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This is a general thread for poker related stuff, you can post anything you want in here related to the game, including questions about strategy, experiences at playing the game, general views of poker players or whatever.

As promised, here's a short write up on my experience at the 2014 WSOP Main Event, with some advice on playing the event thrown in:

The days start at 12 noon and finish at midnight, other days are a bit longer if they want to cut the field down to a certain size. Get to Vegas a few days earlier to get over jet-lag as otherwise you will not be playing optimally. If you can, stay at or close to the Rio. Sleep is hard to come by as the casino environment is set up to keep people gambling. The air is actually over-oxygenated to try and keep people awake; I ran into a fellow Australian poker player before the Main Event started who had played in an earlier event and he said to me with a completely straight (if bug-eyed, pupil-dilated) face: “they're pumping crack cocaine through the air-conditioning!” Not quite, though it does feel it like that at times.


The poker area is like this huge convention centre broken up into very large rooms (the Amazon room etc, its fantastically calming to walk into a room the size of a football field and all you can hear is the clicking of poker chips). Physically its connected but quite a walk away from the rest of the casino. This has a big impact when you have a break as if you want to eat something you have to negotiate hundreds of poker players with the same goal.


Having said that, the food (and the coffee) is, in my opinion, frigging awful and this goes for the United States as a whole (though the alcohol is awesome quality and cheap) – plan your dietary intake well ahead of time and rely little on the food they have at the Rio.


Cross your fingers for a good table draw. All players are listed on the internet prior to the day's play starting, so you can look up your table and see who is actually on it, you can then Hendon them and see if they have any results. Be aware other players will be doing this to you so if you are a no-name they will likely target you and you should adjust your play as a result.


Its a unique event in which plebs like me can play in an event with the best players on the planet – that to me is its biggest appeal. Like I'll never have the opportunity to run out onto the MCG in a Grand Final, or play at Wimbledon in tennis but every year you can play in the Main Event. Also, because of the variance/luck involved in the game anyone who ponies up the money can potentially win it.


The year I was there Phil Ivey ran up the biggest stack in the room. Ivey is basically a god among men to other poker players, even the new school of players look up to Ivey in a way they do not to other “name” old schoolers like DNegs and Helmuth. There was this palpable buzz in the air about Ivey running up this stack through the entire field. That was a really cool feeling: “I'm playing in the same event as Phil Ivey! And he's the chip leader!” We had a known Irish poker pro come over to our table from Ivey's table and he said: “you've got no idea what's going on over there! Its unreal!” All the other pros at the table (Yunis, Heimiller, Fox et al, all of them who have made millions of $ in this game) were like giddy fan girls for the latest hot boy band trying to pump this Irish pro for information about what had happened at Ivey's table.


Every year there's also stuff happening that add to the colour of the event. This year there was a guy that in the first blind level shoved all in blind, exposed one card, got up from the table, took his shoe off and threw it at another player, then pulled his pants off. In my year this happened: "Table 309 is missing a drunk player, Bottoms Up!" (this page refreshes after 5 minutes so you'll have back arrow to read what happened if it does this).


I have some notes on the actual play but they're pretty boring. You just have to be aware its a marathon, not a sprint, and you can't be in the race if you have no chips.
 

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I have only ever played at Casino with sit and go version.
You just got to Poker area desk and it usually has list of games in motion on screen.
If I am there it is more for fun and maybe hour to three hours with $100 to $200.
I will tend to play no limit hold em for something like $2/$3 blinds or $3/$5 blinds. Depending on what they got at time and how long to wait.
I was in Sydney two weeks ago and had about hour and half to kill before going out to footy there. Star City casino for poker

I think I played first half an hour not playing many hands other than seeing flop once or twice with big blind but really got crap cards for the first 30 minutes and players at table even before flop were raising each other to $30 to $80 without much fuss. Only playing with $100 did not see much point playing any hands until I had something decent. But then when I did play with some decent cards I ended up winning number of hands in a row and most of those hands they did not see my cards as ended up folding if I raised with $30 to $40

Here is a general question as I do not play a lot.
If you were to leave after 40 to 50 minutes winning quite a bit without playing too many hands do you think it is against spirit of that type of game to just go?
i.e. Not really give the other players many hands to win anything back?

I suspect most think you are fine to leave anytime you like but almost felt obliged to hang around the full 90 minutes I was roughly intending to play but would have been quite content to leave myself 50 minutes in as was winning quite a bit more than I would expect at a table for only $2/$3 no limit hold em.
 

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I have only ever played at Casino with sit and go version.
You just got to Poker area desk and it usually has list of games in motion on screen.
If I am there it is more for fun and maybe hour to three hours with $100 to $200.
I will tend to play no limit hold em for something like $2/$3 blinds or $3/$5 blinds. Depending on what they got at time and how long to wait.
I was in Sydney two weeks ago and had about hour and half to kill before going out to footy there. Star City casino for poker

I think I played first half an hour not playing many hands other than seeing flop once or twice with big blind but really got crap cards for the first 30 minutes and players at table even before flop were raising each other to $30 to $80 without much fuss. Only playing with $100 did not see much point playing any hands until I had something decent. But then when I did play with some decent cards I ended up winning number of hands in a row and most of those hands they did not see my cards as ended up folding if I raised with $30 to $40

Here is a general question as I do not play a lot.
If you were to leave after 40 to 50 minutes winning quite a bit without playing too many hands do you think it is against spirit of that type of game to just go?
i.e. Not really give the other players many hands to win anything back?


I suspect most think you are fine to leave anytime you like but almost felt obliged to hang around the full 90 minutes I was roughly intending to play but would have been quite content to leave myself 50 minutes in as was winning quite a bit more than I would expect at a table for only $2/$3 no limit hold em.
In a casino environment you do not owe anyone any favours. If this was a home game with friends this might be a bit different. You should decide when and when not to leave a table. You can sit down for one hand, win a big pot and walk away with your winnings if you so feel like. These people are strangers and not your friends, they are trying to take your money and you should have that in the back of your mind with your decisions at the table, including when to withdraw from the table.
 
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In a casino environment you do not owe anyone any favours. If this was a home game with friends this might be a bit different. You should decide when and when not to leave a table. You can sit down for one hand, win a big pot and walk away with your winnings if you so feel like. These people are strangers and not your friends, they are trying to take your money and you should have that in the back of your mind with your decisions at the table, including when to withdraw from the table.
Make a lot of sense in context of visiting a Casino away.

As for local Casino. if I did play a lot more often to the point of knowing some regulars, reckon I would feel like an ass leaving after one hand of one big win.

But point taken and well explained,
Home games with family and friends is obviously more social game than any gambling so never really meant that.
 

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Make a lot of sense in context of visiting a Casino away.

As for local Casino. if I did play a lot more often to the point of knowing some regulars, reckon I would feel like an ass leaving after one hand of one big win.

But point taken and well explained,
Home games with family and friends is obviously more social game than any gambling so never really meant that.
Even the regs that you may know well will look on you as a potential ATM, so keep this in mind with any social interactions you have with them. Be cordial and well-mannered but be aware of the social dynamics of this situation. Regs are regs for a reason and if you feel like getting up from a table at any stage, even if you know these regs, just do it.
 
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