh bowled plenty of overs last year as the 6th bowler, Turner wasn’t afraid to have the big guns lose overs. They are also well established, so if the game is won early I can see Hardie getting extra overs.
Marsh bowled plenty of overs last year as the 6th bowler, Turner wasn’t afraid to have the big guns lose overs. They are also well established, so if the game is won early I can see Hardie getting extra overs.
Hardie finally might get the opportunity to actually show how good he is.
Good judges have him playing for Australia in the next 12-18 months (if not sooner) , I am a bad judge but potentially have him as being Player of the BBL.
Ideal linkage with Agar & Connolly so could be that perfect bench playing swingman , especially if they do manage Richardson.
Just need to weigh him up against the likes of Hosein , Mujeeb , Neser , Swepson etc + Bat only players (similar price) and see how he fits into people's structures.
What works for some doesn't work for others.
Only have to look back to last season and guys like Kerr , Rogers , M Short to see what happens when you get the opportunity.
Good judges have him playing for Australia in the next 12-18 months (if not sooner) , I am a bad judge but potentially have him as being Player of the BBL.
Ideal linkage with Agar & Connolly so could be that perfect bench playing swingman , especially if they do manage Richardson.
Just need to weigh him up against the likes of Hosein , Mujeeb , Neser , Swepson etc + Bat only players (similar price) and see how he fits into people's structures.
What works for some doesn't work for others.
Only have to look back to last season and guys like Kerr , Rogers , M Short to see what happens when you get the opportunity.
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He is in the XI now , that's the first hurdle overcome.
Bison is a huge loss , so the opportunity is certainly there.
No Munro & Evans as well , on paper their batting line-up looks weakened.
Patterson left.
Obviously du Plessis makes a huge difference at the top of the order , 38 now , does he have the same drive/hunger as to when he was playing International cricket ?
Confirmation of their new OS would be nice.
Willing to back him in and see what happens , if it doesn't work I will just trade him out.
Reward far outweighs the risk in my opinion
Bison is a huge loss , so the opportunity is certainly there.
No Munro & Evans as well , on paper their batting line-up looks weakened.
Patterson left.
Obviously du Plessis makes a huge difference at the top of the order , 38 now , does he have the same drive/hunger as to when he was playing International cricket ?
Confirmation of their new OS would be nice.
Willing to back him in and see what happens , if it doesn't work I will just trade him out.
Reward far outweighs the risk in my opinion
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This is where the chat about Hardie moving up the order has come from.
HP GM Kade Harvey on Hardie
"We think Aaron Hardie could play a bigger role with the bat, so that’s always been in the back of our minds."
I can see them lining up something like this
Inglis, Banton/Roy, Faf, Hardie, Turner, Hobson
Surely Bancroft gets a spot? but where does he fit in. maybe opens till an overseas signing arrives.
or this I think they are struggling to get a top order batman replacement like a Roy/Banton and might have to settle for an All-rounder who bats at 6 hence the chat of Hardie moving up the order maybe and would like up like this
Inglis, Bancroft, Faf, Hardie, Turner, New signing
HP GM Kade Harvey on Hardie
"We think Aaron Hardie could play a bigger role with the bat, so that’s always been in the back of our minds."
I can see them lining up something like this
Inglis, Banton/Roy, Faf, Hardie, Turner, Hobson
Surely Bancroft gets a spot? but where does he fit in. maybe opens till an overseas signing arrives.
or this I think they are struggling to get a top order batman replacement like a Roy/Banton and might have to settle for an All-rounder who bats at 6 hence the chat of Hardie moving up the order maybe and would like up like this
Inglis, Bancroft, Faf, Hardie, Turner, New signing
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