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49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!
Watkins should benefit from his elevation to WR1 - but as someone who has been burnt by him a few times before I'm not going to rush in.
 
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49ers had TWO interceptions last year (for the whole year!) - they had TWO in week 1, both went for TD's. Extremely unlikely that happens again.
Watkins had more points in the 1st quarter of week 1 than he did in any game in the past 4 years.
John Ross had almost as many yards in week 1 than he did for all games combined last season (and Andy Dalton threw for the 3rd most yards in his career).
Marquise Brown saw 19% of snaps.

Take that for data!
I agree about the unlikelihood of repeats for the 49ers and M Brown. But I'm not so sure about Watkins and Ross.
Watkins may flourish as WR1 given the opportunity. With Hill playing he was rarely targeted - only 55 times in 10 games last year. With Hill injured and with Watkins in his 2nd year at KC I think he is a good chance of coming good. He was #4 pick in the 2014 draft, so someone thought he had talent, and he played for pretty poor Bills and Rams teams prior to KC. .

I think that Ross (and Dalton) are good chances of having best-ever years..
The Bengals have a new head coach in Zac Taylor, previously a coach at the Rams. In 2017 he was WR coach and oversaw 3 rookie WRs who put up good numbers. In 2018 as QB coach he helped Goff to career highs in every category.
I know that the Rams success is attributed mostly to McVay but it does look as though Taylor is more pass-friendly than ex-coach Lewis. Dalton threw the ball 51 times on the week-end. Last year he averaged 33 attempts per game with his attempts ranging from 17-46.
Plus, I have heard that Lewis didn't like Ross and didn't want him drafted. So Ross was hardly sighted: he only had 58 targets in 13 games at an average of 4.46 per game last year. He was targeted 12 times on the week-end. That may be due to AJ Green being out but Ross was targeted the most of any Bengals WR and Green is expected to miss up to 8 weeks.

I'd still want to see wk.02 before trading in either Watkins or Ross, though.
 
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I agree about the unlikelihood of repeats for the 49ers and M Brown. But I'm not so sure about Watkins and Ross.
Watkins may flourish as WR1 given the opportunity. With Hill playing he was rarely targeted - only 55 times in 10 games last year. With Hill injured and with Watkins in his 2nd year at KC I think he is a good chance of coming good. He was #4 pick in the 2014 draft, so someone thought he had talent, and he played for pretty poor Bills and Rams teams prior to KC. .

I think that Ross (and Dalton) are good chances of having best-ever years..
The Bengals have a new head coach in Zac Taylor, previously a coach at the Rams. In 2017 he was WR coach and oversaw 3 rookie WRs who put up good numbers. In 2018 as QB coach he helped Goff to career highs in every category.
I know that the Rams success is attributed mostly to McVay but it does look as though Taylor is more pass-friendly than ex-coach Lewis. Dalton threw the ball 51 times on the week-end. Last year he averaged 33 attempts per game with his attempts ranging from 17-46.
Plus, I have heard that Lewis didn't like Ross and didn't want him drafted. So Ross was hardly sighted: he only had 58 targets in 13 games at an average of 4.46 per game last year. He was targeted 12 times on the week-end. That may be due to AJ Green being out but Ross was targeted the most of any Bengals WR and Green is expected to miss up to 8 weeks.

I'd still want to see wk.02 before trading in either Watkins or Ross, though.
Awesome insights and much appreciated ...

- Initially this round I had Adams on the chopping block as he has a very so-so match up this week and will bleed some cash but at what long term cost .... but my downgrade options are Watkins (breakout) and Jackson (broken finger) of both I need to see another game from !! ... Also got Gallup in the back of my mind ... wanted to start him but he got squeezed out by taking a few others ...

- Like Ekeler with Gordon out but can also wait another week as I'd prefer Bell post bye .. can go Adams down to either WR and Guice up to him .. very tempting but might be dancing with the devil !!

- I want Jacobs and am not sure whether to make it happen this week .... to facilitate it would take Henry to Waller ...
 

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Not sure on this move ... DST, TE and K are so up and down IMO that I've found chasing points can also end in disaster and wasted trades ... more so than other lines ... I'd wait on a second game for any players / teams on those lines .... not advice but just my opinion ..

Edit: 48 pts looks awesome on face value but won't continue for very long ... I'll be looking to either sideways to a better DST or cash in on a cheaper option if the opportunity arises to facilitate an upgrade on another line ...
Fair call and I hear you (defense is always reiterates as unstable and this why I picked an Atl team I thought were healthier) but it could free up some future correction money around Baker and Chubb and I underestimated how many weapons SF have on defence
 

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Fair call and I hear you (defense is always reiterates as unstable and this why I picked an Atl team I thought were healthier) but it could free up some future correction money around Baker and Chubb and I underestimated how many weapons SF have on defence
Chubb FWIW was tracking just fine until they fell too far behind and reverted to a passing game ... make of that what you want ... I still think he was a sound initial pick but the game just didn't pan out the right way ... looking at his past stats he can put up a monster score any given week ... he has the role and Hilliard is in the concussion protocol ...

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Chubb FWIW was tracking just fine until they fell too far behind and reverted to a passing game ... make of that what you want ... I still think he was a sound initial pick but the game just didn't pan out the right way ... looking at his past stats he can put up a monster score any given week ... he has the role and Hilliard is in the concussion protocol ...

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Fair enough and good point, I expect him to score well this week and I'm more worried about Baker and OBJ based on game 1, even though I do expect them to sort themselves out.

Re people saying don't trade down to SF, it's not the same team as last year, they have added Dee Ford and Bosa for sacks, Kwon Alexander, Verrett if he can get fit and there's the possibility Sherman improves. They look like the correct first pick. I had Atlanta in the hope that Ricardo Allen and Deion Jones would return and get some INTS, Neal back would help the Defence in general and had hoped that one DE would step up. SF just look like the right initial pick at their value. You shouldn’t expect them to be the no.1 D but they could be 13-20. One reason not to go to them is that Defences don't score a lot of points and have a harder time making money, so the trade simply might not be worth it. That said a lot of rookies won’t do much better so it could be a decent rookie correction.
 

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I have 2 low scoring Kickers, Eddy Pineiro K $2,650,000 Chicago Bears and Matt G a y K $2,600,000 Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I don't know what, I need to know, to influence which to choose?
 

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Thanks.

Henry to Hockenson I guess. Not a trade I was planning on having to make.

Edit: Couple of sites are saying possibly 4-6 weeks out, which sounds optimistic to me. Waller has a bye in R6 unfortunately, could possibly bench Henry until then and hope he is back in time, not likely to be any good cheap replacements at that stage if he's not back. :unsure:
 
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One thing to note with that ranking, there's a very good chance that Vedvik won't outscore both Pineiro and G'ay this week. (Sorry Jaca).

In my 1 game of experience, I'd suggest looking at the quality of the defense of the two opposition teams. Better opposition defense should mean more FG attempts than TD's. Hard to know based on one game which is better, so I'm probably leaning to Pineiro myself at this stage, only as I think Chicago is the better team compared to Tampa.
 

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