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I agree mate.
- If Mcgrath is going to be your D5 I think 185k is too much to spend on your Def bench. You could consider McGrath at D4 but that depends on a whole lot we won't know about until preseason games
- Like many I like the look of Sandi and R2, that said if you are going to do that I think Giles as R3 negates the advantage you have of more onfield pts due to the cheap Sandi spend. I think that's the dilemma. If Sandi gets injured, great you've got Giles buttttt....now you've got Giles! in that case you should just set and forget. Points is, if you have Sandi and no Giles and sandi goes down - you shouldve just set and forget!
- Is Taranto really going to get a good run at it? Hopper is/was a gun but there were better cheaper picks than him last year. I'm staying away from GWS rooks.
- I think you are a couple of keepers short. Look at F3 as a first priority i reckon
- If Mcgrath is going to be your D5 I think 185k is too much to spend on your Def bench. You could consider McGrath at D4 but that depends on a whole lot we won't know about until preseason games
- Like many I like the look of Sandi and R2, that said if you are going to do that I think Giles as R3 negates the advantage you have of more onfield pts due to the cheap Sandi spend. I think that's the dilemma. If Sandi gets injured, great you've got Giles buttttt....now you've got Giles! in that case you should just set and forget. Points is, if you have Sandi and no Giles and sandi goes down - you shouldve just set and forget!
- Is Taranto really going to get a good run at it? Hopper is/was a gun but there were better cheaper picks than him last year. I'm staying away from GWS rooks.
- I think you are a couple of keepers short. Look at F3 as a first priority i reckon
Thanks very much mate, much appreciated, scrimshaw is meant to be my d6 but every time I click save it puts Berry on field. After hearing your thoughts on my rucks, I tend to agree with you and will look at a few changes tonight. Agree with you 100% on Tarranto, at this stage majority of the rookies are just placeholders and have put in Tarranto and a few other expensive rookies to allow a bit of flexibility depending on what rookies arise between now and round 1 therefor I won't be able to over spend on keepers and need to rechange my team more than needed, if that makes sense?
You know i was just about to ask you how much cash left johnsy because i couldn't figure out how you only ended up with 12.5 premos...then i saw your bench!
I know rookies at this stage of the year are only place fillers but noticed you don't have Myers. Any reason for that?
I think your structure is very workable as long as you can add another premo somewhere.
I know rookies at this stage of the year are only place fillers but noticed you don't have Myers. Any reason for that?
I think your structure is very workable as long as you can add another premo somewhere.
Yes i had a very expensive bench, still unsure if i should start Sandi or go set and forget.
No reason in particular as he is dirt cheap and has the job security, if there are plenty of rookies on offer i most likely wont start him but otherwise will be considered.
After a slight shuffle i have managed to squeeze Dahl into my side
No reason in particular as he is dirt cheap and has the job security, if there are plenty of rookies on offer i most likely wont start him but otherwise will be considered.
After a slight shuffle i have managed to squeeze Dahl into my side
My thoughts on Rucks/Fwds cover issue?
I haven't actually completely decided one way or the other yet. I have however generally in the past been strongly in the Set and Forget camp, and could be very likely to take this path again in 2017. But I'm certainly giving the idea of starting a $300k ruck (stepping stone?) type more thought this year than i ever have in past.
So being that my $300k ruck is quickly approaching middle age, I'd say anyone thinking of going down this path needs to seriously think of investing in some sort of insurance or have a damn solid get out plan( this is often easier said than done ). Although something would have to have gone horribly wrong between now and Rnd1 for me to even contemplate having either Giles or Boyd in my starting squad.
I haven't actually completely decided one way or the other yet. I have however generally in the past been strongly in the Set and Forget camp, and could be very likely to take this path again in 2017. But I'm certainly giving the idea of starting a $300k ruck (stepping stone?) type more thought this year than i ever have in past.
So being that my $300k ruck is quickly approaching middle age, I'd say anyone thinking of going down this path needs to seriously think of investing in some sort of insurance or have a damn solid get out plan( this is often easier said than done ). Although something would have to have gone horribly wrong between now and Rnd1 for me to even contemplate having either Giles or Boyd in my starting squad.
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Thanks mate, appreciate you coming back on this.
Just to clarify, my plan wouldn't be to start Giles or Boyd, although I do think they could still prove useful in a sense. If I recall/interpret your comment last year correctly, it was essentially that you need to have a good get out plan if you start an R2 around $300k, because if they get injured early on, you usually can't downgrade to a rookie (no rookie rucks playing, typically) and you can't upgrade them (not enough cash generation yet), so you could even be looking at taking donuts, or burning multiple trades to fix the one problem (downgrade elsewhere to upgrade in the ruck - although even that could be hard if a Goldy or Gawn type was $600k, say).
The nuance in 2017 could be that if Sandi gets injured, we could simply sideways to Giles or Boyd, because there is >1 option at around that price range. It's still an injury trade used, although every player carries that risk to varying degrees, it's just that a cheap R2 may no longer be the special case that it might be in most years.
I'm actually firming on Ryder as a forward pick anyway, given (1) Lobbe's manager's comments about Lobbe struggling to be the number one ruck, and (2) the likelihood of the forward line being lower scoring in 2017, so you don't have a big negative POD if Ryder averages, say, 95.
