Position Midfielders Discussion

Which midfielders will you be starting? New poll 4/3/19

  • Macrae $690k

    Votes: 71 47.3%
  • Cripps $648k

    Votes: 134 89.3%
  • Oliver $623k

    Votes: 85 56.7%
  • Fyfe $618k

    Votes: 61 40.7%
  • Kelly $618k

    Votes: 14 9.3%
  • Neale $607k

    Votes: 46 30.7%
  • Dusty $564k

    Votes: 41 27.3%
  • B Crouch $418k

    Votes: 51 34.0%
  • Libba $300k

    Votes: 46 30.7%
  • Walsh $207k

    Votes: 104 69.3%

  • Total voters
    150

quite ironic

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Jack Steele St Kilda stats in the last 2 years:

Etihad average 99.33 (24 games)
Interstate average 82.25 (12 games)

Win Average: 102.62 (13 games)
Loss Average: 87.81 (27 games)
Scored 100 in a draw to GWS too.

First 6 weeks:
GC (96)
Essendon (128, 59)
Fremantle (71, 106)
Hawthorn (121, 96, 116)
Melbourne (104, 75, 75, 113)
Port Adelaide (81, 81)


When collecting 25 disposals or more last two years: 106.33 (15 games)

When collecting less than 25 disposals last 2 years: 85.12 (26 games)

When recording 10+ tackles: 109.67 (9 games)

When recording under 10 tackles: 88.06 (32 games)
 
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Was only thinking today how many games have Crouch , Crouch , Gibbs & Sloane actually played together ?

A lot of love for the Crows midfield (I was one of them) BUT a improved Jacobs , Greenwood will still get CBA , add Laird , Milera , Seedsman & Smith.

JJ , Lynch & Tex will have their time.

Lot of people trying to eat slices of pie.

Do they end up like Hawthorn and Richmond and have more people between that 85-100 mark ?

Just a thought I had
 

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Jack Steele St Kilda stats in the last 2 years:

Etihad average 99.33 (24 games)
Interstate average 82.25 (12 games)

Win Average: 102.62 (13 games)
Loss Average: 87.81 (27 games)
Scored 100 in a draw to GWS too.

First 6 weeks:
GC (96)
Essendon (128, 59)
Fremantle (71, 106)
Hawthorn (121, 96, 116)
Melbourne (104, 75, 75, 113)
Port Adelaide (81, 81)


When collecting 25 disposals or more last two years: 106.33 (15 games)

When collecting less than 25 disposals last 2 years: 85.12 (26 games)

When recording 10+ tackles: 109.67 (9 games)

When recording under 10 tackles: 88.06 (32 games)
Does any of this even matter when we're expecting him to just continue his post bye form + hes increased his tank.
 

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Not getting the hype over Brad Crouch. Yeh he is certainly underpriced for what he can produce but he's severely injury prone and at his price you would expect him to become a keeper/premo level mid. Would spend the extra coin on his brother who his durable and has historical premo level scoring on his side and take a higher end mid price risk on another line.
 

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Not getting the hype over Brad Crouch. Yeh he is certainly underpriced for what he can produce but he's severely injury prone and at his price you would expect him to become a keeper/premo level mid. Would spend the extra coin on his brother who his durable and has historical premo level scoring on his side and take a higher end mid price risk on another line.
People said the exact same things about Coniglio last year...
 

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People said the exact same things about Coniglio last year...
Coniglio also averaged 106 in 2017 and played 21 games, B. Crouch has never played more than 17 games and his highest average is 96. What do you think he will average this season and what are your plans with him exactly? Keeper or stepping stone?
 

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Not getting the hype over Brad Crouch. Yeh he is certainly underpriced for what he can produce but he's severely injury prone and at his price you would expect him to become a keeper/premo level mid. Would spend the extra coin on his brother who his durable and has historical premo level scoring on his side and take a higher end mid price risk on another line.
No doubt an injury risk but he has had a full preseason and looks fit, which doesn't count for everything but not for nothing either. You're right that he has to score at near keeper levels to be a success, but he doesn't necessarily have to do it for a full season. 105 to the byes would be a big win, unless it caused you to miss out on a gun rookie. Many (myself included) had their eyes on him as a classic breakout candidate last year before his injury, after he came home post-byes at 106 in 2017 (inc finals). I don't think we know his ceiling yet.

EDIT: In answer to the follow-up, for me I would be surprised if he averaged below 100 (assuming he stays fit) and think he has it in him to go 110+. I am picking him as a stepping stone but that wouldn't be enough unless I thought there was an outside chance of going higher. Many may think it's dumb to be surprised if he went below 100, considering he has never gone above it before, and that is their right.

EDI2: I should note he's actually only half in my team. He is part of my last XvY. I only write this down because I don't want "I said I had him on the forum so I have to pick him to save face" as part of my reasoning in the end).
 
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So Crouch, Crouch, Sloane, Laird, Gibbs all to go 100+ this season. Have my doubts
M Crouch will.
B Crouch will - for about 5 games then get injured.
Sloane will.
Laird might not (you heard it here first :eek:)
Gibbs won't while B Crouch is playing, then might after he gets injured (but it's unlikely).
 

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M Crouch will.
B Crouch will - for about 5 games then get injured.
Sloane will.
Laird might not (you heard it here first :eek:)
Gibbs won't while B Crouch is playing, then might after he gets injured (but it's unlikely).
Pretty close to how I see it. Give Brouch 8 games first, though, please.
 

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Pretty close to how I see it. Give Brouch 8 games first, though, please.
Heh I've not picked him so it will burn me if he plays 8+ at 105+ off the bat.
I know he's got a good ceiling but in 2017 when he averaged 96 he pushed out 8 of 17 below 90 (nearly half) and 11 of 17 below 100.
If he doesn't hit the big scores (ie. Sloane and his brother get them instead) he could be a really frustrating pick: 110 one week, 70 odd the next.
 

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Not getting the hype over Brad Crouch. Yeh he is certainly underpriced for what he can produce but he's severely injury prone and at his price you would expect him to become a keeper/premo level mid. Would spend the extra coin on his brother who his durable and has historical premo level scoring on his side and take a higher end mid price risk on another line.
It is just a risk/reward scenario. If you think he can score at a level that warrants taking the risk you pick him, if not you don't. We probably have 5-8 correction trades up our sleeve (depending on injuries), which do allow us to take some risks.

As an example if a player was priced at $442k and had the below history, would you pick him?

66/5, 62/10, 85/20, 76/11, 90/22, 71/2, 82/18
 
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