Discussion 2023 Finals Week 3: Teams & In Game Discussion
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VFL, SANFL and WAFL MATCHES
Smithy's VFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
Gold Coast v Werribee, Ikon Park, 3.10pm AEST
SANFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
Glenelg v Sturt, Adelaide Oval, 2.30pm ACST
WAFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
East Fremantle v Peel Thunder, Optus Stadium, 3.20pm AWST
Smithy's VFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
Gold Coast v Werribee, Ikon Park, 3.10pm AEST
SANFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
Glenelg v Sturt, Adelaide Oval, 2.30pm ACST
WAFL fixture, Grand Final
Sunday, September 24
East Fremantle v Peel Thunder, Optus Stadium, 3.20pm AWST
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TEAMS
COLLINGWOOD v GWS GIANTS
Friday September 22, 7.50pm at the MCG
PIES
B: Murphy, Moore, Quaynor
HB: Maynard, Pendlebury, Howe
C: Sidebottom, De Goey, J.Daicos
HF: Hill, Mihocek, Lipinski
F: Elliott, McStay, Hoskin-Elliott
FOL: Cox, McCreery, Crisp
I/C: Mitchell, Cameron, N.Daicos, Markov
EMG: Noble, Macrae, Frampton, Ginnivan
IN: N.Daicos
OUT: Adams (Injured), Ginnivan (Sub)
GIANTS
B: Buckley, Taylor, Idun
HB: Ash, Himmelberg, Whitfield
C: Callaghan, Green, Kelly
HF: Bedford, Riccardi, Daniels
F: Lloyd, Hogan, Greene
FOL: Briggs, Ward, Coniglio
I/C: Cumming, Perryman, Keeffe, Brown
EMG: Haynes, Angwin, O’Halloran, Preuss
IN: None
OUT: O’Halloran (Sub)
Subs & Late Changes
BRISBANE LIONS v CARLTON
Saturday September 23, 5.15pm at the Gabba
LIONS
B: Starcevich, Andrews, Gardiner
HB: McKenna, Lester, Coleman
C: McCluggage, Dunkley, Zorko
HF: Cameron, Hipwood, Bailey
F: Rayner, Daniher, Ah Chee
FOL: McInerney, Neale, Berry
I/C: Robertson, McCarthy, Fletcher, Wilmot
EMG: Lyons, Tunstill, Fort, Joyce
IN: Gardiner
OUT: Payne (Injured), Lyons (Sub)
BLUES
B: Cincotta, Weitering, Saad
HB: Marchbank, McGovern, Newman
C: Acres, Cripps, Hollands
HF: De Koning, McKay, Docherty
F: Fogarty, C.Curnow, Motlop
FOL: Pittonet, Cerra, Walsh
I/C: Boyd, Hewett, Cottrell, Martin
EMG: Cuningham, Kemp, Kennedy, Owies
IN: McKay, Boyd, Martin
OUT: Kemp, Owies, Kennedy, Cuningham (all omitted)
Subs & Late Changes
COLLINGWOOD v GWS GIANTS
Friday September 22, 7.50pm at the MCG
PIES
B: Murphy, Moore, Quaynor
HB: Maynard, Pendlebury, Howe
C: Sidebottom, De Goey, J.Daicos
HF: Hill, Mihocek, Lipinski
F: Elliott, McStay, Hoskin-Elliott
FOL: Cox, McCreery, Crisp
I/C: Mitchell, Cameron, N.Daicos, Markov
EMG: Noble, Macrae, Frampton, Ginnivan
IN: N.Daicos
OUT: Adams (Injured), Ginnivan (Sub)
GIANTS
B: Buckley, Taylor, Idun
HB: Ash, Himmelberg, Whitfield
C: Callaghan, Green, Kelly
HF: Bedford, Riccardi, Daniels
F: Lloyd, Hogan, Greene
FOL: Briggs, Ward, Coniglio
I/C: Cumming, Perryman, Keeffe, Brown
EMG: Haynes, Angwin, O’Halloran, Preuss
IN: None
OUT: O’Halloran (Sub)
Subs & Late Changes
BRISBANE LIONS v CARLTON
Saturday September 23, 5.15pm at the Gabba
LIONS
B: Starcevich, Andrews, Gardiner
HB: McKenna, Lester, Coleman
C: McCluggage, Dunkley, Zorko
HF: Cameron, Hipwood, Bailey
F: Rayner, Daniher, Ah Chee
FOL: McInerney, Neale, Berry
I/C: Robertson, McCarthy, Fletcher, Wilmot
EMG: Lyons, Tunstill, Fort, Joyce
IN: Gardiner
OUT: Payne (Injured), Lyons (Sub)
BLUES
B: Cincotta, Weitering, Saad
HB: Marchbank, McGovern, Newman
C: Acres, Cripps, Hollands
HF: De Koning, McKay, Docherty
F: Fogarty, C.Curnow, Motlop
FOL: Pittonet, Cerra, Walsh
I/C: Boyd, Hewett, Cottrell, Martin
EMG: Cuningham, Kemp, Kennedy, Owies
IN: McKay, Boyd, Martin
OUT: Kemp, Owies, Kennedy, Cuningham (all omitted)
Subs & Late Changes
