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Just had a real hard look at the likely R1 Rookies and the current perceived drought is real in my opinion.

Some coaches (and I've already heard them loud and clear over the past week) will stick to the mantra that 'Rookies will be named, they always will'. My question/doubt is how many will fit that 'quick cash generation' mould to help us get to full premiums as quickly as possible which has been the key prerequisite for previous winning teams. What I'm alluding to here is how many of those Rookies named for R1 will 1) play that SC friendly role or 2) has the JS to string together 5 or 6 games...? As I see it right now, most of the more desirable Rookies (outside from being pricey) are either currently injured or are playing for a 'contending' team.

I hope that Marsh 2 provide further evidence to squash my current outlook, but as it stands right now, I'm finding it difficult to find 6 Rookies that I would have complete confidence to field let alone finding another 7 cash cows to fill my benches!
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Just had a real hard look at the likely R1 Rookies and the current perceived drought is real in my opinion.

Some coaches (and I've already heard them loud and clear over the past week) will stick to the mantra that 'Rookies will be named, they always will'. My question/doubt is how many will fit that 'quick cash generation' mould to help us get to full premiums as quickly as possible which has been the key prerequisite for previous winning teams. What I'm alluding to here is how many of those Rookies named for R1 will 1) play that SC friendly role or 2) has the JS to string together 5 or 6 games...? As I see it right now, most of the more desirable Rookies (outside from being pricey) are either currently injured or are playing for a 'contending' team.

I hope that Marsh 2 provide further evidence to squash my current outlook, but as it stands right now, I'm finding it difficult to find 6 Rookies that I would have complete confidence to field let alone finding another 7 cash cows to fill my benches!
I agree. Makes for a more interesting season IMO.
 
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Just had a real hard look at the likely R1 Rookies and the current perceived drought is real in my opinion.

Some coaches (and I've already heard them loud and clear over the past week) will stick to the mantra that 'Rookies will be named, they always will'. My question/doubt is how many will fit that 'quick cash generation' mould to help us get to full premiums as quickly as possible which has been the key prerequisite for previous winning teams. What I'm alluding to here is how many of those Rookies named for R1 will 1) play that SC friendly role or 2) has the JS to string together 5 or 6 games...? As I see it right now, most of the more desirable Rookies (outside from being pricey) are either currently injured or are playing for a 'contending' team.

I hope that Marsh 2 provide further evidence to squash my current outlook, but as it stands right now, I'm finding it difficult to find 6 Rookies that I would have complete confidence to field let alone finding another 7 cash cows to fill my benches!
So we should be looking at 25 players around the $ 300k mark and starting Grundy , Gawn , Rowell , Pickett & Comben.

Should be fun
 
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Personally I think their will be more than enough $ 200k or less options in defence to choose from + the likes of Birchall , Lukosius , Roberton etc etc

God help us if for some reason Rowell & Pickett are not named Round 1 , if the cheapies for the bench don't appear maybe we have to go Serong or Green etc or take a punt on Hibberd being close.

Hill at F5 + should be 3 x $123,900.00 types surely.

Time will tell
 

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Most optimal team will hit circa $13M in team value around the MBRs which means we have to find a way of generating that extra $3M worth of value. It goes without saying that the Rookies have a big bearing on how close we get to reaching that threshold. This is where having a group of 'cash generating' bench Rookies is just as important as your starting Premiums or on-field Rookies as this will ultimately determine whether you can complete your team within a reasonable timeframe or not.

From what I can gather, a lot of teams are leaning towards a core group of 'overpriced' Premiums in that they are priced at their maximum and unlikely to appreciate beyond their starting price. This is an important consideration as it will make our task of reaching that $13M all the more harder, meaning a heavier reliant on the Rookies and most probably a handful of MPs to generate the required funds.

Still another round of Marsh and a couple of week until we know the full extent of the Rookies, but it's worth keeping at the back of our minds that we may have to resort to 'new' or 'uncharted' method of cash generation for this year. This could entail a number of possibilities, more MPs, higher priced Rookies, cheaper R2 to name a few. Most of this approach to your starting team is generally frowned upon and for good reasons, however, if you're willing to explore 'outside the box' it could reap some handsome reward in the long run.

Don't be like those coaches who swears by their 'never again' list, instead I would advise that we keep ALL options open for the coming season as I just have a feeling that it's going to be one out of the box!
 
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Most optimal team will hit circa $13M in team value around the MBRs which means we have to find a way of generating that extra $3M worth of value. It goes without saying that the Rookies have a big bearing on how close we get to reaching that threshold. This is where having a group of 'cash generating' bench Rookies is just as important as your starting Premiums or on-field Rookies as this will ultimately determine whether you can complete your team within a reasonable timeframe or not.

