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Which of the following apply to your current team? (multiple choice)

  • Starting with Libba (no Crouch or JOM)

    Votes: 92 38.7%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch (no JOM)

    Votes: 69 29.0%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch + JOM

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • Full GnR (no mid pricers)

    Votes: 19 8.0%
  • GnR + Libba (1 mid pricer in Libba only)

    Votes: 44 18.5%
  • Set and forget rucks

    Votes: 97 40.8%
  • Ruck cover (R/F in your forwardline)

    Votes: 45 18.9%
  • Spending big (starting 3 or more of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 37 15.5%
  • Spending less (starting 1 or less of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 70 29.4%
  • I will be starting with all 4 of Fyfe/ Ablett/Pendles/Rockliff

    Votes: 46 19.3%
  • Planning to start a POD no one has spoken about

    Votes: 43 18.1%

  • Total voters
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Hi SOG, personally I think this is the best structure to go with so well done.

The only thing at this stage that I don't like is Lobbe in R2, I think if you can find some cash from Shaw down and/or Dahlhaus down and Lobbe up to keeper ruck, it would be just about ideal.

Welldone :cool:
I'm thinking the same thing Deeman1:

This is what I'm leaving until NAB Cup is done and dusted at the moment.

DEF: Simpson, Bartel, Birchall, Malceski, Brown, Brown (S. Collins, Broad)
MID: Fyfe, Ablett, Pendles, Rockliff, Libba, Hopper, Kerridge, Sumner (Partington, Mathieson, Hibberd)
RUC: Goldstein, Lobbe (Mitch King)
FWD: Martin, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Franklin, Wells, Petracca (Grimley, McDonald-Tipungwuti)

Legend: KEEPER, KEEPER (hoping to find form - also looking at NAB performance)

WarChest: still got 154.9k to work with and make post-NAB changes (e.g. changes to any bold/underlined players and rookie selections)
 

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Bartel Birchall Yeo Malceski M. Brown Hartley (Rookie, Rookie)
Dangerfield Pendlebury J.P.Kennedy Rockliff Viney Hopper Kennedy Gresham (Mcaffer Trengrove Gore)
Martin Blicavs (Wyatt)
D. Martin Harvey Franklin J. Anderson Cockatoo Kerridge (Menadue Petracca)

Rookies will obviously change, bold are players I think I will start Round 1 with.

260K in the bank

Rookies to fill out the rest
 
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Thoughts Lads?

Bartel Birchall Yeo Malceski M. Brown Hartley (Rookie, Rookie)
Dangerfield Pendlebury J.P.Kennedy Rockliff Viney Hopper Kennedy Gresham (Mcaffer Trengrove Gore)
Martin Blicavs (Wyatt)
D. Martin Harvey Franklin J. Anderson Cockatoo Kerridge (Menadue Petracca)

Rookies will obviously change, bold are players I think I will start Round 1 with.

260K in the bank

Rookies to fill out the rest
Very interesting selections Spud.
- love Viney and he could break out this year if not used in a shut down role as much
- Yeo has plenty of upside. Watch over NAB to see where they use him (same goes for Eski)
- I see you have Anderson as a keeper? Big call.
- No Ablett?
 

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As a North supporter I'm not sold on Daniel Wells at this stage. 31 years old, has only had 5 seasons of 20 games or more since 2005 and has only averaged over 100 once in that time. I understand that he doesn't need to average anywhere near that to see price rise but I think the extra 100k-120k you save on him by getting a rookie and upgrading reliably elsewhere is much wiser. I tend to avoid North players apart from Goldstein in general because of predominantly low scoring anyway. However, will monitor VERY closely over the NAB and hopefully won't eat my words for the rest of the year!
 

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Very interesting selections Spud.
- love Viney and he could break out this year if not used in a shut down role as much
- Yeo has plenty of upside. Watch over NAB to see where they use him (same goes for Eski)
- I see you have Anderson as a keeper? Big call.
- No Ablett?
Thanks for the input.

-Anderson is a round 1 starter, not a keeper.
-No Ablett for me, He has burnt many sides before and with his injury history over the past two years I'm happy to leave him out. Its a risk, but between Pendles and Danger I'm happy.
-Viney is a jet, Rockliff 2.0
 
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Okay so here is my first attempt (of many) ahead of the NAB Cup.

