Position Midfielder Discussion

Who are your likely 3 starters post Marsh 1...?

  • Macrae

    Votes: 73 69.5%
  • Neale

    Votes: 56 53.3%
  • Fyfe

    Votes: 21 20.0%
  • Kelly

    Votes: 24 22.9%
  • Cripps

    Votes: 57 54.3%
  • Dunkley

    Votes: 26 24.8%
  • Titch

    Votes: 19 18.1%
  • Danger

    Votes: 25 23.8%
  • Bont

    Votes: 25 23.8%
  • Oliver

    Votes: 35 33.3%

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It's important to have a few premos with the round 12 bye because it alleviates the stress on having a shipload of premos having the round 13 bye. Just a balance thing.
so You think it’s better of starting Neale and danger and don’t worry about trying to get the coin for both with in 3 trades.
 
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Anyone that’s not starting in the best 6-8 of their position is a risk. Especially if they’re at an age where a big jump is unlikely.
Wise words!

We can't afford to start with the best 6-8 players, so we kind of have to look for some bargain players, who are the risky ones.

Yeah, Lyons may be unlikely to have a big jump, but around his price ($535,400), besides F/M Dusty Martin who I have already, Coniglio looks the best selection, but he has some doubts as well, hmmm.
 
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so You think it’s better of starting Neale and danger and don’t worry about trying to get the coin for both with in 3 trades.
There's just so many ways of looking at the byes that it's mind boggling, do you bring in those sort of players after they've had their byes thereby missing their scores early? Or upgrading and having extra premos on field?
I'm a bit of a simpleton (some would say a lot of one) but I'm trying to limit the amount of premos that I'm going to miss per round, so my team currently looks like this over the byes.....

Round 11........0 premos missing and 22 playing
Round 12........3 premos missing and 20 playing
Round 13........2 premos missing and 19 playing
Round 14........7 premos missing and 16 playing

Last year I didn't use any trades coming into the bye rounds because my round 12 players were already set. This year I'll possibly bring in a round 11 player after his bye to strengthen my field for rest of the byes.
Rounds 12-13 I'll be using the six trades to get to full premo coming out of the byes (or at least close to) as well as strengthening my position for round 14.
I'm hoping to beat my 2k/pts/round over the byes last year.
 

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RD1 VS Bris:
Last 3 VS Bris: 149.67 from 3 (3/3 120+, 2/3 150+)

RD2 VS Freo:
Last 3 VS Freo: 125.33 from 3 (2/3 120+, 1/3 150+)

RD3 VS Coll:
Last 3 VS Coll: 151 from 3 (3/3 120+, 2/3 150+)

RD4 VS Geel:
Last 3 VS Geel: 128.67 from 3 (2/3 120+)

RD5 VS Carl:
Last 3 VS Carl: 144.67 from 3 (1/3 below 100, 2/3 150+)
 
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There's just so many ways of looking at the byes that it's mind boggling, do you bring in those sort of players after they've had their byes thereby missing their scores early? Or upgrading and having extra premos on field?
I'm a bit of a simpleton (some would say a lot of one) but I'm trying to limit the amount of premos that I'm going to miss per round, so my team currently looks like this over the byes.....

Round 11........0 premos missing and 22 playing
Round 12........3 premos missing and 20 playing
Round 13........2 premos missing and 19 playing
Round 14........7 premos missing and 16 playing

Last year I didn't use any trades coming into the bye rounds because my round 12 players were already set. This year I'll possibly bring in a round 11 player after his bye to strengthen my field for rest of the byes.
Rounds 12-13 I'll be using the six trades to get to full premo coming out of the byes (or at least close to) as well as strengthening my position for round 14.
I'm hoping to beat my 2k/pts/round over the byes last year.
Did you have 3 trades left at seasons end? How did your season go? I trade a lot early.
 
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Did you have 3 trades left at seasons end? How did your season go? I trade a lot early.
Haha, no. I meant I didn't need to use a trade in the week leading into the byes because I had kept an eye on structures when using previous trades. I used my last trade in round 20
 

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2019 Wins Avg: 93.53 from 15
2019 Losses Avg: 95.33 from 6
2019 Pre Bye Avg: 92 from 12
2019 Post Bye Avg: 96.78 from 9

2019 Disposals Avg: 22.62 from 21
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 23: 97.75 from 12
SC avg when disposals below 23: 89.11 from 9

10/21 games in 2019 with 2 or less tackles.
SC avg when tackles between 0-2: 86.2 from 10
SC avg when tackles above 3: 101.18 from 11
 

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The changing of fixtures from R5 onwards is pretty significant for the midfielders. Neale doesn't currently have a De Boer matchup until late season but if BANG GWS scheduled against Brisbane in R5, R6 or R7, it would probably mean that it's better not to start him.

