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[Herbie66]

Eden Park

watched a Test there in 2005 , sat on the boundary at deep square leg , think if I reached over the fence could have touched the square leg umpire on the back.

the Kiwis insisted on bowling short to Punter , I nearly had to call for a helmet ?

Rob Nicol was sub fielding , he over heard me saying "don't bowl short to Punter" , he replied you think they might have learnt after the 4th or 5th boundary

postage size stamp ground with very weird dimensions

 

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[Darkie]

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Jacques Kallis always comes to mind for me.

Sangakkara and Pollock also in the mix.

 

[Darkie]

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Spoiler: Guesses

The first one almost certainly relates to triple hundreds. I’ll say they all have 2+ in Tests.

On the second one, I’ll say Warne even though he took fewer wickets, because his teammates were better and were more likely to have taken six.

 

[Herbie66]

Jacques Kallis always comes to mind for me.

Sangakkara and Pollock also in the mix.

Definitely agree with Kallis & Sangakkara.

Sangakkara's batting record with out the WK gloves is superior to Lara , Ponting & Tendulkar but is rarely spoken about in the same terms , similar to Kallis who statically is probably only behind Sobers as a all rounder in history.

Good call on Pollock as well.

 

[Connoisseur]

Spoiler: Guesses

The first one almost certainly relates to triple hundreds. I’ll say they all have 2+ in Tests.

On the second one, I’ll say Warne even though he took fewer wickets, because his teammates were better and were more likely to have taken six.

Both correct.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-best-record-overall-world-cup-win-percentage

As a follow-up to last week's question about bowlers taking eight wickets on debut without a five-for, who has done this most often overall in Tests? asked Ashok from the United States

The ever-dependable Statsguru informs me that there have been no fewer than 157 instances of a bowler taking eight wickets in a Test without a five-for, or four in each innings. Two usual suspects lead the way: Shane Warne did it seven times, and Muttiah Muralitharan six. Three other Australians, all pace bowlers, managed it three times: Wayne Clark, Brett Lee and Dennis Lillee.

 

[Herbie66]

Barry Richards is another one , sadly only 4 Tests , oh what could have been.

 

[Herbie66]

But Lara's second triple is actually a quadruple century

 

[Darkie]

Definitely agree with Kallis & Sangakkara.

Sangakkara's batting record with out the WK gloves is superior to Lara , Ponting & Tendulkar but is rarely spoken about in the same terms , similar to Kallis who statically is probably only behind Sobers as a all rounder in history.

Good call on Pollock as well.

Taking a look at the comments, Dravid, Chanderpaul and Ross Taylor were all frequently mentioned.

Very few bowlers are mentioned ... maybe people don’t even recognize how underrated some of them are?!

 

[Connoisseur]

Definitely agree with Kallis & Sangakkara.

Sangakkara's batting record with out the WK gloves is superior to Lara , Ponting & Tendulkar but is rarely spoken about in the same terms , similar to Kallis who statically is probably only behind Sobers as a all rounder in history.

Good call on Pollock as well.

Agree with all the aforementioned. Shivnarine Chnderpaul, Rangana Herath, Younis Khan, Michael Hussey and Ravichandran Ashwin to name a few.

 

[Herbie66]

Taking a look at the comments, Dravid, Chanderpaul and Ross Taylor were all frequently mentioned.

Very few bowlers are mentioned ... maybe people don’t even recognize how underrated some of them are?!

I remember being in Bangalore in 2010 and when the Indian openers were walking out to bat the crowd were already chanting "Sachin , Sachin" , and Dravid is a Bangalore boy ?

Ross Taylor has probably got "lost" in the Crowe to Fleming to McCullum to Williamson transition.

Walsh could be another of the Bowlers under rated.

 

[Darkie]

Agree with all the aforementioned. Shivnarine Chnderpaul, Rangana Herath, Younis Khan, Michael Hussey and Ravichandran Ashwin to name a few.

All good selections in my view.

Andy Flower, who averaged 50 in an early Zimbabwean team, is another good call I saw posted.

 

[Herbie66]

Agree with all the aforementioned. Shivnarine Chnderpaul, Rangana Herath, Younis Khan, Michael Hussey and Ravichandran Ashwin to name a few.

Herath certainly improved dramatically once Murali left the scene

 

[Herbie66]

I wonder if Anderson and Broad are both under rated especially outside of England , might have to look up there records in other countries.

Years ago when I kept a heap of stats , I generally looked at how OS players performed in Australia and judged them a lot on those performances.

 

[Herbie66]

Herath 433 Test wickets currently 10th on the list between Kapil Dev 434 & Sir Richard 431.

 

[Herbie66]

Agree with all the aforementioned. Shivnarine Chnderpaul, Rangana Herath, Younis Khan, Michael Hussey and Ravichandran Ashwin to name a few.

Shakib Al Hasan would be another one.

 

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