From what I can gather, a lot of teams are leaning towards a core group of 'overpriced' Premiums in that they are priced at their maximum and unlikely to appreciate beyond their starting price. This is an important consideration as it will make our task of reaching that $13M all the more harder, meaning a heavier reliant on the Rookies and most probably a handful of MPs to generate the required funds.

Still another round of Marsh and a couple of week until we know the full extent of the Rookies, but it's worth keeping at the back of our minds that we may have to resort to 'new' or 'uncharted' method of cash generation for this year. This could entail a number of possibilities, more MPs, higher priced Rookies, cheaper R2 to name a few. Most of this approach to your starting team is generally frowned upon and for good reasons, however, if you're willing to explore 'outside the box' it could reap some handsome reward in the long run.

Just like those coaches swear to their 'never again' list, I would advise that we keep ALL options open for the coming season as I just have a feeling that it's going to be one out of the box!
You have raised a highly pertinent point "where's ya cash coming from?"

I too have that core group of highly priced Mids, couple of reasons, good scoring and hopefully no upgrades.

For the moment I have:

Hill....................D5
Oliver..............M5
Naismith........R2
D. Smith.........F5

I'm seeing the best cash generating rookies in the mids, so I have Rowell, Greene and Pickett on the field. Gould (for now) at D6, and Hosie at F6.

But by running a team like this requires me to have probably all of my bench rookies earning $, currently it's not looking that way with, Williams, Keane, Rivers, Mahony, Budarick, Comben, Rankine and Cameron. My fallback position is to lose Whitfield and spend a bit more on the bench rookies, which is probably not going to be enough. I know it's frowned upon to have high priced rookies on the bench, but I might have to go that way to, firstly provide cash and secondly to provide better cover.
 
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To complete my recent assertions, below is how I've rank the Rookie priced players (under $207,300) prospect for R1 post Marsh 1. Note that I'm only looking at those who started in M1 and wasn't benched for the 2nd half. This could change for M2 but it's as good as an indicator we have right now.

Strong chance
Zerk-Thatcher
Rowell, Pickett
King

Pending Marsh 2 - Likely with another strong performance
Ash, S Hill*, Mcasey*, Young*, Brander, Gould, Greaves, Butts, Williamson, B Williams
Anderson, Green, D Stephens, Serong, McInerney
Bonar, Mahony, Sparrow, Kropinyeri-Pickett, McAdam, Budarick, Georgiades

Pending Marsh 2 - Less likely
Kennerley, McLennan, McBride, Watson, Keane
C Stephens, Caldwell, Collier-Dawkins, T Brown
Sweet
Davis, Close, Treacy, Sturt, Rankine*, Xerri, Cameron

*Didn't play M1 but are highly rated
 
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I think it’s rare to get all 8 bench players generating the cash we want. There are always the rookie fails it’s almost unavoidable. We just need them named then you take the punt that you find a Wilkie or a Miers that surprise.
 

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Apologies guys but has anyone seen/got a link to a spreadsheet resource with Marsh games players scores/TOG etc thank you in advance
 
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Is Anderson such a bad pick over the likes of Caldwell , D Stephens , Serong , Greene etc etc.

Obviously more expensive but wouldn't his JS be better , surely the Suns play him as much as possible , so wouldn't he be a "safer" starting pick ?
 
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Is Anderson such a bad pick over the likes of Caldwell , D Stephens , Serong , Greene etc etc.

Obviously more expensive but wouldn't his JS be better , surely the Suns play him as much as possible , so wouldn't he be a "safer" starting pick ?
You would think so, I have Bonar on the bench in the Mids mainly because of his DPP advantage, but at the same price I'm considering Anderson.
 
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You would think so, I have Bonar on the bench in the Mids mainly because of his DPP advantage, but at the same price I'm considering Anderson.
Anderson seems to be the one forgotten and barely mentioned.

Hopefully Bonar plays the next game and North are close to full strength , still not sure on whether to start him at F4 myself or not (still think you need to take the rookies if they are named Round 1)
 
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Anderson seems to be the one forgotten and barely mentioned.

Hopefully Bonar plays the next game and North are close to full strength , still not sure on whether to start him at F4 myself or not (still think you need to take the rookies if they are named Round 1)
The way I'm structured he would have to come in for Greene or Serong, which he may well do.
 
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The way I'm structured he would have to come in for Greene or Serong, which he may well do.
I am working with Rowell , Anderson , Caldwell , Serong , Green & Pickett at the moment.

Honestly can't see the point making teams with $ 117k mids who have less chance than me in playing Round 1 , just gives a "false" picture to your onfield team and will create all sorts of problems come Round 1.

Might put Bonar & Hill back at F4/F5.
 
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