Position SC 2021: Defender Discussion
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Yeah love the defender bunch this year
So much stronger then the forward line
Guys like laird Whitfield lloyd are all capable of 110+
Stewart Ryan Ridley McDonald all potential 105+ guys then the safe types of Daniel short mills and crisp who will all be 95-105
That’s without mentioning the breakout potential of guys like Williams in the guts lukoscious with the juicy new kick out rules Witherden and Duggan in a new midfield role.
The backline is really appealing and a big factor why I was planning on starting laird in the middle.
Not sure what we’re gonna get yet from Docherty and Howe who are also elite guys.
Think with the new scoring and lack of scaling for big moments Maynard and saad will drop into that next pack with rich vlastuin Houston Salem Saad sheppard etc
Very keen to see how the kpds scoring is weighted this year
could a may Blicavs Haynes rampe andrews type break into that top 5 range?
So much stronger then the forward line
Guys like laird Whitfield lloyd are all capable of 110+
Stewart Ryan Ridley McDonald all potential 105+ guys then the safe types of Daniel short mills and crisp who will all be 95-105
That’s without mentioning the breakout potential of guys like Williams in the guts lukoscious with the juicy new kick out rules Witherden and Duggan in a new midfield role.
The backline is really appealing and a big factor why I was planning on starting laird in the middle.
Not sure what we’re gonna get yet from Docherty and Howe who are also elite guys.
Think with the new scoring and lack of scaling for big moments Maynard and saad will drop into that next pack with rich vlastuin Houston Salem Saad sheppard etc
Very keen to see how the kpds scoring is weighted this year
could a may Blicavs Haynes rampe andrews type break into that top 5 range?
100% easiest line to pick from by miles this year
Can see 10 guys going 100+
Mids will always be good but uncertainty as to who will be top 8-10 guys
forwards have a bunch of elite guys at the top but danger hampered Hawkins won’t be near it Dunkley a million mids around him now zorko age factor with dusty in second gear til post bye and Marshall with ryder in the way
Actually love the backs and would go 4 premos minimum in 2021
Can see 10 guys going 100+
Mids will always be good but uncertainty as to who will be top 8-10 guys
forwards have a bunch of elite guys at the top but danger hampered Hawkins won’t be near it Dunkley a million mids around him now zorko age factor with dusty in second gear til post bye and Marshall with ryder in the way
Actually love the backs and would go 4 premos minimum in 2021
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Agreed. Marshall the only premium FWD I'm confident in starting at this stage. Marshall averaged 104 with Ryder last year, no concerns whatsoever for mine that he at a minimum matches that, and to be honest I expect him to probably outdo that. Back to full length quarters, Ryder another year older, I can see Ryder being managed further again this year as well. Throw in the RUC cover via Treacy and he's just too hard to pass up for mine.
Probably something for the FWDs thread, but nonetheless.
Probably something for the FWDs thread, but nonetheless.
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Career disposals avg: 18.5 from 66 matches
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 19: 114.75 from 32 (1/32 below 80, 9/32 below 100, 14/32 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 19: 74.32 from 34 (20/34 below 80, 28/34 below 100, 0/34 120+)
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 15: 105.65 from 48 (6/28 below 80, 20/48 below 100, 14/48 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 15: 62.67 from 18 (15/18 below 80, 17/18 below 100)
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 19: 114.75 from 32 (1/32 below 80, 9/32 below 100, 14/32 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 19: 74.32 from 34 (20/34 below 80, 28/34 below 100, 0/34 120+)
SC avg when disposals equal/exceed 15: 105.65 from 48 (6/28 below 80, 20/48 below 100, 14/48 120+)
SC avg when disposals below 15: 62.67 from 18 (15/18 below 80, 17/18 below 100)
Loving all the defender options this year.
Lloyd is a season killer. 16/17 tonnes is amazingly good with 13 of those 16 being 110+! Watching the seagull go huge every week just made me depressed not having him. Gonna just pay full price for him.
