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BigRuss

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Not too much disagreement there ... almost everyone seemed to pick the same four players, and quite a few voted identically.
Yeah throw a blanket over those four if you ask me, only time will tell which one turns out the best.
 
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Not too much disagreement there ... almost everyone seemed to pick the same four players, and quite a few voted identically.
OK I am staggered Witherden did not received a single vote .
 

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Good to see the AFLW State of Origin game on tonight. Daisy Pearce on 25 or so at half time.
 
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Re Witherden. He is not Victorian and does not play for a Victorian based team. Means you are behind the 8 ball immediately.
will always be the case when a National comp is formed from essentially a State based competition.

Given 10 of the 18 teams are from one state , many WA, SA, NSW , QLD players have had amazing careers that probably have not been fully recognised by the Melbourne media.

eg Pavlich , Priddis, Robbie Gray, JPK , Zorko etc etc

interesting Hipwood got 5 votes
 

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Re Witherden. He is not Victorian and does not play for a Victorian based team. Means you are behind the 8 ball immediately.
14 of the 25 winners of the award have been at a non Victorian Club while 16 of 25 of them grew up outside of Victoria.
 

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14 of the 25 winners of the award have been at a non Victorian Club while 16 of 25 of them grew up outside of Victoria.
Don't confuse the situation, by presenting facts at us! :p
 
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Ablett won the Suns Best & Fairest despite missing 8 games.

I know he is a champion , but their playing list all need to have a good hard look at themselves and decide if they are fair dinkum or not.
 
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Ablett won the Suns Best & Fairest despite missing 8 games.

I know he is a champion , but their playing list all need to have a good hard look at themselves and decide if they are fair dinkum or not.
Also I hear that Witts didn't make the top 10. Someone please explain how that could be. Surely he was comfortably in their best 5 players, let alone 10 for the season.
 

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Also I hear that Witts didn't make the top 10. Someone please explain how that could be. Surely he was comfortably in their best 5 players, let alone 10 for the season.
It used to be a pretty common practice. If you had a bonus clause in your contract, that was triggered by a good B&F performance, the club would "make sure" you didn't get your bonus!
 

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Also I hear that Witts didn't make the top 10. Someone please explain how that could be. Surely he was comfortably in their best 5 players, let alone 10 for the season.
Ablett won the Suns Best & Fairest despite missing 8 games.

I know he is a champion , but their playing list all need to have a good hard look at themselves and decide if they are fair dinkum or not.
It used to be a pretty common practice. If you had a bonus clause in your contract, that was triggered by a good B&F performance, the club would "make sure" you didn't get your bonus!
Maybe the coaches just didn't give any votes some weeks!
What if an opposition player could win their B&F. They played Hawthorn twice, maybe Tom Mitchell was the real winner.
 

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Ablett won the Suns Best & Fairest despite missing 8 games.

I know he is a champion , but their playing list all need to have a good hard look at themselves and decide if they are fair dinkum or not.
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6-8 Gaz playing (90 for, 99 ag)
0-8 Gaz missing (61, 115)

Damning stats. Nothing's changed since their beginning.
 
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Also I hear that Witts didn't make the top 10. Someone please explain how that could be. Surely he was comfortably in their best 5 players, let alone 10 for the season.
Gold Coast's five-man match committee award a maximum of five votes each to an unlimited number of players each match, meaning the maximum votes a player can receive for any match is 25.

Top 10

1st – Gary Ablett 126
2nd – David Swallow 106
3rd – Jack Martin 104
4th – Tom Lynch 101
5th – Aaron Hall 97
6th – Jarryd Lyons 91
7th – Jarrod Harbrow 79
8th – Touk Miller 70
9th – Steven May 66
10th – Adam Saad 64
 
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Maybe the coaches just didn't give any votes some weeks!
What if an opposition player could win their B&F. They played Hawthorn twice, maybe Tom Mitchell was the real winner.
more likely it is in his contract that he gets votes even if he misses games.
 
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Swamp‏ @sirswampthing 1h1 hour ago
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6-8 Gaz playing (90 for, 99 ag)
0-8 Gaz missing (61, 115)

Damning stats. Nothing's changed since their beginning.
7 seasons in and looking no better and now likely the great Gazza will retire or leave ? (has he been holding the club back ? certainly can't question his perfromances on the field, but always been stories of different training standards, how he won't take supplements, injections for injuries ?

too many young players at the start, believing their own publicity at 19, too much money, too much time on their hands and caught up in the Gold Coast (party) style, sounds like it has been a 7 year schoolies week for many.

shocking injury run year after year, is this due to preparation and players lack of rehab/recovery.

Bennell, Dixon, O'Meara, Prestia , Smith all gone , love to see the turnover of players since the inception.

I remember they got Brennan and Fraser, Krakour ? think Rischitelli and Habrow were among the originals with Ablett.

be a huge worry if Lynch or May leave in the next year or so.
 

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Re Witherden. He is not Victorian and does not play for a Victorian based team. Means you are behind the 8 ball immediately.
The fact that SPP got max votes from the only 2 non Victorian judges backs this up immensely. As much as AFL is "Australia's game" it's still very much the VFL with some interstate clubs.
 

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The fact that SPP got max votes from the only 2 non Victorian judges backs this up immensely. As much as AFL is "Australia's game" it's still very much the VFL with some interstate clubs.
Do you think it's just Melbourne based judges believing the hype of the Melbourne centric media around Victorian clubs?
 

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Do you think it's just Melbourne based judges believing the hype of the Melbourne centric media around Victorian clubs?
Yeah probably mate. They write articles to sell papers, not many Victorians want to hear about the Crows or the Dockers and vice versa. When you get saturated by hype it surely affects your decision in the end. It is what it is ,McGrath a deserving winner IMO.
 
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