Hey mate - yeah the rookies are just place holders but I generally like to build my time with cash in those spots, as it's a lot easier to free up cash going down to cheaper rookies than to break my structure to find cash for the more expensive ones. I often see teams this time of year that are stacked with $102k players and while it looks good to have that extra premium, it's never sustainable!
Discussion 2023: Rate My Team
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Churning through combinations and currently looking at this. Not sure what to make of it. Sometimes I really like it, other times I think it is meh. Rookies are just guess work really. Def -Yeo subject to being fit. Richards to continue with the form from the end of last year. Mids -hoping for Green and Warner to go 110 ish. Hopper a stepping stone and because everyone else will have him. Culley to play in the mids and get time to develop. Rucks- what a horrible year. Witts expensive and not sure how much upside. English one head knock and he is gone for extended weeks based on his concussion history. Cameron in the mix somewhere but is he fully fit? Preseason watch. Forwards- Fyfe only if perfect pre season. Thomas only if he is in the rebounding half back role and his off field escapades don’t cause issues.
Sitting on this currently, works well for bye structure/ balance :-
Defenders
Tossing up between Stewart/Docherty/Dawson/Sicily for D1. Gone for Stewart currently with his ability to go massive & his bye is appealing.
Daicos is such a jet, can see him going 110+ this year
Real risk with Yeo but the can't ignore his scoring potential when fit.
Goater/Ginbey/Wilmot all having great preseasons. Allison a real chance with saints injury issues.
Mids
Gone with Oliver/Miller/Bont as my big 3. Durable/ high ceiling - Bont could really be the one that benefits the most with no Dunkley.
LDU & Green are the 2 value premium mids I like - both coming into their prime, main men in the middle for their teams now.
Hopper offers real value - great stepping stone to say Laird at his bye (tigers bye round 15, crows round 14) - Rookies quite standard.
Rucks
Marshall the only one I really like tbh. Grundy has real upside, with Gawn currently injured I think the bearded god will be eased into the season with Grundy doing most of the rucking. Looked at Cameron for a long time but have real doubts on the pies setup - if just McStay named round 1 no Cox then he appeals but if all 3 named I can't see him scoring high enough.
Forwards
Dunkley/Rozee/Taranto the 3 standouts for me. Cogs the only other one I considered.
Fyfe I really debated about but he is going to be very popular with the masses so if he does start well & you don't have him it could really hurt, so almost safeguarding myself really.
Allen - great job security, the main man post JK.
McLean - standard.
Rookies - JVR is a WA kid with huge talent, Dees need a young key fwd to stand up, I think this kid is the one for the job.Drury getting rave reviews from north training, playing a great role - real chance of round 1.
No doubt many changes to come but happy with this leading into preseason games.
Defenders
Tossing up between Stewart/Docherty/Dawson/Sicily for D1. Gone for Stewart currently with his ability to go massive & his bye is appealing.
Daicos is such a jet, can see him going 110+ this year
Real risk with Yeo but the can't ignore his scoring potential when fit.
Goater/Ginbey/Wilmot all having great preseasons. Allison a real chance with saints injury issues.
Mids
Gone with Oliver/Miller/Bont as my big 3. Durable/ high ceiling - Bont could really be the one that benefits the most with no Dunkley.
LDU & Green are the 2 value premium mids I like - both coming into their prime, main men in the middle for their teams now.
Hopper offers real value - great stepping stone to say Laird at his bye (tigers bye round 15, crows round 14) - Rookies quite standard.
Rucks
Marshall the only one I really like tbh. Grundy has real upside, with Gawn currently injured I think the bearded god will be eased into the season with Grundy doing most of the rucking. Looked at Cameron for a long time but have real doubts on the pies setup - if just McStay named round 1 no Cox then he appeals but if all 3 named I can't see him scoring high enough.
Forwards
Dunkley/Rozee/Taranto the 3 standouts for me. Cogs the only other one I considered.
Fyfe I really debated about but he is going to be very popular with the masses so if he does start well & you don't have him it could really hurt, so almost safeguarding myself really.
Allen - great job security, the main man post JK.
McLean - standard.
Rookies - JVR is a WA kid with huge talent, Dees need a young key fwd to stand up, I think this kid is the one for the job.Drury getting rave reviews from north training, playing a great role - real chance of round 1.
No doubt many changes to come but happy with this leading into preseason games.
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Loving the pre-season teams and still working on mine will share soon.
However there's this one guy, an absolute SC pig, you may have heard of him who I am yet to see in a single side.
Lachie Neale, 2015-22 has averaged 104 113 109 112 121 134 100 123. Are we will discounting him because of age? Dunkley effect? something else? For the record I also am not considering him. And I have no idea why.
