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[Luskin Star]

I was the opposite, I put together a team of 14 premiums very easily with heaps of fat in the rookies if the higher priced rookies are the only real options. Biggest issue I can see arising however is will there be 5 rookies between my forwards and backs that I can trust to start on field?

I think you will have no trouble get 5 rookies in fwd/def. McGrath, McLuggage, rioli, pickett, newman, ryan , williams all look likely

 

[Frankel]

Hi guys. This is my first draft, would appreciate some feedback. Thanks!

Montagna, Vince, McDonald, V-Willis, Newman, Hibberd (Ryan, Stewart)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, P-Pepper, Myers (Poholke, Graham, Deluca)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch, Gunston, Roughy, McCluggage (Brown, Eddy)

164k remaining. Not sure where best to spend the change....Witts at r3?

 

[teatai]

Hi guys. This is my first draft, would appreciate some feedback. Thanks!

Montagna, Vince, McDonald, V-Willis, Newman, Hibberd (Ryan, Stewart)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, P-Pepper, Myers (Poholke, Graham, Deluca)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch, Gunston, Roughy, McCluggage (Brown, Eddy)

164k remaining. Not sure where best to spend the change....Witts at r3?

good structure all round love the uniqueness you got in Gunston and with Vince and McDonald also but with 164k i would look to upgrade one of Vince or McDonald or maybe both up to you to a Laird/Rance/Shaw/Adams type solely because i recommend and probably everyone else would to have at least 1 or 2 players that i have mention in your team because its likely they would be in the top 6 defenders
hope this helps

 

[Mudflap]

That's quite a history with the game you have Mudflap! Hopefully the below is helpful:

- I'd be interested in what you are expecting from Higgins and Daw this year?

Hope this helps, good luck for a better 2017.

Thanks Darkie. Some good advice for me to work through. I do love a POD but last year and draft 1 this year have probably taken that a little far.

Probably something for another thread but my first year of Dream Team was 1994 or 1995 in the Australian newspaper.

In terms of Higgins and Daw:

Higgins averaged 95 at North in 2015. Last year he was injured but it was one injury rather than multiple niggling muscle injuries. I am willing to back him in to play 20 plus and at least replicate the 95 (or better).

Daw does not do enough in games but everything he does scores well. He is the type of player that can score 80 with 10 possessions (last year got 92 with 8 possessions and 87 with 10 ). If he shows in the pre season that he is capable of touching the pill 12 - 13 times a game I will try to find a way to get him in (although he is at an awkward price).

Cheers

 

[Frankel]

good structure all round love the uniqueness you got in Gunston and with Vince and McDonald also but with 164k i would look to upgrade one of Vince or McDonald or maybe both up to you to a Laird/Rance/Shaw/Adams type solely because i recommend and probably everyone else would to have at least 1 or 2 players that i have mention in your team because its likely they would be in the top 6 defenders
hope this helps

Thanks Teatai for your reply. Yeah I am a bit different to most people it seems in that I'm finding defence very difficult re premium selections. Seems like there's a lot of old players who are fully priced and also younger fragile players like Adams, Laird and Johannisen. I'm kinda hoping the rookies are plentiful down there!

 

[nath_99]

Hi Everyone,

This is only my second year doing SC and this is my first time putting up my team.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers, Nath



Backs:

Docherty, Shaw, Laird
Mcgrath, Sharenberg, Newman Bench: Hibberd (Mitch), Ryan.


MIDS:

Danger, Pendles, Ablett , Bont
Fyfe, Jobe, Mcluggage, Bowes Bench: Myers, Barrett, Freeman



Rucks:

Gawn , Grundy , Strndica


FWD's:


Dalhaus, Roughead, Hoskin-Eliot
McCarthy, Ainsworth, Ahern BENCH: Stewart, Rioli


Q) Docherty/Laird or Adams?

Thanks guys

 

[Darkie]

Hi guys. This is my first draft, would appreciate some feedback. Thanks!

Montagna, Vince, McDonald, V-Willis, Newman, Hibberd (Ryan, Stewart)
Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, P-Pepper, Myers (Poholke, Graham, Deluca)
Goldy, Sandi (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Lynch, Gunston, Roughy, McCluggage (Brown, Eddy)

164k remaining. Not sure where best to spend the change....Witts at r3?

Nice side, and good advice from Frankel. Rance is 27, about as durable as they come, and has the R12 bye which would help your balance. Personally I'd use that cash (you can always bring in Witts later if you need him) to upgrade a def, get some dearer rookies as needed, or look at moving Gunston or Lynch up to a premium mid, and trade the forward in after a few low scores.

 

[Darkie]

Thanks Darkie. Some good advice for me to work through. I do love a POD but last year and draft 1 this year have probably taken that a little far.

Probably something for another thread but my first year of Dream Team was 1994 or 1995 in the Australian newspaper.

