2023: SC Planning Thread
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One thing that really intruiges me going into next year is the ruck situation. You've got Gawn, Grundy, English and Darcy all getting less ruck time than 2022 (barring injuries). You've then got Witts coming off a 10 pt career best season as a recently turned 30 year old, who slowed down post-bye. We therefore need to look outside those 2022 Top 5 for av. Here are some earlier thoughts about some clubs/guys that intruige me that I feel have a narative to being a premium ruck.
- D Cameron (459k, 85) - Think theres upside worth picking here. Burst out when finally got the No 1 ruck role, then got tired and less of a ruck split as the year went on. Another preseason training in the role should hopefully develop ruckcraft further, as his work around the ground is ample to support a 100+ average, just needs the ruckwork to develop.
- Roma (500k, 92) - Will be very popular I feel, even if doesnt get R/F. No need to explain the narrative, everyone knows the situation. Hopefully Tom Campbell dies.
- Meek (425k, 78) - Those who have seen my previous posts will know how big I am on this guy, has all the attributes to be a premium ruck. My guy has gotten the move to the club that gives him the biggest chance to be the number 1 ruck for the next 5+ years, can't wait to see what he can do with opportunity.
-Ladhams (424k, 78) - Hickey got scorched in the granny and turns 32 in March. How long till the batten gets handed over? A few of my Swans fan friends think this o***eason. Having Dean Cox as your ruck coach is hopefully helping this guy develop ruckcraft, his around the ground work is fine. I've heard he is known to enjoy the off-field stuff a bit so can hopefully pull his head in...
Underpriced guys
-Lycett (377/69) , Hayes (355/65), Teakle (196/36) - Watching preseason with interest, fair bit of talk that Lycett is cooked, could pave the way for an underpriced guy to break out. Maybe not to premium areas but a nice stepping stone.
-Bailey Williams (300/55) - Feel sick saying this, but where on earth did the Rd 23 game come from? Need Nic Nat to die but its happened before...
- D Cameron (459k, 85) - Think theres upside worth picking here. Burst out when finally got the No 1 ruck role, then got tired and less of a ruck split as the year went on. Another preseason training in the role should hopefully develop ruckcraft further, as his work around the ground is ample to support a 100+ average, just needs the ruckwork to develop.
- Roma (500k, 92) - Will be very popular I feel, even if doesnt get R/F. No need to explain the narrative, everyone knows the situation. Hopefully Tom Campbell dies.
- Meek (425k, 78) - Those who have seen my previous posts will know how big I am on this guy, has all the attributes to be a premium ruck. My guy has gotten the move to the club that gives him the biggest chance to be the number 1 ruck for the next 5+ years, can't wait to see what he can do with opportunity.
-Ladhams (424k, 78) - Hickey got scorched in the granny and turns 32 in March. How long till the batten gets handed over? A few of my Swans fan friends think this o***eason. Having Dean Cox as your ruck coach is hopefully helping this guy develop ruckcraft, his around the ground work is fine. I've heard he is known to enjoy the off-field stuff a bit so can hopefully pull his head in...
Underpriced guys
-Lycett (377/69) , Hayes (355/65), Teakle (196/36) - Watching preseason with interest, fair bit of talk that Lycett is cooked, could pave the way for an underpriced guy to break out. Maybe not to premium areas but a nice stepping stone.
-Bailey Williams (300/55) - Feel sick saying this, but where on earth did the Rd 23 game come from? Need Nic Nat to die but its happened before...
Would you consider if 105+ to the bye round then a easy flip to a Laird or Touk.
I am also eager on Serong and Green. The MIdfield mix at GWS, Freo and the Hawks will be the ones i will be watching.
Any interest for Cerra next year, never really got going last year due to injury.
Stewart Sinclair Short Crisp
Oliver Dunkley Steele Walsh Titch Green Serong
Meek / PA or Swans (see what develops)
Taranto Moore?
I am also eager on Serong and Green. The MIdfield mix at GWS, Freo and the Hawks will be the ones i will be watching.
Any interest for Cerra next year, never really got going last year due to injury.
Stewart Sinclair Short Crisp
Oliver Dunkley Steele Walsh Titch Green Serong
Meek / PA or Swans (see what develops)
Taranto Moore?
I probably wouldn't, if he were in the low $400ks yeh. Will still be a pre-season watch for me but leaning towards a hard no right now. Hopper could go at 95 and start at only $330k, that would be better value.
I'm hoping Dunkley is mid only, everyone will have him otherwise and I think there is a lot of value premo fwd picks next season, Moore, Taranto, Rozee, Marshall, Himmelberg. Setterfield could be a mid price option, should play in his proper position.
Not going anywhere near Short and Crisp, specifically Short unless he is 100% confirmed for a backline spot for the whole season. I like Dawson over Sinclair, he is cheaper and for the first couple of months of the season he played in a less lucrative role before shifting to the backline where he really started to get going, so he is slightly unders. Sinclair had a great season but it looks like Ratts is going to get sacked, bit of instability there, really need to see what the pre-season brings but currently it's probably a no due to price.