This probably belongs in the Midfielder discussion so mods feel free to move if so!
However there's this one guy, an absolute SC pig, you may have heard of him who I am yet to see in a single side.
Lachie Neale, 2015-22 has averaged 104 113 109 112 121 134 100 123. Are we will discounting him because of age? Dunkley effect? something else? For the record I also am not considering him. And I have no idea why.
This probably belongs in the Midfielder discussion so mods feel free to move if so!
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Good to be back! I'm liking the look of this set up at the moment
BACKS : I'm tipping Sicily and Doch to be the top 2 defenders this year. I think Sinclair will get a bit more attention and will be able to pick him up cheaper. Bailey Dale is consistent and durable. There's not too much variance between his best and worst scores, set and forget type. Vlaustin is slightly underpriced with an injury affected game, averaged 103.3 taking that game out. He's capable of the odd monster score and am bullish on him as a pod to get an early kick start.
MIDS : Starting Dunkley in the mids. I've got DPP options up forward in Fyfe, Windhager and McLean to make some earlier jumps to uber mid premos that have price drops. The Tom's (Mitchell and Green) I am tipping both to go 110+ this year with more mid minutes and new team, both priced around 90, there's excellent value there for mine. Macrae I want, but am concerned about limited captain options early having the Bont in there as well. So it's possible Macrae becomes Touk Miller or A Brayshaw.
RUCK : I hope I can hold firm on Darcy. He's my pick for #1 ruck this year. I am picking Jackson forward so I can bring him over to the Ruck line if Darcy were to get injured, then Jackson becomes #1 ruck for Freo. Jackson has shown enough for me to suggest he can be a decent F6 as a secondary ruckman / young forward with natural improvement. I'm going to take a punt on Draper, love the way he goes about it, very talented player. He just needs to get more of the ball. Last year when he was under 10 disposals he averaged 54 (from 11 games) and over 10 touches his average jumped to 91 (11 games). The bombers had an external review where one point raised was lack of fitness so that has been a focus this pre-season and reports I've seen on Draper have been very positive. Added fitness, 4th year with natural improvement, priced at 72 avg, I'll back him in. If it fails I've got enough trades to observe the standout best ruck and trade up.
FORWARD : Personally don't see the love for Taranto in SC format. Fyfe would be nice if he can be a D6 and stay fit, but more so I am planning for some early cash gen and use for early upgrades, same as Windhager and McLean. I don't think not starting Coniglio is going to hurt me too much and there really isn't any forwards I feel I need to have in my team at least early on so I'm prepared to go lighter on this line.
Rookies as always will change around.
BACKS : I'm tipping Sicily and Doch to be the top 2 defenders this year. I think Sinclair will get a bit more attention and will be able to pick him up cheaper. Bailey Dale is consistent and durable. There's not too much variance between his best and worst scores, set and forget type. Vlaustin is slightly underpriced with an injury affected game, averaged 103.3 taking that game out. He's capable of the odd monster score and am bullish on him as a pod to get an early kick start.
MIDS : Starting Dunkley in the mids. I've got DPP options up forward in Fyfe, Windhager and McLean to make some earlier jumps to uber mid premos that have price drops. The Tom's (Mitchell and Green) I am tipping both to go 110+ this year with more mid minutes and new team, both priced around 90, there's excellent value there for mine. Macrae I want, but am concerned about limited captain options early having the Bont in there as well. So it's possible Macrae becomes Touk Miller or A Brayshaw.
RUCK : I hope I can hold firm on Darcy. He's my pick for #1 ruck this year. I am picking Jackson forward so I can bring him over to the Ruck line if Darcy were to get injured, then Jackson becomes #1 ruck for Freo. Jackson has shown enough for me to suggest he can be a decent F6 as a secondary ruckman / young forward with natural improvement. I'm going to take a punt on Draper, love the way he goes about it, very talented player. He just needs to get more of the ball. Last year when he was under 10 disposals he averaged 54 (from 11 games) and over 10 touches his average jumped to 91 (11 games). The bombers had an external review where one point raised was lack of fitness so that has been a focus this pre-season and reports I've seen on Draper have been very positive. Added fitness, 4th year with natural improvement, priced at 72 avg, I'll back him in. If it fails I've got enough trades to observe the standout best ruck and trade up.
FORWARD : Personally don't see the love for Taranto in SC format. Fyfe would be nice if he can be a D6 and stay fit, but more so I am planning for some early cash gen and use for early upgrades, same as Windhager and McLean. I don't think not starting Coniglio is going to hurt me too much and there really isn't any forwards I feel I need to have in my team at least early on so I'm prepared to go lighter on this line.
Rookies as always will change around.
