Competitions 2022: IPL RDT Fantasy- Monday 11th of April 11:00pm AEST

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  • RD3: LUC double and GUJ bye

    Votes: 2 100.0%

  • RD4: No doubles and no byes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD5: GUJ & SRH double and DEL & LUC bye

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD6: No doubles and no byes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD7: DEL and RCB double

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD8: No doubles and no byes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD9: LUC double and KKR bye

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD10: LUC and MUM bye

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD11: No doubles and no byes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • RD12: MUM double and SRH bye

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    2
  • Poll closed .
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Darkie said:
- BBL: emergencies are selected
- IPL: no emergencies are selected, with the lowest bench score (that isn’t a zero) is used
- Implications: looping strategy differs ..

… might need a chopout from @Diabolical or @mike89 on this one?

Things that come to mind include preferred donut selection, risk of inadvertent donuts, taking advantage of the 0 bench score aspect, and anything specific to the VC/C loop.
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mike89 said:
For me, the main implications are:
- you actually need 2 donuts on the bat or bowl lines, but only 1 on the keeper line. For that reason the keeper donut is the most valuable one and one I would be prepared to even pay additional money for to make sure they have the right schedule. (The fact that you can basically pick a side full of premium players from the get go in IPL is its own consideration!)
- if you are prepared to run three, and potentially take two scores off the bench every round, it's important that you actually split them across various teams, because no team will be late in every round (even Rajasthan, who had an excellent looping schedule, had a first-in-round match in round 10). This should always ensure you have a late donut across every round and can actually utilise your loops.
- As for which players I like to look at the scores of, I have two main candidate types:
* Death bowlers. A death bowler is a good chance of a really good score because late wickets can fall in clumps, but they're also a really good chance of a zero if it goes against them, as their chances of ER are low and they typically don't get a bat. That effectively gets you a second chance at a loop. Probably isn't extremely necessary though aside from in the last round of the season where you're not compromising your wider team structure if you have more or less donuts. Bonus points if they also have BAT eligibility (as Harshal did) because then you can do it on both lines.
* Highly popular players. In AFL and other games the bench is typically used to get an unexpectedly good score on the field, but in such a volatile game I find it equally valuable, if not moreso, to get unexpectedly bad scores off the field. Russell is a prime candidate here if you look at Herbie's analysis: 5 tons and 6 scores under 25, as well as a lot of early games. If most players have him on field, you're potentially a good score ahead on his bad days and you keep up on his good days. The risk is not being able to VC them...
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I agree with Mike, particularly with putting more popular players on the bench. It is a tactic that I feel I have had success with on a few occasions, and so long as we have a loop option we can’t lose. (So long as when we choose not to take a 20 our replacement scores 5 - however, given we are only risking a minimal score the loss isn’t great)

Due to selecting emergencies in BBL I think we can get away with less donuts. However, the need or otherwise on any or how many will depend on the fixture and how many byes teams will have. The fixture, and planning around it, I think is the biggest thing to try and get right.

Another thing with BBL is to be prepared to mix the emergencies up. I think some people get stuck in a rut of having one emergency on each line. For example a bowling emergency might score a middling score like 40 in the first game. We could forgo an emergency on another line to get a look at another bowling emergency, then decide to take both scores, or none. This is safest if you can fill one of the other lines with early playing players given there will be no cover for a late out.
 
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Diabolical said:
I agree with Mike, particularly with putting more popular players on the bench. It is a tactic that I feel I have had success with on a few occasions, and so long as we have a loop option we can’t lose. (So long as when we choose not to take a 20 our replacement scores 5 - however, given we are only risking a minimal score the loss isn’t great)

Due to selecting emergencies in BBL I think we can get away with less donuts. However, the need or otherwise on any or how many will depend on the fixture and how many byes teams will have. The fixture, and planning around it, I think is the biggest thing to try and get right.

Another thing with BBL is to be prepared to mix the emergencies up. I think some people get stuck in a rut of having one emergency on each line. For example a bowling emergency might score a middling score like 40 in the first game. We could forgo an emergency on another line to get a look at another bowling emergency, then decide to take both scores, or none. This is safest if you can fill one of the other lines with early playing players given there will be no cover for a late out.
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Good info, thank you.

The trade update tool is also very handy, and somewhat reduces the risk from a late out.

I think it may pair well with a loop-oriented strategy.
 
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Herbie66 said:
@Darkie one of the major differences between IPL & the BBL , and probably the most important one is that the Indian internationals actually play the whole season , makes a hell of a difference to the standard.

Most teams probably have 4-5 quality local players (current & retired stars) + their 4 OS.
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This is a very good point.

The fact that so many players prioritise it over other commitments is very different from the BBL.

The evenness of quality within sides, and resulting lack of extremely attractive roles, was something I was trying to get at earlier but probably didn’t express that well.
 
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I received an email today from Sportsdeck, that they have finally brought out an App under Apple and Android. I downloaded it in the morning, but haven't had a chance to play around with it a lot. Still needs a bit of work, but, seems ok.
 
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