In terms of Higgins and Daw:

Higgins averaged 95 at North in 2015. Last year he was injured but it was one injury rather than multiple niggling muscle injuries. I am willing to back him in to play 20 plus and at least replicate the 95 (or better).

Daw does not do enough in games but everything he does scores well. He is the type of player that can score 80 with 10 possessions (last year got 92 with 8 possessions and 87 with 10 ). If he shows in the pre season that he is capable of touching the pill 12 - 13 times a game I will try to find a way to get him in (although he is at an awkward price).

Cheers

No worries MudFlap, thanks for your thoughts. I'd say 20+ @ 95 for Higgins looks challenging, although we might have said a similar thing for Shaw some years ago, and now he's at the very pointy end of the defs list. Daw is an interesting one - I was mainly keen to see whether you thought he'd share a lot of ruck time with Goldy, especially given that you didn't pick Goldy. It sounds like this isn't a major concern as things stand.

 

[Diabolical]

Hi Everyone,

This is only my second year doing SC and this is my first time putting up my team.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers, Nath



Backs:

Docherty, Shaw, Laird
Mcgrath, Sharenberg, Newman Bench: Hibberd (Mitch), Ryan.


MIDS:

Danger, Pendles, Ablett , Bont
Fyfe, Jobe, Mcluggage, Bowes Bench: Myers, Barrett, Freeman



Rucks:

Gawn , Grundy , Strndica


FWD's:


Dalhaus, Roughead, Hoskin-Eliot
McCarthy, Ainsworth, Ahern BENCH: Stewart, Rioli


Q) Docherty/Laird or Adams?

Thanks guys

Welcome nath,

Your team looks pretty good for second season - I wish I learned that quickly!! This site has some great insight from great consistent SC players - it you listen you will improve quickly.

My take on your team:
Docherty & Shaw seem a big outlay having both, I would go one or the other and look for more value in defence.

I like your mids, and sticking by Ablett could be a good move, but if doing that I wouldn't risk starting Jobe.

In your rucks, I think you need Sandy - he is just too much value (so long as he gets through pre season) and most will have him, so you won't lose ground if he breaks down early.

I think that savings made above could be used to help strengthen your forwards, as I feel you need another one or two premiums there.

Good luck.

 

[Darkie]

Hi Everyone,

This is only my second year doing SC and this is my first time putting up my team.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers, Nath



Backs:

Docherty, Shaw, Laird
Mcgrath, Sharenberg, Newman Bench: Hibberd (Mitch), Ryan.


MIDS:

Danger, Pendles, Ablett , Bont
Fyfe, Jobe, Mcluggage, Bowes Bench: Myers, Barrett, Freeman



Rucks:

Gawn , Grundy , Strndica


FWD's:


Dalhaus, Roughead, Hoskin-Eliot
McCarthy, Ainsworth, Ahern BENCH: Stewart, Rioli


Q) Docherty/Laird or Adams?

Thanks guys

Hi Nath - welcome aboard! A few comments/suggestions:

- Your forwards look very light with only one premium-priced player. I think you need at least one more. Macrae would be an easy choice. I understand Ahern is injured as well.

- To raise cash, I'd look at Sandi over whoever you like least out of Gawn and Grundy.

- Ablett could be a great POD if he is fit, playing midfield and fully motivated. There are probably some question marks over all three of those things for me, so he's a bit risky - I'd consider Rocky as a broadly similar player, or JPK/Selwood for someone very solid.

- I'd struggle a little with picking Watson over Beams or Murphy. Maybe just check that you're confident that you prefer Jobe.

- Of the three defs you asked about, I'd have Laird clearly first. Doc has scored, but is priced, extremely highly and I think could be bought cheaper later on, and Adams is essentially a mid (albeit not a particularly high scoring one) who is very injury prone. I don't have a strong preference between the two, but you could look at Montagna or Rance as other options if you wanted to broaden the pool.

- I'd have a look at your bye composition as well - you look quite light for R12 players. Rance and Goldy could help.

Good luck!

 

[nath_99]

Thanks @Diabolical!

One of my work colleagues is a supercoach nut and has helped me. He may or may not be on this site hahaha

I see your point about Docherty and Shaw, I suppose the best thing about this, is it is only Rd 1, plenty of time to trade out the dead wood haha.

I think trading out Docherty could free up some capital for some other prem players.

I just feel Ablett is too good to refuse, when he plays well (albeit he's injury prone) he plays well.

As an Essendon fan, I just feel Jobe is going to have a big year. He has been criticised for only averaging 95 in 2015... when he only played 10 games, as he was injured lol. If you take the whole season in account, he could have been great. I think at that price, he is worth taking a risk on. He'll be hungry as hell after the 12 months and he'd be like a man possessed after losing (unfairly) the brownlow.

