Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion
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Someone putting their hand up for a debut.
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Not often it happens but strongly disagree here again, twice in a week (and also probably 2 years)! In a team with Ridley, Redman, McGrath and Roberts as the other primary rebounding options, if I'm the other side I leave Shiel open at all costs to be the rebounder, to the level where I'd actually have his man running away from him when Essendon win the ball to ensure he gets as many touches as possible.
The question is whether he can kick long and/or hit short targets often enough to overcome the clangers that he's going to rack up left, right and centre. Shiel is also going to be very handy in one on one ground ball contests which can be worth a lot of points.
He's a great value pick, no reason he can't average 95+, I think his ceiling is probably towards the 110 mark just because of the kicking but most players who have hunted as efficiently as midfielders as he did will get a ton of it down back.
He definitely has trap potential though, durability is woeful and ball use might be even worse, those two things both can absolutely derail him. Early bye also removes a solid chunk of his value.
He's somewhere on the fringe of a trap, definitely could be a very good pick, definitely could be terrible but there's more than enough good reasons to pick him to not be a trap. There's also the pipe dream that he becomes a good kick at HB with the time and space. We've seen the likes of Boyd, Rioli and Lloyd all go from outright bad to shaky ball users to actually good, so it's always possible.
The round 0 match is going to be everything though, will be one of the guys I actually watch closest in that round as I do think there's a play there.
Please memory hole this one for when I take Shiel and it blows up in my face like I know it will deep down
Bring it out next year when I fall in love with the next HB move!
The question is whether he can kick long and/or hit short targets often enough to overcome the clangers that he's going to rack up left, right and centre. Shiel is also going to be very handy in one on one ground ball contests which can be worth a lot of points.
He's a great value pick, no reason he can't average 95+, I think his ceiling is probably towards the 110 mark just because of the kicking but most players who have hunted as efficiently as midfielders as he did will get a ton of it down back.
He definitely has trap potential though, durability is woeful and ball use might be even worse, those two things both can absolutely derail him. Early bye also removes a solid chunk of his value.
He's somewhere on the fringe of a trap, definitely could be a very good pick, definitely could be terrible but there's more than enough good reasons to pick him to not be a trap. There's also the pipe dream that he becomes a good kick at HB with the time and space. We've seen the likes of Boyd, Rioli and Lloyd all go from outright bad to shaky ball users to actually good, so it's always possible.
The round 0 match is going to be everything though, will be one of the guys I actually watch closest in that round as I do think there's a play there.
Please memory hole this one for when I take Shiel and it blows up in my face like I know it will deep down
Bring it out next year when I fall in love with the next HB move!
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Was already relevant before the injury but gather ownership will now increase due to the reactionary nature of the game. Very nice entry price with the potential to push near the 110+ range if he can improve his ceiling (130-150+). Was hoping he would fly under the radar given how emotional coaches are regarding poor past decisions and moronic never again lists.
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Regular season does not involve 26 players from each side fighting over 3300 points so best not to place too much emphasis on pre season scores. Style of play (less congested/more open, less pressure/intensity) or more experienced players taking a step back to allow opportunities for the younger players, along with juggling all the minutes and loads for players also distorts preseason scores.