I'm hoping Dunkley is mid only, everyone will have him otherwise and I think there is a lot of value premo fwd picks next season, Moore, Taranto, Rozee, Marshall, Himmelberg. Setterfield could be a mid price option, should play in his proper position.
Not going anywhere near Short and Crisp, specifically Short unless he is 100% confirmed for a backline spot for the whole season. I like Dawson over Sinclair, he is cheaper and for the first couple of months of the season he played in a less lucrative role before shifting to the backline where he really started to get going, so he is slightly unders. Sinclair had a great season but it looks like Ratts is going to get sacked, bit of instability there, really need to see what the pre-season brings but currently it's probably a no due to price.
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With hopper and taranto joining the tigers short could go back to his old role. Wouldnt take much to push him over 100+ average.
Dawson had him from the start last year didnt disapoint.
Hopper, yeap, if he is fit and gets the midfield role we all expect LOCK.
Crisp, plays every game and will bounce back. The finals series he did shine.
Yes Lots of value in the FWD Line, will see who gets the RK/FWD. English and Marshall will be popular
Dawson had him from the start last year didnt disapoint.
Hopper, yeap, if he is fit and gets the midfield role we all expect LOCK.
Crisp, plays every game and will bounce back. The finals series he did shine.
Yes Lots of value in the FWD Line, will see who gets the RK/FWD. English and Marshall will be popular
Potentially Short goes back, but he also played forward as well during the second half of the season.
Crisp's durability is a big tick but I don't think he will hurt if you don't have him, the second half of the season was painful. I would rather spend less and take a punt on Whitfield again if he's given a defined role conducive to SC scoring.
I think we will see a lot of teams start these two in the ruck line potentially if the other value fwd picks show enough in the pre-season. You would really want a playing R3 or an F/R in the forwards to cover them as both miss games. Tom Campbell is the major problem for Marshall, if he's played alongside him then Marshall is basically cooked as an selection.
Crisp's durability is a big tick but I don't think he will hurt if you don't have him, the second half of the season was painful. I would rather spend less and take a punt on Whitfield again if he's given a defined role conducive to SC scoring.
I think we will see a lot of teams start these two in the ruck line potentially if the other value fwd picks show enough in the pre-season. You would really want a playing R3 or an F/R in the forwards to cover them as both miss games. Tom Campbell is the major problem for Marshall, if he's played alongside him then Marshall is basically cooked as an selection.
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Is English really being considered?
Yes hes getting better every season, yes his scoring potential is amazing but as we have learnt he is made of glass and when he gets injured in a injury that would usually take other players a week to be back to tip top form, he takes weeks (plural) and even then its like injury still plays in his mind when hes back on field as he doesnt get back up to were he would be pre-injury
(Note, i am biased as i love his work and everything BUT he partially burnt me this year)
Yes hes getting better every season, yes his scoring potential is amazing but as we have learnt he is made of glass and when he gets injured in a injury that would usually take other players a week to be back to tip top form, he takes weeks (plural) and even then its like injury still plays in his mind when hes back on field as he doesnt get back up to were he would be pre-injury
(Note, i am biased as i love his work and everything BUT he partially burnt me this year)
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Richmond midfield rotation:
Still have to play: J. Ross, T. Sonsie, L.Baker before J.Short in the midfield
Supercoach:
- M. Pickett, T. Taranto, K. McIntosh, S. Bolton, D. Martin, D. Prestia, J. Hopper, L. Baker, J. Short, T. Cotchin, T. Sonsie, J. Graham, J.Ross
- M. Pickett & K. McIntosh
- S. Bolton & D. Martin (start forward)
- T. Cotchin (being managed)
- J.Graham (replaces Lambert)
- T.Taranto
- J. Hopper
- D. Prestia
Still have to play: J. Ross, T. Sonsie, L.Baker before J.Short in the midfield
Supercoach:
- T.Taranto was recruited to add some midfield grunt with Bolton and Martin holding down the forward role.
- J. Hopper has been added to provide centre clearance work and if he can stay fit will ease the workload on D. Prestia.
- The recruitment of T. Taranto and J. Hopper will provide a positive impact on the rebound from the halfbacks as opposition players will not be able to have free reign and waltz into the forwards unopposed from the centre breaks.
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I'll probably start English full well knowing he will be a trade at some point. He will be at a price where you should be able to sideways him to anyone bar Witts & Gawn off the bat. There should be more points up for grabs given he plays and with Dunkley/Hunter out. Off a full preseason he should be raring to go, there is value in the price given how he went after the flu/hammy/concussion. The main Issue I see with the English selection is the fear of him repeating his 2022 opening, and not owning.
Its been 5 years of most people going set and forget, 4/5 its been the strat, so its a bit of an adjustment period now. Forced trades in the ruck might be the new norm. We have an entire preseason to monitor a few guys to see if put their hand up, otherwise I'd feel forced into English.
Its been 5 years of most people going set and forget, 4/5 its been the strat, so its a bit of an adjustment period now. Forced trades in the ruck might be the new norm. We have an entire preseason to monitor a few guys to see if put their hand up, otherwise I'd feel forced into English.