Yeah, the Rucks, were a tough choice.. I like Gawn but heard Grundy was a good option too..

I did think of adding another forward, maybe Macrae? only prob is, when Bulldogs have their bye, both Dalhaus and Macrae are out haha

Thanks for your reply mate

Go Bombers!!

 

[KLo30]

Hi Everyone,

This is only my second year doing SC and this is my first time putting up my team.

Let me know what you think.

Cheers, Nath

Backs:
Docherty, Shaw, Laird
Mcgrath, Sharenberg, Newman Bench: Hibberd (Mitch), Ryan.
MIDS:
Danger, Pendles, Ablett , Bont
Fyfe, Jobe, Mcluggage, Bowes Bench: Myers, Barrett, Freeman
Rucks:
Gawn , Grundy , Strndica
FWD's:
Dalhaus, Roughead, Hoskin-Eliot
McCarthy, Ainsworth, Ahern BENCH: Stewart, Rioli
Q) Docherty/Laird or Adams?


Thanks guys

Welocome Nath, please introduce yourself in the Members Inroduction thread (http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/151-Member-Introductions-and-Anything-Else-You-Care-to-Share!)

Firstly, Ahern will not play this season due to his knee injury. You are thin in the forward line, where it seems, that rookies will be short on supply. Spending a little less in Defense and using that in the Forwards would be good compromise.

Hope to see you as an active more of our site.

 

[nath_99]

Hi Nath - welcome aboard! A few comments/suggestions:

- Your forwards look very light with only one premium-priced player. I think you need at least one more. Macrae would be an easy choice. I understand Ahern is injured as well.

- To raise cash, I'd look at Sandi over whoever you like least out of Gawn and Grundy.

- Ablett could be a great POD if he is fit, playing midfield and fully motivated. There are probably some question marks over all three of those things for me, so he's a bit risky - I'd consider Rocky as a broadly similar player, or JPK/Selwood for someone very solid.

- I'd struggle a little with picking Watson over Beams or Murphy. Maybe just check that you're confident that you prefer Jobe.

- Of the three defs you asked about, I'd have Laird clearly first. Doc has scored, but is priced, extremely highly and I think could be bought cheaper later on, and Adams is essentially a mid (albeit not a particularly high scoring one) who is very injury prone. I don't have a strong preference between the two, but you could look at Montagna or Rance as other options if you wanted to broaden the pool.

- I'd have a look at your bye composition as well - you look quite light for R12 players. Rance and Goldy could help.

Good luck!

Cheers Darkie!,

You bring up some good points, I'll take em on board

Yeah bye composition is an interesting one.. I did the supercoach gold bye projections and one of the rounds is really weak haha, relying on Danger and 2-3 others to have blinders, to get me anywhere near 1000 for the round haha.

I have to keep reminding myself (only my 2nd year) it's a long season and who I choose at the start could change early, mid or late and some players I don't have will be great to upgrade to and some who I have, may play badly...

I'm fairly confident with the rookies, especially McGrath and Mcluggage.

Thanks for your reply mate, I appreciate it

 

[nath_99]

Welocome Nath, please introduce yourself in the Members Inroduction thread (http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/151-Member-Introductions-and-Anything-Else-You-Care-to-Share!)

Firstly, Ahern will not play this season due to his knee injury. You are thin in the forward line, where it seems, that rookies will be short on supply. Spending a little less in Defense and using that in the Forwards would be good compromise.

Hope to see you as an active more of our site.

Thanks mate, I will

 

[Mudflap]

I was mainly keen to see whether you thought he'd share a lot of ruck time with Goldy, especially given that you didn't pick Goldy. It sounds like this isn't a major concern as things stand.

It may be hard to know our true ruck set up prior to round 1 as Daw may not play any pre season games . My view now is that Daw will take over at least the amount of ruck work that Ben Brown did last season and probably a little more. Either way I am expecting his points to come from contested possessions and marks.

 

[KLo30]

It may be hard to know our true ruck set up prior to round 1 as Daw may not play any pre season games . My view now is that Daw will take over at least the amount of ruck work that Ben Brown did last season and probably a little more. Either way I am expecting his points to come from contested possessions and marks.

Daw works better as a high forward/wing. Moving about tackling, marking around the ground and kicking into the deep forwards, being Waite and Brown, and occasionally taking the ruck duties. Well worthwhile as a selection if he is fit and takes this role. A deep forward he is not.

 

[aj74]

Happy new year, everybody

First real crack for the year. Taking a punt on Mills, Heeney and Grundy gives this lineup.