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Agree with downgrading Richards to a rookie like Coffield or someone else and upgrading Worpel. Part of that is I think he’s too high risk for his price, but plenty to to play out there.
Don’t mind CMac pick because someone needs to score mid pts at the Hawks and he has passed the eye test way better than Worpel has recently. Let’s see if he gets a good role because he looked impressive in the small moments he had a go last year.
Flanders I think will improve if he’s getting mid time but if he’s only getting like 40% inside mid and playing wing/HF the rest I wonder what he’ll average because he looked poor in a wing/HF role last year. Suns run a pretty tight mid rotation. Absolutely dominated VFL playing midfield last year but form failed to really translate to a non-midfield role in the AFL
Like the rest of the side but those are queries
FWIW sub risk is a bit overblown, we already had a sub risk last year with players going on and teams are unlikely to sub out a player very early for tactical reasons most of the time in case of injury. We’ll probably cop that at some stage but doubt it will happen a significant numbers of times
Don’t mind CMac pick because someone needs to score mid pts at the Hawks and he has passed the eye test way better than Worpel has recently. Let’s see if he gets a good role because he looked impressive in the small moments he had a go last year.
Flanders I think will improve if he’s getting mid time but if he’s only getting like 40% inside mid and playing wing/HF the rest I wonder what he’ll average because he looked poor in a wing/HF role last year. Suns run a pretty tight mid rotation. Absolutely dominated VFL playing midfield last year but form failed to really translate to a non-midfield role in the AFL
Like the rest of the side but those are queries
FWIW sub risk is a bit overblown, we already had a sub risk last year with players going on and teams are unlikely to sub out a player very early for tactical reasons most of the time in case of injury. We’ll probably cop that at some stage but doubt it will happen a significant numbers of times
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As usual there are plenty of interesting mid-pricers to tempt me, so this is my first shot at cramming them all in for 2023 ($17K itb)
As with everyone else, the bench players are based on what we know or have heard at this early stage & will be changed as and when more pre-season info comes to hand.
DEF - obviously my weakest line. I can hope that there are 3 keepers in there, but..
MIDS - again I am much lighter here than most of the other teams that have come up so far. Bont & Cripps are still at their top, and I can foresee Smith & Warner reaching the top echelon (hopefully in 2023). I'm looking for Holmes, Hopper & Worpel to score around 95 and if so I'm getting a good bang for my buck there (about 90 free points a week). Potentially these 3 could be interchanged with T. Thomas, J. Berry or Menegola during pre-season fluctuations.
RUCKS - Draper is the one I am most uncertain of - I really expect the other MP's to outperfdorm their prices, but I'm just hoping here. The thinking is that at 24 he is a chance to significantly improve on the 72.5ppg he is priced at..
FWDS - I am investing more on this line and am aiming for 4/5 keepers. I am taking the risk on Dunkley - cant see any scope for improvement and there's the chance (and hope as a Doggies fan) that he doesnt work out as well at Brisbane.
As with everyone else, the bench players are based on what we know or have heard at this early stage & will be changed as and when more pre-season info comes to hand.
DEF - obviously my weakest line. I can hope that there are 3 keepers in there, but..
MIDS - again I am much lighter here than most of the other teams that have come up so far. Bont & Cripps are still at their top, and I can foresee Smith & Warner reaching the top echelon (hopefully in 2023). I'm looking for Holmes, Hopper & Worpel to score around 95 and if so I'm getting a good bang for my buck there (about 90 free points a week). Potentially these 3 could be interchanged with T. Thomas, J. Berry or Menegola during pre-season fluctuations.
RUCKS - Draper is the one I am most uncertain of - I really expect the other MP's to outperfdorm their prices, but I'm just hoping here. The thinking is that at 24 he is a chance to significantly improve on the 72.5ppg he is priced at..
FWDS - I am investing more on this line and am aiming for 4/5 keepers. I am taking the risk on Dunkley - cant see any scope for improvement and there's the chance (and hope as a Doggies fan) that he doesnt work out as well at Brisbane.
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Value.
I see plenty of scope for improvement in Rozee with his age (just turned 23), entering his 5th season and should be getting more mid minutes with less fwd rotations this year.
I don't think Cogs is a bad pick, I just don't see him as a starting must have with my structure with a lighter forward set up. The 44k difference in price is a factor as well if you're using it effectively elsewhere.
I see plenty of scope for improvement in Rozee with his age (just turned 23), entering his 5th season and should be getting more mid minutes with less fwd rotations this year.
I don't think Cogs is a bad pick, I just don't see him as a starting must have with my structure with a lighter forward set up. The 44k difference in price is a factor as well if you're using it effectively elsewhere.