Bont also definitely will face De Boer only once this season instead of twice so he becomes a slightly better prospect.

Danger faces De Boer in R1 so that's a positive for him I think given it only affects one price movement.
 
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The changing of fixtures from R5 onwards is pretty significant for the midfielders. Neale doesn't currently have a De Boer matchup until late season but if BANG GWS scheduled against Brisbane in R6 or R7, it would probably mean that it's better not to start him.

Bont also definitely will face De Boer only once this season instead of twice so he becomes a slightly better prospect.

Danger faces De Boer in R1 so that's a positive for him I think given it only affects one price movement.
Very interesting gonna have nightmares now. Won't be able to sleep and my mind is gonna race thinking about new strategies for the next 60 hrs. Makes me think twice about avoiding those injury plagued players (GWS) gettin all 17 games now seems achieveable especially if theres a larger mid season break if we go ahead this week. Those resting fwd type mids Fyfe,Danger,Cripps,Bont,Dusty,Coniglio for example scare me a little more now if they get longer fwd time trying get game to game in the weeks they may cram in 3-4 games over 15 day type scenario's.
 
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Wise words!

We can't afford to start with the best 6-8 players, so we kind of have to look for some bargain players, who are the risky ones.

Yeah, Lyons may be unlikely to have a big jump, but around his price ($535,400), besides F/M Dusty Martin who I have already, Coniglio looks the best selection, but he has some doubts as well, hmmm.
It’s a risk to spend that much if you aren’t sure he can step up. Look at Steele last year.
 
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It’s a risk to spend that much if you aren’t sure he can step up. Look at Steele last year.
Does a bloke who averaged 117 after the bye really need to step up that much more? Sometimes it just takes a player finding their feet with a new team to find a new level nobody thought they had in them as a footballer.
 
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Does a bloke who averaged 117 after the bye really need to step up that much more? Sometimes it just takes a player finding their feet with a new team to find a new level nobody thought they had in them as a footballer.
If you’re sure you’re sure then go for it I think
 

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Having huge difficulty picking my top 5 midfielders.
Can see so much upside for each player. Specifically, looking at replacing typical Oliver/Dangerfield picks with the below players. Would appreciate some guidance from people.

T Mitchell
He is massively underpriced from his brownlow 2018 season, however how will he go in his first season back from injury? He might start off slowly or Worpel and a fit O'Meara might be stealing points from him - however I can still see him going BAM BAM with two 140+ games in quick succession.

Gaff
Currently trying to get Gaff into my side from his huge Marsh series, although in 2019 he had FOUR sub-90 point games. Not good enough for a super premo, however I think he can increase his consistency this year.

Coniglio
Under-priced for a super premo. Capable of an insanely high ceiling. Only issue is his injury woes and durability.
 

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T Mitchell:

RD1 VS Bris:
Last 3 VS Bris: 149.67 from 3 (3/3 120+, 2/3 150+)

RD2 VS Freo:
Last 3 VS Freo: 125.33 from 3 (2/3 120+, 1/3 150+)

RD3 VS Coll:
Last 3 VS Coll: 151 from 3 (3/3 120+, 2/3 150+)

RD4 VS Geel:
Last 3 VS Geel: 128.67 from 3 (2/3 120+)

10 of his last 12 matches against these sides have resulted in 120+’s with 5/12 150+ and all above 100.
 
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Having huge difficulty picking my top 5 midfielders.
Can see so much upside for each player. Specifically, looking at replacing typical Oliver/Dangerfield picks with the below players. Would appreciate some guidance from people.

T Mitchell
He is massively underpriced from his brownlow 2018 season, however how will he go in his first season back from injury? He might start off slowly or Worpel and a fit O'Meara might be stealing points from him - however I can still see him going BAM BAM with two 140+ games in quick succession.

Gaff
Currently trying to get Gaff into my side from his huge Marsh series, although in 2019 he had FOUR sub-90 point games. Not good enough for a super premo, however I think he can increase his consistency this year.

Coniglio
Under-priced for a super premo. Capable of an insanely high ceiling. Only issue is his injury woes and durability.
Have had Mitchell from day 1, just know what he does and he does it well.. No to Gaff for me, too outside, had him last year and it was a rollercoaster... Cogs has been in and out and will be til late... for me he has the intangible which is the captaincy..
 
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Fyfe , Kelly , Cripps , Bont & Sloane

If the first 2 break hopefully it is before rookie upgrade/downgrade season.
 
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