JJ, Howe, Mills, Hampton, Hibberd, EVW (Newman, Kielty)
Dangerfield, Pendles, Selwood, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Ainsworth, Brodie (PP, Myers, Picket)
Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Hoskin-Elliott, McCarthy, McLuggage (Black, Rioli)

About 35k left for rookie emergency upgrades. With 6 rookie priced players at 160k or more, I should be able to find a bit more cash at R1 selection as well, perhaps allowing an upgrade of one of the young Swans. The plan is to go as full GnR as I can

A bit round 11 heavy and I normally like going an extra premium deep in the FWDs and BAKs but how about that midfield?

 

[Prochard]

Happy new year, everybody

First real crack for the year. Taking a punt on Mills, Heeney and Grundy gives this lineup.

JJ, Howe, Mills, Hampton, Hibberd, EVW (Newman, Kielty)
Dangerfield, Pendles, Selwood, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Ainsworth, Brodie (PP, Myers, Picket)
Goldstein, Grundy (Strnadica)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Heeney, Hoskin-Elliott, McCarthy, McLuggage (Black, Rioli)

About 35k left for rookie emergency upgrades. With 6 rookie priced players at 160k or more, I should be able to find a bit more cash at R1 selection as well, perhaps allowing an upgrade of one of the young Swans. The plan is to go as full GnR as I can

A bit round 11 heavy and I normally like going an extra premium deep in the FWDs and BAKs but how about that midfield?

Like your midfield, hard to see it going wrong.
For rucks this year it's either One of the 3 Gs+Sandilands or two of the 3 Gs. Too early to tell at this stage but Grundy+Goldstein could easily work.
We have the same forward line except I have ScottishSuitCase+Bowes ahead of Hoskin Elliot and Mccarthy. Can't see either hoskin Elliot or Mccarhy average mroe than 75 if they even make it to 70.

Now for defence, I think you're trying to be too creative picking these players. For defence this year I think 95 average is the absolute lowest you could take for D6, and both JJ(92-98) and Howe(90-95) are on the lower of the acceptable range. Both have concerns over their fitness/role/durability. There're much better players at the same price, same goes for Mills.

I think if you fix up your defence it's potentially a very good team, but I'm 100% not taking any of JJ, Howe, Mills, Hibberd into r1, and this is when I'm planning to start 5 Def premiums. I have about 8-9 defence premium picks before JJ/Howe, but that's just me.

 

[Manikato1]

Trying an alternate team set up to my original draft team. Would this work? Got a few left field selections but I'm not unhappy with that. Have 90k left


Def Shaw, Rance, Lloyd (Mid), Keefe, Hampton, Berry (Mid), Long (Fwd), Vickers-Willis
Mid Danger, Jelwood, Treloar, Coniglio, Wills(Fwd), Fyfe, D Swallow, SPP, Myers, Hibberd (Def) R Clarke(Fwd)
Ruck Goldy, Sandy Cameron (Fwd)
Fwd N Riewoldt, Dahl, Heeny, Ryder (Ruc), Bolton (Mid), Rioli, Lamb, Deluca (Mid)

 

[Darkie]

Cheers Darkie!,

You bring up some good points, I'll take em on board

Yeah bye composition is an interesting one.. I did the supercoach gold bye projections and one of the rounds is really weak haha, relying on Danger and 2-3 others to have blinders, to get me anywhere near 1000 for the round haha.

I have to keep reminding myself (only my 2nd year) it's a long season and who I choose at the start could change early, mid or late and some players I don't have will be great to upgrade to and some who I have, may play badly...

I'm fairly confident with the rookies, especially McGrath and Mcluggage.

Thanks for your reply mate, I appreciate it

No worries nath - I'd say you're doing very well if you're just starting your second year, I suspect many of us would have had bunch of horrid mid-pricers and list cloggers in their side at the same point ... I know I did

Two things I'd add:

(1) The byes are a balancing act. [Arguably, the whole game is.] You don't want to pick someone just because of their bye, but if you can even up your "exposure", they're a very good way to make up ground - if someone can get 1,800 the week you get 1,000, that's obviously a very large "headstart". If you really can't find anyone you like in R12, that's fair enough, although it's probably wise to quantify the points you expect to gain in the other rounds, versus the points you'll miss out on that round. Quantifying all of your trade-o*** in points makes things pretty clear, I find - so if in doubt, try to boil it down to which approach gives you the most points overall over the season (ie, considering cash and trades used).

(2) As you say, it is a long season. I find that working backwards works well for me, as a way to ensure you start well, and remain on target ... step one in planning a long journey would be determining your destination! Have a think about what your ideal end of year side would look like based on what you know currently, and look to start the players in that list that look some combination of the most discounted/most durable/most certain to be top scorers/most consistent scorers. [If they score inconsistently, that's okay, but you're more likely to get them really cheap at some point, so they're more of an upgrade target than a starter, all else equal.]. This also helps ensure you don't jump on someone in a purple patch who doesn't have great prospects of keeping up their scoring ... you obviously want to buy low, not high! I think your starting picks generally look very solid on those criteria, so you're in good shape.