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Regarding English's delayed concussion, does the mandatory 12 days not playing, started on the day when English got concussed, or when the delayed symptoms started?
Starts when he entered H&S protocols , so Sunday.

Earliest he can return to play is on the 12th day after the day on which the concussion was suffered.

They are not saying he was concussed though 🤔 , so do they start from the game or when he started showing symptoms and entered the H&S protocols ?

S , M , T , W , T , F , S
S , M , T , W , T = 12 , they play the Lions on the Thursday

So if a player didn't display symptoms until say 3-4 days later are they still out for the "full" 12 days or is "backdated" to the game played , assuming it happened in a game ?
 
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ST KILDA captain Jack Steele is expected to return for this weekend’s trip to Sydney after making a speedy return from shoulder surgery..........McKenzie will be available for selection this weekend...........First-year midfielder Mitch Owens also suffered a concussion against the Lions in his third AFL game.............and is set to be ruled out for this weekend.

Last week's sub Marcus Windhager should come under consideration for an immediate recall to the 22 after producing a strong performance in the VFL, collecting 32 disposals, 12 clearances six inside 50s and two goals for Sandringham.............
 

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I find the De Goey fine a bit weird, and definitely a mixed message.
Clubs seem to have no problem fining players $5,000, and "collecting" it straight away.
$25,000 is obviously significantly higher, but to have the whole amount suspended just seems ridiculous.

It seems to say ....

"Where going to have to REALLY punish you big this time ....... but if you can be good for the rest of the year, we'll let you off".

Any Collingwood player that has been fined in the past few years, and had to pay straight away will probably be pretty miffed right now!
 
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I find the De Goey fine a bit weird, and definitely a mixed message.
Clubs seem to have no problem fining players $5,000, and "collecting" it straight away.
$25,000 is obviously significantly higher, but to have the whole amount suspended just seems ridiculous.

It seems to say ....

"Where going to have to REALLY punish you big this time ....... but if you can be good for the rest of the year, we'll let you off".

Any Collingwood player that has been fined in the past few years, and had to pay straight away will probably be pretty miffed right now!
It's all just contract negotiations
 
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I find the De Goey fine a bit weird, and definitely a mixed message.
Clubs seem to have no problem fining players $5,000, and "collecting" it straight away.
$25,000 is obviously significantly higher, but to have the whole amount suspended just seems ridiculous.

It seems to say ....

"Where going to have to REALLY punish you big this time ....... but if you can be good for the rest of the year, we'll let you off".

Any Collingwood player that has been fined in the past few years, and had to pay straight away will probably be pretty miffed right now!
I find it amusing that players wanted a bye due to the arduous notion of playing the whole season without a break to recuperate ...

- next thing I read about is a future uncontracted player heading to Bali on a midseason piss trip ... lol ...
- that mindset tells me everything I need to know about him ...
 
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I find the De Goey fine a bit weird, and definitely a mixed message.
Clubs seem to have no problem fining players $5,000, and "collecting" it straight away.
$25,000 is obviously significantly higher, but to have the whole amount suspended just seems ridiculous.

It seems to say ....

"Where going to have to REALLY punish you big this time ....... but if you can be good for the rest of the year, we'll let you off".

Any Collingwood player that has been fined in the past few years, and had to pay straight away will probably be pretty miffed right now!
I wonder if it's Collingwood covering their own butts.
I'd say that JDG would of had to have told Collingwood that he was going to Bali on his week off, and the club would of have to have signed off on it.
In elite sports, every player has the same goal within the team, to deliver success to the club and other players would be filthy with the way he carry's on. Time to throw the phone away while having a sip Jordy.
 

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Hopes for the same recovery period.....

I am no medical expert but I would of thought 2 weeks at least, he has a fractured cheekbone he is dealing with also. Just seems to be one of those players who is too brave/ reckless for his own good - he doesn't have any regard for his own safety which is a real worry given he is slightly built. Very talented player who I like watching play but I don't think I will ever own him again as you are always concerned that he is going to hurt himself the way he goes about it :(
A few more preseasons in the gym, a slight change to his game style, retirements of Boak & Gray and multiple seasons of 100+ averages over the next decade will not sway you at any stage? ;)
 
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I find it amusing that players wanted a bye due to the arduous notion of playing the whole season without a break to recuperate ...

- next thing I read about is a future uncontracted player heading to Bali on a midseason piss trip ... lol ...
- that mindset tells me everything I need to know about him ...
B…but he has ADD, its not his fault.

Give me strength, they must think the average punter doesn’t have 2 brain cells to rub together :rolleyes:
 
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I find the De Goey fine a bit weird, and definitely a mixed message.
Clubs seem to have no problem fining players $5,000, and "collecting" it straight away.
$25,000 is obviously significantly higher, but to have the whole amount suspended just seems ridiculous.

It seems to say ....

"Where going to have to REALLY punish you big this time ....... but if you can be good for the rest of the year, we'll let you off".

Any Collingwood player that has been fined in the past few years, and had to pay straight away will probably be pretty miffed right now!
Or he's broke.
 
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Lol - if stronger/ less reckless with his game style he will be tempting of course in a few years.
I was trying to work out if his size actually matters ... and have two initial thoughts ....

- as a "pure" midfielder then yes .... maybe he needs a role change ... don't think Rozee can survive in there for very long either ....
- so we need some more full bodied mids ... Boak could swing in but won't last forever ...
- where does that leave us ... the trade table .... we need some mids ...

Wanganeen the "rubber man" won a brownlow and to me was sort of more reckless in a lot of the things that he did ..
 
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THE LATEST on Will Powell, Tim English, Trent Cotchin and more.

Check out your club's injury updates after round 14.


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Early prognosis
Scans cleared Thilthorpe of any structural damage after he rolled an ankle in a marking contest against Gold Coast, with the forward/ruck to be on a modified program this week. Recruit Brett Turner will join training this week and is expected to play his first game for the Crows soon after arriving mid-season with a foot injury. – Nathan Schmook


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Early prognosis
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Early prognosis
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Early prognosis
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Early prognosis
With his history of concussion and a Thursday game in round 16, English could miss two matches after suffering a delayed concussion following the win over GWS last week. Duryea has avoided a dreaded ACL tear, but will like be out until finals, while Weightman is unlikely after a gruesome elbow injury last week. In good news, Toby McLean will return in the VFL this week after recovering from his second ACL injury. - Ben Sutton

*Placed on the club's long-term injury list
 
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Star Carlton defender Jacob Weitering is a chance to make an early return from a shoulder injury, according to Sportsday’s co-host Sam McClure.

Weitering has been sidelined since Round 11 after sustaining the setback against Collingwood, which saw him subsequently undergo surgery.




While originally expected to be on the sidelines for six weeks, McClure believes the 24-year-old could only miss one more game before making his return in Round 16.

“Carlton is playing St Kilda next week (on Friday night),” he said on Sportsday.

“Track watchers are telling me today that Jacob Weitering is not far away from playing in that game and that would be unbelievable.

“He’s been doing some serious sessions on the track.”

Weitering has become one of Carlton’s most important players, with his absence being particularly felt as a result of the club’s defensive injury crisis.

The likes of Oscar McDonald, Mitch McGovern, Zac Williams, Caleb Marchbank and mid-season draftee Sam Durdin are all currently on the sidelines due to injury.
 
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