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WHO IS a chance to play in the preliminary finals?
In this week's In the Mix we find the players who are giving their selectors plenty of food for thought.
Who's going out, who's sore, who is under the pump? Our reporters attempt to pick all the ins and outs for the preliminary finals. Check it out.
A few fitness issues and selection headaches loom for Lions coach Chris Fagan ahead of Saturday night's preliminary final against Carlton. Key defender Jack Payne is battling to overcome an ankle injury, with veteran Darcy Gardiner his likely replacement after being held out of the VFL team at the weekend. Darragh Joyce is another option. Jack Gunston is also closing in on being available after missing the past three matches with a knee problem should the Lions want a taller forward line, while Jarryd Lyons, who won the VFL's J.J Liston Trophy on Monday night, is waiting in the wings should another midfielder be needed. - Michael Whiting
QF sub: Jarryd Lyons (replaced Deven Robertson)
Jarryd Lyons during Brisbane training at Brighton Homes Arena on September 12, 2023. Picture: Getty Images/AFL Photos
The Blues will welcome back Jack Martin (suspension) and Harry McKay (concussion) for Saturday night's preliminary final against the Lions. It will make for a difficult selection call for coach Michael Voss. A taller forward line could spell unlucky news for Matt Kennedy and David Cuningham, with Jesse Motlop likely to hold his place after an impressive finals campaign. Zac Fisher and Jordan Boyd could be considered in a smaller backline to cope with the Lions' fleet of speedy forwards, but the Blues like the hybrid nature of their defensive mix and have been satisfied by Caleb Marchbank's ability to play tall or small. Jack Silvagni (knee) is available, while Sam Docherty (shoulder) and Blake Acres (collarbone) are expected to be fit. Ollie Hollands was fantastic as the tactical sub in the semi-final and could retain that position to add some flexibility and much-needed run off the bench. – Riley Beveridge
SF sub: Ollie Hollands (replaced David Cuningham)
Harry McKay and Jack Martin celebrate a goal against Richmond in round one, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Nick Daicos will return for Friday night's preliminary final after recovering from the knee injury that ended his home and away season in round 21. The extra week off has helped the All-Australian bank extra work ahead of the clash against GWS, with Taylor Adams to miss due to a hamstring strain. John Noble was incredibly stiff to miss out on the qualifying final and may be considered to play a role on the Giants' fleet of small forwards. Fin Macrae and Billy Frampton were both included in the 26-man squad against Melbourne. - Josh Gabelich
QF sub: Jack Ginnivan (replaced Darcy Cameron)
Nick Daicos tackles John Noble at Collingwood training on September 15, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
The Giants expect ruck Kieren Briggs (shoulder) to be fit to play in Friday night's preliminary final against the Magpies. In all likelihood, it will make for a relatively easy selection night for coach Adam Kingsley. The Giants are firing on all cylinders and have perhaps been September's form team, which could mean an unchanged side at the MCG. – Riley Beveridge
SF sub: Xavier O'Halloran (replaced Callum Brown)
Kieren Briggs leaves the ground with a shoulder injury during Greater Western Sydney's semi-final against Port Adelaide on September 16, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
In this week's In the Mix we find the players who are giving their selectors plenty of food for thought.
