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Which team wins a final first?

  • Essendon

    Votes: 27 29.7%

  • Tasmania

    Votes: 64 70.3%
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Ironhawk

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I'm a bit mixed on these changes. Apparently the aim is to increase scoring? Not sure on that.

Moving the player on the mark at kick ins won't do it. Pointless.
Stopping players moving sideways on the mark won't do much, but I like the idea.
Not sure reducing interchanges will help scoring - it will just add to fatigue for players.

The rule proposed for the VFL I do sort of like, and I think it will help a bit, but I'd make it more extreme. Three players in each 50m and six in each half at all times (not just stoppages) would do a better job of reducing congestion. Any breach gives the opposition a shot at goals from 30-40m out directly in front. Umpires have enough to focus on, so have someone on the boundary enforcing it. (Yeah, I'm probably the only one who wants to see something like this)

Normally I am opposed to rule changes for the sake of it as these seem to be, I can think of a lot of better things to change than these.
 
Philzsay

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Looking forward to some of these rules being over enforced by the umps, giving away 50s resulting in goals.

In fact I'm already peeved off at one umps decision next year resulting in a goal against the Bombers, cuasing the momentum to swing and thus us losing the game..... Argh!!! 😡😡😡😉😂😂
 
Rowsus

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KLo30 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1328941092553822209



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Hopefully there is some sort of coup at the AFL, and the new leadership winds the rules back to around 2008!!!!
These new ones are shockers!!!!
Seriously, leave it alone, and just make the umpires enforce the current ones properly! (I'm looking at you, incorrect disposal!).
The game is currently over officiated, whilst contrary to that under penalised in the decisions made! The amount of criticism umpiresare going to get, and the amount of angst
1) Shifting the man on the kick in mark back 10 metres. - nearly irrelevent.
2) The Mark - so they are going to nail the man on the mark to the ground. That's fine ...... IF the umpires are quick to call "play on" the minute the guy with the ball steps off the line between him, and the man on the mark! We all know, there will be instances where they do it when the player has moved 5cm off the line, and instances where they haven't done it, until the player has moved 3 or 4 metres off the line. This will only lead to more inconsistencies, as if we don't have enough!!!
3) Decreasing Interchanges - supposedly making players more tired, making more space on the ground, leading to more scoring. I fail to see the connection, and as usual with AFL rule changes, it will fail to bring on the change it was intended to do!
4) 3 in the arc, including 1 in the square at stoppages - This is possibly the worst rule change in the history of the game.
Let's look at a typical scenario, where the ball has become locked in one teams forward flank, with everyone pressing up. So we have two possible scenarios, when the inevitable stoppage occurs: Are they going to:
Stop, and wait, and wait, while the 6 players slowly jog back to the other end, before they recommence the game?
or
Are they going to look around, see who has the most men back in the arc (maybe 1 team has 1 there, while the other team has no one within 60 metres of it!), and award the free kick that way?
Either are totally unpalatable!!!!!
The first flies in the face of the "keep game moving" changes they have been making.
The second is leading to both teams will need to keep 3 in each arc, at all times.
Both scenarios do not lead to higher scoring, so once again, it is counter-productive, to what they are trying to achieve!!!!

Seriously, the AFL is like a bunch of morons, standing around a broken car, armed only with a hammer. They keep taking it in turns to belt the engine with the hammer, to see if that will fix it, and not only make it run, but run faster than before!!!!

Guys, keep it simple. The more complicated you make it, the less likely you are to achieve your aim, of higher scoring, and more goals kicked. The world is slowly getting dumber, and the nitwits in charge of the AFL are just living proof of this!
 
Manikato1

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2) The Mark - so they are going to nail the man on the mark to the ground. That's fine ...... IF the umpires are quick to call "play on" the minute the guy with the ball steps off the line between him, and the man on the mark! We all know, there will be instances where they do it when the player has moved 5cm off the line, and instances where they haven't done it, until the player has moved 3 or 4 metres off the line. This will only lead to more inconsistencies, as if we don't have enough!!!

I would presume that the player "on the mark" simply steps back 1 or 2m and then is not on the mark and can do what he wants. After all there is no obligation to have a person on the mark. They can stand where they like as long as they do not encroach.

The changes are silly. Cannot think of a game where the controlling body consistently manipulates the rules in an attempt to get a specific outcome in terms of the way the game is played. Just more technical decisions for the umps to make creating a bigger chance of them getting it wrong. Actually feel sorry for them. As I have said before they just need to enforce the incorrect disposal rule. No prior opportunity BS or players just dropping the ball when tackled. If you have have it and you are tackled you kick it or handball it. Does it cause more free kicks awarded which holds up the game? Maybe but a ball up after a stacks on the mill is a stoppage anyway. And no one stands around a player taking a free kick watching him for something to do. They spread out to either create a lead or to man up on their opponent.
 
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