Def: H. Shaw, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Bartel, J. Aish, E. Hipwood, R. Bonnet (M. Hibberd, N. Broad)
Mid: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, M. Crouch, T. Liberators, A. Francis, J. Trengove (C. Petracca, D.. Cunningham, J. Smith)
Ruc: N. Naitinui, B. Grundy (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, C. Wingard, J. De Goey, S. Kerridge, S. Grimly (T. Phillips, M. Brown)
Cash left: 11.1k

Thoughts?
 
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Okay so here is my first attempt (of many) ahead of the NAB Cup.

Def: H. Shaw, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Bartel, J. Aish, E. Hipwood, R. Bonnet (M. Hibberd, N. Broad)
Mid: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, M. Crouch, T. Liberators, A. Francis, J. Trengove (C. Petracca, D.. Cunningham, J. Smith)
Ruc: N. Naitinui, B. Grundy (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, C. Wingard, J. De Goey, S. Kerridge, S. Grimly (T. Phillips, M. Brown)
Cash left: 11.1k

Thoughts?
Not enough money left over in my book.

I like to go into the season with minimum $100k in the bank...

Having 5 $600k players might be too many...
 

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Okay so here is my first attempt (of many) ahead of the NAB Cup.

Def: H. Shaw, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Bartel, J. Aish, E. Hipwood, R. Bonnet (M. Hibberd, N. Broad)
Mid: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, M. Crouch, T. Liberators, A. Francis, J. Trengove (C. Petracca, D.. Cunningham, J. Smith)
Ruc: N. Naitinui, B. Grundy (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, C. Wingard, J. De Goey, S. Kerridge, S. Grimly (T. Phillips, M. Brown)
Cash left: 11.1k

Thoughts?
Not a massive fan of the Grundy pick tbh. If Witts was injured/traded i'd be all over him but while they're both playing i'm not sure. Feels like an awkward starter that will continue to hurt you...assuming you plan on keeping him that is.

Also B Crouch is well ahead of M Crouch for SC imo. $70-80k difference from memory as well which you could use elsewhere.
 

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Not enough money left over in my book.

I like to go into the season with minimum $100k in the bank...

Having 5 $600k players might be too many...
Every year i tell myself i should do this but never end up doing it. When do you generally use the funds? For rookie corrections or to upgrade a week early? Either way i can see the benefit
 
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Been playing around with a structure that allows for rucks set and forget. may have too many around the 200k mark but I don't mind it dependant on NAB form of course.

Def: J. Bartel, G. Birchall, E. Yeo, N. Malceski, C. Byrne, M. Brown (R. Bonner, N. Broad)
Mid: P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, T. Rockliff, O. Wines, T. Liberatore, C. Mills, D. Parish(C. Petracca, J. Gresham, B. Keays)
Ruc: T. Goldstein, N. Naitinui (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, M. Barlow, D. Wells, L. Duggan, J. Anderson, J. Simpkin, (S. Kerridge, S. Grimley)
Cash left: 1.5k

Thoughts?
 
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Here is team DAZZLER for now..
Surprisingly, I havent touched for like A WEEK..
Happy with all lines at the moment, Just keeping an eye on Polec, Greene, and I WILL replace Kommer with someone out of the NAB..

$27,200 left

DEF = KK, Yoe, D Rich, B Smith, ,A Francis, M Brown (Broad, Bonner)
MID = Fyfe, Dangerfield, Wines, Cripps, Liberatore, B Crouch, Polec, Wells (Cunningham, M Hibberd, Polkinghorne)
RUC = Gawn, Lobbe (Read)
FOR = Montagna, Martin, Wingard, Green, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer ???, Grimley)
 
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Okay so here is my first attempt (of many) ahead of the NAB Cup.

Def: H. Shaw, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Bartel, J. Aish, E. Hipwood, R. Bonnet (M. Hibberd, N. Broad)
Mid: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, M. Crouch, T. Liberators, A. Francis, J. Trengove (C. Petracca, D.. Cunningham, J. Smith)
Ruc: N. Naitinui, B. Grundy (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, C. Wingard, J. De Goey, S. Kerridge, S. Grimly (T. Phillips, M. Brown)
Cash left: 11.1k

Thoughts?
Really not sold on De Goey Grundy and Aish, as you're hoping for HUGE improvements from all 3 players.
 