Who's going out, who's sore, who is under the pump? Our reporters attempt to pick all the ins and outs for the preliminary finals. Check it out.
A few fitness issues and selection headaches loom for Lions coach Chris Fagan ahead of Saturday night's preliminary final against Carlton. Key defender Jack Payne is battling to overcome an ankle injury, with veteran Darcy Gardiner his likely replacement after being held out of the VFL team at the weekend. Darragh Joyce is another option. Jack Gunston is also closing in on being available after missing the past three matches with a knee problem should the Lions want a taller forward line, while Jarryd Lyons, who won the VFL's J.J Liston Trophy on Monday night, is waiting in the wings should another midfielder be needed. - Michael Whiting
QF sub: Jarryd Lyons (replaced Deven Robertson)
Jarryd Lyons during Brisbane training at Brighton Homes Arena on September 12, 2023. Picture: Getty Images/AFL Photos
The Blues will welcome back Jack Martin (suspension) and Harry McKay (concussion) for Saturday night's preliminary final against the Lions. It will make for a difficult selection call for coach Michael Voss. A taller forward line could spell unlucky news for Matt Kennedy and David Cuningham, with Jesse Motlop likely to hold his place after an impressive finals campaign. Zac Fisher and Jordan Boyd could be considered in a smaller backline to cope with the Lions' fleet of speedy forwards, but the Blues like the hybrid nature of their defensive mix and have been satisfied by Caleb Marchbank's ability to play tall or small. Jack Silvagni (knee) is available, while Sam Docherty (shoulder) and Blake Acres (collarbone) are expected to be fit. Ollie Hollands was fantastic as the tactical sub in the semi-final and could retain that position to add some flexibility and much-needed run off the bench. – Riley Beveridge
SF sub: Ollie Hollands (replaced David Cuningham)
Harry McKay and Jack Martin celebrate a goal against Richmond in round one, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
Nick Daicos will return for Friday night's preliminary final after recovering from the knee injury that ended his home and away season in round 21. The extra week off has helped the All-Australian bank extra work ahead of the clash against GWS, with Taylor Adams to miss due to a hamstring strain. John Noble was incredibly stiff to miss out on the qualifying final and may be considered to play a role on the Giants' fleet of small forwards. Fin Macrae and Billy Frampton were both included in the 26-man squad against Melbourne. - Josh Gabelich
QF sub: Jack Ginnivan (replaced Darcy Cameron)
Nick Daicos tackles John Noble at Collingwood training on September 15, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
The Giants expect ruck Kieren Briggs (shoulder) to be fit to play in Friday night's preliminary final against the Magpies. In all likelihood, it will make for a relatively easy selection night for coach Adam Kingsley. The Giants are firing on all cylinders and have perhaps been September's form team, which could mean an unchanged side at the MCG. – Riley Beveridge
SF sub: Xavier O'Halloran (replaced Callum Brown)
Kieren Briggs leaves the ground with a shoulder injury during Greater Western Sydney's semi-final against Port Adelaide on September 16, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
CARLTON has dropped four players from its starting 22 to face Brisbane in Saturday night's preliminary final, while the Lions will be without big defender Jack Payne.
Collingwood's second-year superstar Nick Daicos returns for the injured Taylor Adams, as expected, while Greater Western Sydney will take an unchanged starting line-up into Friday night's sold-out clash at the MCG.
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The big news is at the Blues, who welcome back power forward Harry McKay (concussion) and Jack Martin (suspension). They have also recalled defender Jordan Boyd and brought last week's sub Ollie Hollands into the starting side.
The unlucky quartet making way are Matt Kennedy, Matt Owies and David Cuningham, as well as defender Brodie Kemp. All four have been named as emergencies, with one to play the substitute's role against the Lions.
