2023: SC Planning Thread

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Go to nmfc.com.au and you will find an analysis of the training sessions involving match simulation since the new year. You'll be able to see who played and where, and also who sat out.

e.g. https://www.nmfc.com.au/news/1268596/training-report-recruit-returns-in-match-sim-young-mid-shines
Impressive from the first bounce was Tom Powell, who was absent from last week's main session. The 20-year-old garnered two quick clearances to start the contest and was lively for the rest of the match, often being one of the players to drive his team forward from the centre.
In what is clearly the seconds group though, so hard to see who he's pushing out.


They may be changing it up but I would have thought Gardiner,Andrews and Payne all play and Joyce is their depth option with Adams out indefinitely, they like that 3 tall structure.

Does look like Rayner down back is going to stick so have to include him in their defence, likely Answerth that falls out.

Starcevich and Rich take the other two starting positions, Coleman then will be the 7th defender, I'm still struggling to comprehend where the hell the spot for McKenna and Wilmot is coming from at full strength, hope I'm wrong though as we really need at least 1 of them.
Rayner probably as the 3rd tall makes sense, he's always been oversized so should have the strength to play it and is good in the air, would be a bit short against some teams and may be that they bring in a taller player for those matchups.

But yeah, that's basically the best case for McKenna sticking in the best 22. Wilmot and Tunstill pretty much seem to be playing for the 3rd winger role, would think that Wilmot being capable of also covering in defense is advantageous.

Struggle to fit them into the side though. Always is this time of year when looking for rookies. Generally if they're breaking into strong sides though it's a good sign.
 
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both Wilmot and McKenna should be best 22 as they have what Brisbane don't have that much of which is pace in an otherwise slow team

hopefully the match committee will agree with me and everyone on here and play both of them

and hopefully Fagan won't be as big headed about not playing both as he was with playing Lyons every week when he was clearly injured even though he was a much needed inside midfielder he should have been out the side for Robertson a lot earlier
 
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both Wilmot and McKenna should be best 22 as they have what Brisbane don't have that much of which is pace in an otherwise slow team

hopefully the match committee will agree with me and everyone on here and play both of them

and hopefully Fagan won't be as big headed about not playing both as he was with playing Lyons every week when he was clearly injured even though he was a much needed inside midfielder he should have been out the side for Robertson a lot earlier
I just go on their prelim final side as a rough guide which was essentially their best 22 with such a small injury list plus take into consideration Ashcroft and Dunkley have to come in when the only obvious change is Gunston replacing McStay, who is McKenna jumping to get into the side considering 2 other pretty good players also have to make way yet?
 
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using the disgraceful team that turned up on prelim final night as an example I and hopefully Fagan would go

In-Effort,Mckenna,Ashcroft,Gunston and Dunkley

Out-Pathetic Effort,Mathieson,Ahchee,Answerth and Mcstay

Problem with Answerth is Fagan LOVES him but is injured at the moment so hopefully Mckenna will be able to make up for his love of Answerth
 
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Ah Chee is the very obvious out, let's call him Ashcroft.

Robertson is an obvious out, he's just a poor man's Dunkley anyway.

Wilmot was already in that side, so that helps, but he's an obvious spot.

Answerth is another who should be at high risk and I'd say McKenna when fit has been a markedly better player, which for a coach under extreme pressure this year is going to be important.

If Rayner is going to defense then it could also be at the expense of one of Payne/Gardiner, which then opens another spot up forward.

Lyons the obvious name missing from that side who also probably slots in.

Done a Lions team somewhere else already but I think there's effectively 1-2 spots for Wilmot, McKenna and several others to squeeze into right now.

How big they go in defense and whether they go two rucks are both huge dynamics as well.

I think there's about equal cases for the yay and nay for both McKenna and Wilmot. I think they should play both though as I rate them higher than Ah Chee and Answerth at the very least.

If they win the spots, I think you back their talent in though as they'll have strong roles with good scoring potential and the ability to hold the spots.
 
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Ok, we have 4 midpricers with high ownership.
Fyfe-cheapest of this mob, Yeo,Hopper,Ziebell.

Who do we need to have, how many can we fade.
All can be picked as a defensive play, but is that a reason to select any of them? Maybe one becomes a keeper.
 
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Ok, we have 4 midpricers with high ownership.
Fyfe-cheapest of this mob, Yeo,Hopper,Ziebell.

Who do we need to have, how many can we fade.
All can be picked as a defensive play, but is that a reason to select any of them? Maybe one becomes a keeper.
Keeper wise, IMO only Yeo in defence and Ziebell as DEF/FWD is any chance. Hopper definately no, Fyfe no and a big injury/rest candidate.