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Here is team DAZZLER for now..
Surprisingly, I havent touched for like A WEEK..
Happy with all lines at the moment, Just keeping an eye on Polec, Greene, and I WILL replace Kommer with someone out of the NAB..

$27,200 left

DEF = KK, Yoe, D Rich, B Smith, ,A Francis, M Brown (Broad, Bonner)
MID = Fyfe, Dangerfield, Wines, Cripps, Liberatore, B Crouch, Polec, Wells (Cunningham, M Hibberd, Polkinghorne)
RUC = Gawn, Lobbe (Read)
FOR = Montagna, Martin, Wingard, Green, Kerridge, Petracca (Kommer ???, Grimley)
Like the team but too many midfield midpricers for me. Not sufficient cash generation and cant see any of Polec Wells and Crouch being keepers either. If you want a top scoring forward then Deledio would be my pick ahead of montagna
 
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Thoughts Lads?

Bartel Birchall Yeo Malceski M. Brown Hartley (Rookie, Rookie)
Dangerfield Pendlebury J.P.Kennedy Rockliff Viney Hopper Kennedy Gresham (Mcaffer Trengrove Gore)
Martin Blicavs (Wyatt)
D. Martin Harvey Franklin J. Anderson Cockatoo Kerridge (Menadue Petracca)

Rookies will obviously change, bold are players I think I will start Round 1 with.

260K in the bank

Rookies to fill out the rest
Can't fault most of the selections but I would definately find 100k somewhere and upgrade either JPK or Viney to Ablett.
 
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Okay so here is my first attempt (of many) ahead of the NAB Cup.

Def: H. Shaw, K. Kolodjashnij, J. Bartel, J. Aish, E. Hipwood, R. Bonnet (M. Hibberd, N. Broad)
Mid: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett, M. Crouch, T. Liberators, A. Francis, J. Trengove (C. Petracca, D.. Cunningham, J. Smith)
Ruc: N. Naitinui, B. Grundy (M. Cox)
Fwd: D. Martin, L. Dahlhaus, C. Wingard, J. De Goey, S. Kerridge, S. Grimly (T. Phillips, M. Brown)
Cash left: 11.1k

Thoughts?
Take a real close look at Aish over the NAB, Babylove. Track watchers haven't really been talking him up over the summer and at 275k, he's a bit pricey to not be at least tearing up the track at this time of the year.

While I'm at it, I saw Trelor in one or two teams a few pages back. He's still only really running rather than training (or at least that was the case a week ago) so I'd give him a miss too. Gee, if it wasn't for Howe going great guns I'd be fully lamenting our off season trading. Oh wait... :p

De Goey is going to be a little champ but I doubt that he is SC relevant this year. He'll definitely benefit in-game from Bucks not subbing him on or off so he's got that going for him but like Aish, he's at a price where he'll need to be hitting consistent 90 -100s in order to be a good pick for you and I think neither player has that in them this year. Him and Aish could/should be converted to a premo/rookie combo that will probably score you better points and get you better cash. You might need to free up some coin to do that though

Also, someone else mentioned having Langdon in their squad. He hurt his knee a few weeks back. Is back in training but caveat emptor.

Trengove is in doubt to start round 1, as is Petracca
 
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Not a massive fan of the Grundy pick tbh. If Witts was injured/traded i'd be all over him but while they're both playing i'm not sure. Feels like an awkward starter that will continue to hurt you...assuming you plan on keeping him that is.

Also B Crouch is well ahead of M Crouch for SC imo. $70-80k difference from memory as well which you could use elsewhere.
Really not sold on De Goey Grundy and Aish, as you're hoping for HUGE improvements from all 3 players.
I'll be starting Grundy.

Witts shouldn't impact on Grundy too much I think. Grundy is the clear number 1 ruck at Pieland now. Witts is a better ruck than forward, but better forward than Grundy, so is more likely to spend time in the forward 50. Both have been working a lot on their major weakness, that being overhead marking and at 202 cms and 207 cms, should be pretty dangerous around goal, especially if Cloke get's the roaming CHF commission that he appears to have slimmed down for. If we go with just the one ruck plus a forward chop out, then Grundy will be first picked and will get help from Moore or White. If we go with 2 rucks, then the opposition ruck will have Witts (7 ft tall and 110 kilos) softening them up for when Grundy gets back.