It's good to have options though, which I think was the crux of your original point!
Just to clarify, my plan wouldn't be to start Giles or Boyd, although I do think they could still prove useful in a sense. If I recall/interpret your comment last year correctly, it was essentially that you need to have a good get out plan if you start an R2 around $300k, because if they get injured early on, you usually can't downgrade to a rookie (no rookie rucks playing, typically) and you can't upgrade them (not enough cash generation yet), so you could even be looking at taking donuts, or burning multiple trades to fix the one problem (downgrade elsewhere to upgrade in the ruck - although even that could be hard if a Goldy or Gawn type was $600k, say).
The nuance in 2017 could be that if Sandi gets injured, we could simply sideways to Giles or Boyd, because there is >1 option at around that price range. It's still an injury trade used, although every player carries that risk to varying degrees, it's just that a cheap R2 may no longer be the special case that it might be in most years.
I'm actually firming on Ryder as a forward pick anyway, given (1) Lobbe's manager's comments about Lobbe struggling to be the number one ruck, and (2) the likelihood of the forward line being lower scoring in 2017, so you don't have a big negative POD if Ryder averages, say, 95.
It's good to have options though, which I think was the crux of your original point!
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Can't stray from this team at the moment. My hand will no doubt be forced due to injuries/rookie availability, but this is ideally the premiums I'd like to carry in to R1.
Can't stray from this team at the moment. My hand will no doubt be forced due to injuries/rookie availability, but this is ideally the premiums I'd like to carry in to R1.
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I think Hibberd almost won the 1-4 year time trial at the start of their preseason. Seems to be over his knee injury (from memory he did an ACL). He was one of the sliders on the 2015 draft (although got drafted at pick 33).
http://www.nmfc.com.au/player-profile/mitchell-hibberd
http://www.nmfc.com.au/player-profile/mitchell-hibberd
doc-adams-laird-howe-thurlow-newman ryan and stewart
danger-treloar-bont-swallow-mcgrath-foote-powellpepper-myers barrett,fox and graham
grundy and ryder cameron
dahlhaus-macrae-caddy-heeney-petracca-mcluggage ainsworth and knight
obviously spent big in the forwards luckily all the back and mid rookies let me do it
maybe its a bit to much in the forwards but its better to overspend now than try and do it in the real season
danger-treloar-bont-swallow-mcgrath-foote-powellpepper-myers barrett,fox and graham
grundy and ryder cameron
dahlhaus-macrae-caddy-heeney-petracca-mcluggage ainsworth and knight
obviously spent big in the forwards luckily all the back and mid rookies let me do it
maybe its a bit to much in the forwards but its better to overspend now than try and do it in the real season
Looks pretty good to me Min. A few comments:
- Heppell kind of stands out to me - is he someone you're really keen on? If not, I'd move him on and try to uograde him, or strengthen another area. He's not yet shown he can have an elite season, and he's come off a long break.
- Vince looks nice and durable, but I'd probably only pick him if you think he can bounce to his 2014-15 levels. Low 90s may not be enough in defence this year.
- Your rookies are largely pretty cheap. For preseason at least, I typically put some dear ones in purely to take up cash, so you don't get too set on a structure/set of players that actually aren't viable by the time the year starts. It's always easier to upgrade than downgrade without running the risk of a lot of knock-on issues. It's obviously early days, but the forward rookies seem to be looking deep at this point nearer to the $200k mark. For what it's worth, I have 15 rookies as well, and mine are priced a total of about $250k above yours.
Other than maybe trimming a premium to balance things up a bit, I think your side is looking pretty solid. Good luck.
- Heppell kind of stands out to me - is he someone you're really keen on? If not, I'd move him on and try to uograde him, or strengthen another area. He's not yet shown he can have an elite season, and he's come off a long break.
- Vince looks nice and durable, but I'd probably only pick him if you think he can bounce to his 2014-15 levels. Low 90s may not be enough in defence this year.
- Your rookies are largely pretty cheap. For preseason at least, I typically put some dear ones in purely to take up cash, so you don't get too set on a structure/set of players that actually aren't viable by the time the year starts. It's always easier to upgrade than downgrade without running the risk of a lot of knock-on issues. It's obviously early days, but the forward rookies seem to be looking deep at this point nearer to the $200k mark. For what it's worth, I have 15 rookies as well, and mine are priced a total of about $250k above yours.
Other than maybe trimming a premium to balance things up a bit, I think your side is looking pretty solid. Good luck.
+1 - very interested in the D/M rookie swing this year. Seems the strongest swing set to me for players at a decent price.
EG If i think Berry and Hibberd will get games this year I will strongly consider at M11, D9 even if they aren't playing R1. This worked great last year with Petracca who came in at about R6 after working admirably as a floating donut and also gave the rookies a nicer spread of maturing in price
EG If i think Berry and Hibberd will get games this year I will strongly consider at M11, D9 even if they aren't playing R1. This worked great last year with Petracca who came in at about R6 after working admirably as a floating donut and also gave the rookies a nicer spread of maturing in price
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