Laird basically a midfielder and was a great POD for me during the 2nd half. I'd say he's a bit underpriced.
It's my 3rd pick that is a bit up in the air.
Whitfield - Had a slow start to the year and was a bit inconsistent at times. I think I can get him cheaper.
Stewart - very consistent performer. Scored 10/14 tonnes.
Ryan - my favourite POD of the 2nd half of the year. Kick in specialist. Made me enjoy footy more when I had him. Really want to start him too but might wait for him to have the odd poor score. 13/17 tonnes.
McDonald - Broke out end of the year, could be a great POD pick.
Docherty - Started well but became a poor pick. Hopefully is value.
Williams - cheap but injury prone but being promised midfield role could be good.
Lloyd is a season killer. 16/17 tonnes is amazingly good with 13 of those 16 being 110+! Watching the seagull go huge every week just made me depressed not having him. Gonna just pay full price for him.
Laird basically a midfielder and was a great POD for me during the 2nd half. I'd say he's a bit underpriced.
It's my 3rd pick that is a bit up in the air.
Whitfield - Had a slow start to the year and was a bit inconsistent at times. I think I can get him cheaper.
Stewart - very consistent performer. Scored 10/14 tonnes.
Ryan - my favourite POD of the 2nd half of the year. Kick in specialist. Made me enjoy footy more when I had him. Really want to start him too but might wait for him to have the odd poor score. 13/17 tonnes.
McDonald - Broke out end of the year, could be a great POD pick.
Docherty - Started well but became a poor pick. Hopefully is value.
Williams - cheap but injury prone but being promised midfield role could be good.
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Macrae kreuger Rowe downie Perkins cockatoo durdin valente gulden Campbell Phillips e smith w Kelly Fullerton h Jones rcd berry stephens durdin brockman spicer and Laurie will all get games this year and are all mid forwards without naming high picks like pedlar bruhn stone and Powell
Think we’ll be fine for rookies up forward and in the mids
Think we’ll be fine for rookies up forward and in the mids
Just looking at Lloyd's history v the teams he plays in the first 5 rounds:-
Round 1 v Bris, SC Avg :- 98
Round 2 v Ade, SC Avg :- 86
Round 3 v Rich, SC Avg :- 91
Round 4 v Ess, SC Avg :- 85
Round 5 v GC, SC Avg :- 77
Quite surprising - we know he had 16 x 100's from 17 games last season but we also know that his scores were inflated/ unusual season.
With so many solid defender options & him being close to 100K more than anyone else, it is tempting to run the gauntlet & hope he drops in price. I did hear he missed training recently, had some issue but no idea what it was/ how serious.
Hard to squeeze all of Gawn/Grundy/Neale/Lloyd in - with Gawn/Grundy the clear top 2 in the rucks & Neale the top option in the mids (some can make a case for Jack Macrae but Bevo as his coach & so many quality mids at the dogs is a real concern for mine), I am just contemplating if Lloyd is the big premium you take a risk in not starting especially with the amount of quality defender options this year that are well priced.
Round 1 v Bris, SC Avg :- 98
Round 2 v Ade, SC Avg :- 86
Round 3 v Rich, SC Avg :- 91
Round 4 v Ess, SC Avg :- 85
Round 5 v GC, SC Avg :- 77
Quite surprising - we know he had 16 x 100's from 17 games last season but we also know that his scores were inflated/ unusual season.
With so many solid defender options & him being close to 100K more than anyone else, it is tempting to run the gauntlet & hope he drops in price. I did hear he missed training recently, had some issue but no idea what it was/ how serious.
Hard to squeeze all of Gawn/Grundy/Neale/Lloyd in - with Gawn/Grundy the clear top 2 in the rucks & Neale the top option in the mids (some can make a case for Jack Macrae but Bevo as his coach & so many quality mids at the dogs is a real concern for mine), I am just contemplating if Lloyd is the big premium you take a risk in not starting especially with the amount of quality defender options this year that are well priced.