My concern is bench time, considering that we have a few lumbering big men in Grundy, Witts and Brown, while Cloke and Reid have only decent pace for their size. We might find that Witts and Grundy just make us too slow when they are both on the field. I'm not just concerned for the SC scores but as a Pies fan because that scenario is one small step away from one of our promising young rucks being banished to the VFL so that the more mobile Jessie White gets to have another crack at it.

Don't get me wrong, I want White to succeed and all but geez I can't see a lot more upside in him, especially compared to our young talls.

Anyway, whatever.... it's prolly a convo for a different forum. Back to the topic

The Pies have a really nice opening draw as far as the ruck/midfield thing is concerned. We play the following teams up to the bye this year and I have included Grundy's scores against these teams from last year

Sydney, 89
Richmond, 89, 90
StK, 98
Melb, 105, 64
Essendon, 91, 57 (inj)
WCE, 86
Carlton, 119, 95
Cats, 87, 125
Doggies, 108
Port, 78
Melb 105, 64

The highlighted scores are all the scores from the first 10 rounds last year, prior to him sustaining a freak neck injury at training. To that point, he had 10 games for an average of 93 (98 in the six games against this year's opponents) but didn't look like quite the same player after coming back from a month's layoff, averaging only 88 from his last 9 games.

His career to date has given averages (over games) of 74.8 (6), 62.8 (15), 91.1 (19) which, whilst being very encouraging for a young ruck, also means he only needs to add another 10 or so ppg in his 4th year to be quite a useful R2. This is eminently do-able in my view - just needs 2 more hitouts to advantage per game or to hold one of those contested marks an kick it long. Again, had it not been for that neck injury, he would probably have played all 22 games last year, meaning he has the fitness and approval from the coach to go a full year. Furthermore, the coaches want him to play out full seasons as they want to be challenging again in the next couple of years and need game hardened ruckmen to do it. The scars of Charman and Keating (and Ottens in the 07 prelim) still haven't healed.

Pre-season wise, he's having a very solid pre-season.

Oh and also, his midfield looks to be getting pretty decent too. Remember a ruckman needs his mids to get first dibs in order to get the points and with Pendles, Treloar, Adams, Greenwood and even Crisp roving to him he's got some pretty useful first touch winners at his feet. Swan should still make it to a few contests too, especially to boundary throw ins in the forward line, where he can be hugely dangerous (as can Sidebottom and checkout Broomhead if he clicks). Hello goal assists :)

So yeah... I'm bullish on the lad. I'm hoping for a 10ppg improvement to 20+ games at 100 - 105.
 
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And here's my squad. Ruck reasoning above. Hopefully Grundy to be a keeper at R2

Backs: KK, Bartel, Birchall, Yeo, B Smith, M Brown (M Hartley, R Bonner)
Mids: Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Wines, Libba, Kerridge, Jansen, Petracca (Gore, Hiscox, Mathieson)
Rucks: Grundy, Lobbe (Wyatt)
Forwards: Chopsticks, Barlow, Zerrett, Buddy, Christensen, Kommer (Adams, Tippa)

125k to spare which I want to be an upgrade into Simpkin. If I need more cash for 200k players, I'll make the call on Libba.

Still on the shopping list then is one of McVeigh and Simpson in back. Danger, Fyfe and one of Selwood or JPK in the mids, Goldy in ruck and one of Wingard, Deledio or Zorko up forward. That's 6 upgrades, probably at 2.5 trades per upgrade. Tippett can be supersub and I'll get a fallen premium back so Bartel can supersub mids and backs. Say 4 more trades there and I'm done with 11 for correctios and injuries. Not ideal, but it will do I think
 

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The Cripps pick interests me. From memory his average jumps up a few points when Judd doesn't play (albeit small sample size) and with another preseason under his belt you would expect him to improve again and add to that natural improvement.

Out of curiosity how set are you on him and what do you see him averaging this year?
 

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Hi SOG, personally I think this is the best structure to go with so well done.

The only thing at this stage that I don't like is Lobbe in R2, I think if you can find some cash from Shaw down and/or Dahlhaus down and Lobbe up to keeper ruck, it would be just about ideal.

Welldone :cool:
Thanks Deeman. Very nervous about the Lobbe pick. I'm thinking of doing exactly what you said to upgrade him. Cheers for the feedback.
 
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