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I wonder what is easier to achieve , Top 125 in the World or being highly paid on a AFL list.

How much does the 125th ranked player receive in endorsements and sponsorships deals ?

How does it work in golf ? , are they "paid" appearance money for tournaments or are they playing purely for prizemoney etc.

Some AFL players might get a rude shock if their contracts were performance based.
As I understand it, the PGA stats (https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.109.html) are for money won in tour events. In a typical week approx. 156 start, approx. 80 make the cut and they are the only ones paid, based on their finishing position.

(1) Not all PGA members get to play an event. Only those with the highest rankings are accepted.
(2) Friday afternoon approx. 76 "slam the trunk" of their car and head off to the next event hoping to get a start and make the cut.

These are the current elite. There are lower ranked tours (even in the US) where the prise money is significantly less. The big prize on a lesser tour is the top (say) 10 automtically get promoted to the bigger tour, but they are ranked behind the top 125 from last season so there are a restricted number of spots each week (156 - 125, sort of). Sort of, because the next week's sponsor reserves spots for players they want to see.

So there can be a bit of pressure on Friday to (1) play and earn in the weekend; and (2) on Sunday to maximise an earnings opportunity and the chance to play next week.

How good are you from 40 meters out on a slight angle knowing you won't get paid this week if you miss?
 
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As I understand it, the PGA stats (https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.109.html) are for money won in tour events. In a typical week approx. 156 start, approx. 80 make the cut and they are the only ones paid, based on their finishing position.

(1) Not all PGA members get to play an event. Only those with the highest rankings are accepted.
(2) Friday afternoon approx. 76 "slam the trunk" of their car and head off to the next event hoping to get a start and make the cut.

These are the current elite. There are lower ranked tours (even in the US) where the prise money is significantly less. The big prize on a lesser tour is the top (say) 10 automtically get promoted to the bigger tour, but they are ranked behind the top 125 from last season so there are a restricted number of spots each week (156 - 125, sort of). Sort of, because the next week's sponsor reserves spots for players they want to see.

So there can be a bit of pressure on Friday to (1) play and earn in the weekend; and (2) on Sunday to maximise an earnings opportunity and the chance to play next week.

How good are you from 40 meters out on a slight angle knowing you won't get paid this week if you miss?
thanks for that , very interesting insight (not into golf at all which you probably gathered)

certainly adds a different perspective to things , perform to live and survive week to week to try and achieve and realise your life goal
 
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As I understand it, the PGA stats (https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.109.html) are for money won in tour events. In a typical week approx. 156 start, approx. 80 make the cut and they are the only ones paid, based on their finishing position.

(1) Not all PGA members get to play an event. Only those with the highest rankings are accepted.
(2) Friday afternoon approx. 76 "slam the trunk" of their car and head off to the next event hoping to get a start and make the cut.

These are the current elite. There are lower ranked tours (even in the US) where the prise money is significantly less. The big prize on a lesser tour is the top (say) 10 automtically get promoted to the bigger tour, but they are ranked behind the top 125 from last season so there are a restricted number of spots each week (156 - 125, sort of). Sort of, because the next week's sponsor reserves spots for players they want to see.

So there can be a bit of pressure on Friday to (1) play and earn in the weekend; and (2) on Sunday to maximise an earnings opportunity and the chance to play next week.

How good are you from 40 meters out on a slight angle knowing you won't get paid this week if you miss?
Reminds me of drive for show, putt for dough. Many weekend golfers (me) can hit the ball pretty well (field kicking), get to the green (kicking for goal) become a bundle of nerves. I recall Ben Hogan (reputably one of only 2 to have ‘owned’ his golf swing, the other Mo Norman) could hardly get the putter head back late in their career, called it a day.
 
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Reminds me of drive for show, putt for dough. Many weekend golfers (me) can hit the ball pretty well (field kicking), get to the green (kicking for goal) become a bundle of nerves. I recall Ben Hogan (reputably one of only 2 to have ‘owned’ his golf swing, the other Mo Norman) could hardly get the putter head back late in career, called it a day.
The big muscles (shoulders, hips) seem to retain more muscle memory. After a few weeks away from the game it is (relatively) easy to hit the longer shots. The small muscles (hands, wrists) take forever to remember what to do so chipping and putting are (relatively) hard. And then of course getting the brain to co-ordinate it all might well be a function of ability, especially under pressure.
 
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The big muscles (shoulders, hips) seem to retain more muscle memory. After a few weeks away from the game it is (relatively) easy to hit the longer shots. The small muscles (hands, wrists) take forever to remember what to do so chipping and putting are (relatively) hard. And then of course getting the brain to co-ordinate it all might well be a function of ability, especially under pressure.
Which indeed tells the weekend flogger (me) what you should practice, the short game. Shave easily half a dozen shots off a round, difference between a 15 (me) and 9 h’cap. The pro’s don’t spend endless hours practicing the money shots for no reason. Something that may interest you, a bit of a golfer it seems, I have a set of Ben Hogan irons, beautiful looking set, one of the clubs is designated ‘E’. This is the standard wedge in a set, Hogan called this club ‘the equaliser’, knock it close after an ordinary shot; hence the E.
 
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Which indeed tells the weekend flogger (me) what you should practice, the short game. Shave easily half a dozen shots off a round, difference between a 15 (me) and 9 h’cap.
It might say more about my golf game than anything else but the one shot that never deserts me is the hack out from somewhere under a bush, behind a tree, out of the long grass, ....

I always walk away feeling I've left about 15 shots on the course due to chipping and putting badly... one day I might actually turn up more than 5 minutes before tee off and actually loosen up properly and to some practice putts ;)
 
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Reminds me of drive for show, putt for dough. Many weekend golfers (me) can hit the ball pretty well (field kicking), get to the green (kicking for goal) become a bundle of nerves. I recall Ben Hogan (reputably one of only 2 to have ‘owned’ his golf swing, the other Mo Norman) could hardly get the putter head back late in their career, called it a day.
Drive for flash, putt for cash!
 
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