PRELIMINARY FINAL
MEGA-PREVIEW: Lions v Blues, stats that matter, who wins and why
There is no room for Jack Silvagni, who passed a fitness test ahead of the semi-final win against Melbourne but was deemed not 'ready to play' by coach Michael Voss last week.
Brisbane has resisted the temptation to bring in three-time premiership player Jack Gunston, instead recalling Darcy Gardiner to replace the injured Payne, who has been battling an ankle complaint.
PRELIMINARY FINAL
MEGA-PREVIEW: Magpies v Giants, stats that matter, who wins and why
Daicos comes into the side for his first game since round 21 after recovering from a hairline fracture in his knee.
Adams will miss with a hamstring injury and is no certainty to be fit for the Grand Final should the Magpies down the Giants.
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Footy Feed: Carlton's blueprint, Kingsley's message for Fly, landmark deal
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FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 22
Collingwood v Greater Western Sydney at the MCG, 7.50pm AEST
COLLINGWOOD
In: N.Daicos
Out: T.Adams (hamstring), J.Ginnivan (sub)
QF sub: Jack Ginnivan
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
In: Nil
Out: X.O'Halloran (sub)
SF sub: Xavier O'Halloran
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 23
Brisbane v Carlton at the Gabba, 5.15pm AEST
BRISBANE
In: D.Gardiner
Out: J.Payne (ankle), J.Lyons (sub)
QF sub: Jarryd Lyons
CARLTON
In: H.McKay, J.Boyd, J.Martin
Out: B.Kemp (omitted), M.Owies (omitted), M.Kennedy (omitted), D.Cuningham (omitted)
SF sub: Ollie Hollands
Collingwood's second-year superstar Nick Daicos returns for the injured Taylor Adams, as expected, while Greater Western Sydney will take an unchanged starting line-up into Friday night's sold-out clash at the MCG.
>> KEEP SCROLLING OR CLICK HERE TO SEE THE FULL TEAMS AND EMERGENCIES
The big news is at the Blues, who welcome back power forward Harry McKay (concussion) and Jack Martin (suspension). They have also recalled defender Jordan Boyd and brought last week's sub Ollie Hollands into the starting side.
The unlucky quartet making way are Matt Kennedy, Matt Owies and David Cuningham, as well as defender Brodie Kemp. All four have been named as emergencies, with one to play the substitute's role against the Lions.
PRELIMINARY FINAL
MEGA-PREVIEW: Lions v Blues, stats that matter, who wins and why
There is no room for Jack Silvagni, who passed a fitness test ahead of the semi-final win against Melbourne but was deemed not 'ready to play' by coach Michael Voss last week.
Brisbane has resisted the temptation to bring in three-time premiership player Jack Gunston, instead recalling Darcy Gardiner to replace the injured Payne, who has been battling an ankle complaint.
PRELIMINARY FINAL
MEGA-PREVIEW: Magpies v Giants, stats that matter, who wins and why
Daicos comes into the side for his first game since round 21 after recovering from a hairline fracture in his knee.
Adams will miss with a hamstring injury and is no certainty to be fit for the Grand Final should the Magpies down the Giants.
08:07
3 hrs
Footy Feed: Carlton's blueprint, Kingsley's message for Fly, landmark deal
The Footy Feed team with all the latest news
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 22
Collingwood v Greater Western Sydney at the MCG, 7.50pm AEST
COLLINGWOOD
In: N.Daicos
Out: T.Adams (hamstring), J.Ginnivan (sub)
QF sub: Jack Ginnivan
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
In: Nil
Out: X.O'Halloran (sub)
SF sub: Xavier O'Halloran
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 23
Brisbane v Carlton at the Gabba, 5.15pm AEST
BRISBANE
In: D.Gardiner
Out: J.Payne (ankle), J.Lyons (sub)
QF sub: Jarryd Lyons
CARLTON
In: H.McKay, J.Boyd, J.Martin
Out: B.Kemp (omitted), M.Owies (omitted), M.Kennedy (omitted), D.Cuningham (omitted)
SF sub: Ollie Hollands