Based on that, and I know cash generation plays a part also but Yeo..................................(that's daylight), Ziebell (role depending), Hopper and Fyfe.

At this stage I'm taking Yeo but the other 3 are in and out depending on other needs
 
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Ok, we have 4 midpricers with high ownership.
Fyfe-cheapest of this mob, Yeo,Hopper,Ziebell.

Who do we need to have, how many can we fade.
All can be picked as a defensive play, but is that a reason to select any of them? Maybe one becomes a keeper.
I’m currently fading Fyfe and and planning to use the other 3 as stepping cows. I agree that “maybe” one could be a keeper, but I think that is only 50/50.
 
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16 x $ 123,900.00 rookies essentially is $ 2 million

Living in dream world if we get 16 named for Round 1.

$ 8,000,000.00 for 14 premiums is about $ 571k ish.

Good luck buying (proven) defender & mid premiums for that price.

Obviously using the likes of Grundy , Marshall , Rozee , Taranto etc price types allows adjustments.

Simple mathematics really if we don't get 16 starting cheap rookies we all need to use mid pricers in our starting structures/teams.

34 days time we can actually lock it all in
Yes but at 12 premos it's 638k a number I can work with!
 
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Yes but at 12 premos it's 638k a number I can work with!
Between 11-12 premiums is doable, the only thing is you start to lose those mid pricers who are highly likely to make money (not keepers) or lose better quality rookies. 11 premiums currently sees me with only 5 players (3 in def, 1 ruck, 1 fwd) under $158k which gives me flexibility if cheap sub rookies are all there is at that level.
 
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Ok, we have 4 midpricers with high ownership.
Fyfe-cheapest of this mob, Yeo,Hopper,Ziebell.

Who do we need to have, how many can we fade.
All can be picked as a defensive play, but is that a reason to select any of them? Maybe one becomes a keeper.
I’m currently fading Fyfe and and planning to use the other 3 as stepping cows. I agree that “maybe” one could be a keeper, but I think that is only 50/50.
What's Sheed ownership like? I am running 4 of these 5 and come preseason game if Milera knocks out a 100 that will be a choice between 6. Think at this stage fading between Fyfe vs Ziebell depending on Ziebell kick in level given Fyfe frees up $40k with the difference currently allowing a Green over Rozee pick or 1 better rookie choice ($600 left in the bank).
 
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What's Sheed ownership like? I am running 4 of these 5 and come preseason game if Milera knocks out a 100 that will be a choice between 6. Think at this stage fading between Fyfe vs Ziebell depending on Ziebell kick in level given Fyfe frees up $40k with the difference currently allowing a Green over Rozee pick or 1 better rookie choice ($600 left in the bank).
Sheed's ownership is 8%. For me it's a choice of Taranto & Sheed v Freoshaw & Ziebell, currently going with the 2nd option but could easily drop Brayshaw to Sheed and shore up my defence, would push Hopper to M5.
Structure is 11-5-6 with McKenna & McLean part of the 6
 
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Sheed's ownership is 8%. For me it's a choice of Taranto & Sheed v Freoshaw & Ziebell, currently going with the 2nd option but could easily drop Brayshaw to Sheed and shore up my defence, would push Hopper to M5.
Structure is 11-5-6 with McKenna & McLean part of the 6
I don't think 10 premiums is outrageous. Taranto more likely top 6 than Brayshaw top 8 is how zi would prioritise a choice around them.

Ziebell is a thorn in our side as his price starts to heavily impact structure. My 11th premium currently is Green or Rozee if I dont have three premium defenders. I would rather cut back a Jai Culley who I have to upgrade a Fyfe to Ziebell rather than downgrade a premium.
 
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I don't think 10 premiums is outrageous. Taranto more likely top 6 than Brayshaw top 8 is how zi would prioritise a choice around them.

Ziebell is a thorn in our side as his price starts to heavily impact structure. My 11th premium currently is Green or Rozee if I dont have three premium defenders. I would rather cut back a Jai Culley who I have to upgrade a Fyfe to Ziebell rather than downgrade a premium.
I find it very hard to get that 11th premium in without feeling like I'm either fielding too many rookies that I just dont expect to be very good or having to downgrade a premium I prefer to start to a cheaper option to free up some cash, its tough this year with so many mid pricers that are relevant north of 250K and top line midfield premiums just about more expensive than ever.
 
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I find it very hard to get that 11th premium in without feeling like I'm either fielding too many rookies that I just dont expect to be very good or having to downgrade a premium I prefer to start to a cheaper option to free up some cash, its tough this year with so many mid pricers that are relevant north of 250K and top line midfield premiums just about more expensive than ever.
11 premiums and four on field rookies (including McLean) is doable if you don't overspend on starting all of Laird, Oliver, Miller etc.
 
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