Discussion Things To Occupy Our Minds In The Break.

[Ironhawk]

Footytips.com.au (ESPN) are running a poll in coming days to determine the best footballer of all time, with 4 brackets of 16 from each of Aussie Rules, League, Union and Soccer. They also have this open for predicting (voting starts Wednesday). You can read more here:

https://www.espn.com.au/espn/story/...aller?ex_cid=espnau_footy_profile_home_module

The AFL bracket is tough. First round matches are:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi
John Coleman v Peter Hudson
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin

Similar to the random tipping I mentioned a while back, if there's enough interest I am happy to set up a comp here to predict the bracket. I've entered my predictions, but I am not expecting to do well outside of the AFL part, as I don't even recognise some of the names.

I am a little bit annoyed there was no interest in that random tipping actually - I'm doing quite well (top 50 out of 7000+ on the site after 5 rounds) - I might have done well at something here for a change.

 

[Pearcey47]

How does Dustin Martin get in to the conversation of one of the top 16 footballers of all time?

 

[Darkie]

How does Dustin Martin get in to the conversation of one of the top 16 footballers of all time?

100% agree. I thought there were some unusual choices/very lopsided match-ups listed, but Dusty’s name stood out the most to me.

I would have thought Danger and Buddy would be clearly ahead of him, even if they limited themselves to current players.

 

[Ironhawk]

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Forgot all about this until I saw an article about it on the AFL website today. Apparently from these simulations, Port would be the only undefeated team after 9 rounds. I find that hard to believe. Gold Coast winless in last is easier to believe.

I also missed one thing the first time it was posted, and that was that this was created by Max Barry. Most of you are probably unaware of him, but he is an author who previously previously created a site to promote one of his books called Nation States (nationstates.net). This site allows you to create and run your own nation, responding to issues and seeing how your choices impact your national economy, civil rights etc. I used to really enjoy that site, but haven't checked in on my nation for a few years now. Worth checking out.

 

[Connoisseur]

Forgot all about this until I saw an article about it on the AFL website today. Apparently from these simulations, Port would be the only undefeated team after 9 rounds. I find that hard to believe. Gold Coast winless in last is easier to believe.

I also missed one thing the first time it was posted, and that was that this was created by Max Barry. Most of you are probably unaware of him, but he is an author who previously previously created a site to promote one of his books called Nation States (nationstates.net). This site allows you to create and run your own nation, responding to issues and seeing how your choices impact your national economy, civil rights etc. I used to really enjoy that site, but haven't checked in on my nation for a few years now. Worth checking out.

A revolt against the previous regime?

 

[Ironhawk]

A revolt against the previous regime?

Maybe. More that I got sick of it. There's over 1000 issues to respond to now I believe (it only had 30 when Max started the site), I was around long enough to see most of them and you get lots of repeats. Decent community there (if you get into a good region, some aren't great), and they have fun events around Halloween and April Fool's day especially, I just moved on.

 

[Ironhawk]

Footytips.com.au (ESPN) are running a poll in coming days to determine the best footballer of all time, with 4 brackets of 16 from each of Aussie Rules, League, Union and Soccer. They also have this open for predicting (voting starts Wednesday). You can read more here:

https://www.espn.com.au/espn/story/...aller?ex_cid=espnau_footy_profile_home_module

The AFL bracket is tough. First round matches are:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi
John Coleman v Peter Hudson
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin

Similar to the random tipping I mentioned a while back, if there's enough interest I am happy to set up a comp here to predict the bracket. I've entered my predictions, but I am not expecting to do well outside of the AFL part, as I don't even recognise some of the names.

I am a little bit annoyed there was no interest in that random tipping actually - I'm doing quite well (top 50 out of 7000+ on the site after 5 rounds) - I might have done well at something here for a change.

Results are in for Rd 1:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni - 88%
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer - 76%
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall - 77%
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes - 70%
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten - 54%
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi - 67%
John Coleman v Peter Hudson - 57%
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin - 66%

I managed to tip 7/8 correctly, only missed on Coleman.

 

[Herbie66]

Results are in for Rd 1:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni - 88%
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer - 76%
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall - 77%
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes - 70%
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten - 54%
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi - 67%
John Coleman v Peter Hudson - 57%
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin - 66%

I managed to tip 7/8 correctly, only missed on Coleman.

wow

I wonder how many people don't even realise who Haydn Bunton was ? based on my reading he could possibly be in the top echelon ever

Skilton over Mr Football is a tough one as well.

Interesting concept.

 

[Ironhawk]

wow

I wonder how many people don't even realise who Haydn Bunton was ? based on my reading he could possibly be in the top echelon ever

Skilton over Mr Football is a tough one as well.

Interesting concept.

Yeah, figured it would come down to popularity and recency to an extent, Farmer is probably more well known to most people compared to Bunton as he is more recent and was in the news not too long ago when he died last year.

 

[Rowsus]

How in the he'll did Goodes get 30% of the votes against Gaz???!!!

People are stupid. They let 2 mistaken Brownlow blind them!

 

[Darkie]

Results are in for Rd 1:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni - 88%
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer - 76%
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall - 77%
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes - 70%
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten - 54%
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi - 67%
John Coleman v Peter Hudson - 57%
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin - 66%

I managed to tip 7/8 correctly, only missed on Coleman.

Interesting, on my first read I thought that Farmer and Hudson would be the only ones in the second column that I would seriously consider (not that I know the full story of all of these names). Seems like that’s not far off where it landed.

 

[Bermi]

Results are in for Rd 1:

Leigh Matthews v Stephen Silvagni - 88%
Haydn Bunton v Graham Polly Farmer - 76%
Tony Lockett v Jason Dunstall - 77%
Gary Ablett Jnr v Adam Goodes - 70%
Bob Skilton v Ted Whitten - 54%
Gary Ablett Snr v Ron Barassi - 67%
John Coleman v Peter Hudson - 57%
Wayne Carey v Dustin Martin - 66%

I managed to tip 7/8 correctly, only missed on Coleman.

I haven't seen all these greats play at their peak, so impossible to judge, but if I was forced to pick the best of them all, It's Matthews!

 

[Ironhawk]

https://squiggle.com.au/virtual/?game=202009

Let's hope the real season has a similar result.

 

[Rowsus]

https://squiggle.com.au/virtual/?game=202009

Let's hope the real season has a similar result.

Looks like it was a very exciting game to watch!