Richmond vs Collingwood
Watched 2.5 quarters, Pies not relevant with round 0 and was getting ugly!
General - Hard game to take much from for mine, epitome of bruise free footy by both sides, Pies basically put the foot down the first 5 minutes and the last 5 minutes of the first half but otherwise both teams were very content to avoid the idea of contact where possible. Low pressure helps the skills side.
Tigers - They've got some Melbourne at their worst vibes going on, the list is terrible so it's going to take some masterful coaching to not lose by 70+ most weeks. They did have some moments and they actually looked alright when they could lock it in the forward 50 and force scrambled clearing kicks but that's about it. Would actually be a pretty solid effort by any side that finishes below them this year.
Missing - Prestia, Ralphsmith, Smillie, Balta, Gibcus, Lynch, Lalor, Hotton - Yeah, a bunch of kids and the two old guys who miss 15 games a season, aka this is basically best 22.
Vlastuin - Standard role down back for him. Not really trying too hard. Should see a lot of supply.
Hopper - Pure midfield role, I mean he tried reasonably hard and he'll do that. He could almost be fantasy relevant just on the someone has to get the ball and someone has to tackle the other team theory but Tigers' fans would be praying that a couple of the kids can push him out of the main midfield group. Honestly not sure how many other sides he'd be getting a game with, basically a Will Brodie type but really shouldn't be a team's #2 mid.
Ross - And he was their #3 midfielder which is even scarier. Somehow, he's actually fantasy relevant in that role because the #3 mid will basically score 85 at every club and can go higher. He's such an ordinary player though I just can't believe they'd play him over any of the kids by round 10, albeit he can have done the job by then. He's a hard test on the "dont pick bad players" rule against the "pick guys with perfect roles that are cheap" rule!
Mansell - Their defacto full forward in this game, can't fault his game, he played very well and tried even harder. One of the few here who'd get a game at most clubs. Not fantasy relevant though. Loved his ground level pressure work.
Miller - KPD, he wasn't awful but he wasn't good. He's not relevant.
Taranto - Is their #1 mid, somehow the Tigers have created a scenario where Jack Ross is their "high skill" midfielder

. He's Taranto, he tries hard. He's probably fantasy relevant because he's going to likely get 25 chances a game to tackle at CB alone. He was solid and looks fit which is a positive and I mean it when I say he's actually a really decent value pick in the mids, a guy who isn't getting nearly the talk he should be, imo.
Short - Easily the Tigers best in the period I watched. Great role and will get absurd levels of supply I dare say. Played out the game. For mine he's what we think he is in this role. A 95-105 type guy who will have a couple of mares and a couple of blinders. At his price, with his bye, that's a good pick if he can stay healthy, which is admittedly a huge if at this point. Realistically given how underpriced he is, he only has to make it 6 rounds and not go down in Q1 if he's injured to be a good starting pick.
Rioli - I mean he tries hard and I like his pressure efforts. It would be better if he didn't actually try to get the ball for his side though!
Nankervis - Worked hard and was involved around the ground, I've done him dirty above, he's definitely the most skilled guy in their midfield group and I'm not sure you ever want your ruckman to be by far the best kick in your midfield! He looks fit and ready for a big year. I've said it in the ruck thread but I have that sneaky good pick feeling with him. I don't think I've got the balls but kudos anyone who does if it works!
Dow - Apparently, per the commentators, he's been masquerading as an AFL player for 6 years now. I feel like I've had about as much influence on an AFL field in that time. File him under the if I was a Richmond fan I'd hope the kids have forced him out by round 5 category. In that elite group of guys where I've watched him a lot and I'm still not sure what trait he had that got him drafted, like there are guys that can kick, or run, or tackle or find the ball or whatever where you're able to say "that's why they got drafted" even when they're no good, it's much rarer to be in that group where I can't work it out. Watch him go and have an excellent season now to prove me wrong
Brown - Good little player. Was solid in defense and good with the ball. Should have plenty to do this year. Too expensive for mine.
Ryan - Forward and ruck, he played fairly well. Think he's going to be a pretty good player long term. Would only be fantasy relevant if Nank out long term.
McIntosh - For all I've said above about their midfield, the most amazing thing is McIntosh as the #4 mid. He probably tries harder than all the rest of them but at some point you probably need to pick a mid that kicks it to the team he's playing for or really has any tangible skill beyond trying hard and being really, really good at running. I've never seen a coach go with the the only criteria I'm picking mids on is trying hard before so it's at least going to be a really interesting experiment to watch, watch it be sensational!
Armstrong - Big kid, moves well and had a couple of moments. Got abused in the ruck by Cameron but would think that Ryan will be the F50 ruck most of the time. Definitely a lot of potential, young KPF in a terrible looking side on the fringe of the best 22 is not fantasy relevant.
Broad - Solid and dependable down back.
Trezise - Played wing, played well. Love that he actually looks to take his time with the ball and find a teammate, as the only guy outside their ruckman across the midfield doing that it really was pronounced to see. There's a really good player here and hopefully gets plenty of chances. Super awkwardly priced but would be among the better options in that price range. He looked good enough in the contest that I'd be seeing if he can play midfield proper pretty soon. One to watch, definitely an intriguing option in draft formats.
Sonsie - Really solid game from him. Playing a pretty difficult HF role and it felt like he bobbed up in just about all their best passages. The price isn't unreasonable but that role is pretty difficult to score in consistently. Not the roaming HF that can be good but more anchored. Liked that he was composed with ball. Another I'd watch closely to see if he can take a genuine midfield role. Let's be honest even if they don't just burn out from lack of talent, that midfield is mad injury prone as well so minutes could open up.
Banks - Played HB as advertised. I don't know if he junked in the time I wasn't watching or if he just scored better than it felt like but was a bit surprised by how "well" he scored. I like him though and actually think he's a very good midprice option. Definitely one to watchlist for those playing in that Garcia minefield region as he could be the pick among it. Shame he's a mid instead of either DEF or FWD to start the year. FWD would give him some low end keeper prospects and DEF would give him genuine starting on field option value. MID it kind of feels a bit wasteful as think there's better options.
Bauer - One of their best. Great attack on the ball in the air and kept trying. He's very raw and very undersized but he gives it a fair crack. For mine he's the clear option to start in place of Balta for now and probably mobile enough that he could play alongside Balta/Lynch/Ryan. I like the look of him, bit of a young McStay about him.
Campbell - Role not as advertised, if he got midfield minutes I didn't notice it. Seemed to be stuck in a similar role to last year. It's amazing how fast that massive group of forward options went away this year
Blight - Was rock solid down back. He's not a great option to start but he's an option and that might be all we get this year down back. I think the 65 he averaged last year is a pretty reasonable target this year. Not a great role but will see plenty of it and he loves to intercept so that helps big time. Watchlist. Noted that FF have a shoulder knock next to him so something to watch out for also.
Green - Did some nice things up forward. If I'm saying Sonsie had a bad role, then his was even worse. Did a good job finding pockets to be dangerous. He's cheap enough to consider. From their respective roles, I'd probably pay the 30k extra for Sonsie but honestly, there's better options at this point in time. He's got some AFL qualities though and worth playing for the Tiges.