Discussion 2021: AFL Pre-Season Practice Matches & AAMI Community Series Discussion

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The Williams incident :-

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Clark went down, but was back on his feet quite quickly before going to the bench to be assessed.

St Kilda medical staff gave him the all-clear to return after a few minutes & also after watching vision of the bump.
 
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In: Hill, Williams, Lonie, Hunter. Am I doing this right?

Feels like a lot is going to be read into this game re: particular players and scoring rates with the new rules. The way this one's been played so far I think doing either would be a mistake.
 
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It's actually amazing but statistically he is. He goes at 58% which ranks 35th at the Giants with only Taranto, Greene, Coniglio and Hopper really below him who are all pretty well known for bad kicking. Dangerfield for comparison goes at 57% but he is a vastly more contested player. For the type of player Kelly is, which is a balanced midfielder, he's a particularly bad disposer of the ball. Basically he disposes at a rate similar to Oliver/Dangerfield heavily contested guys as opposed to at the 63% type range of the more balanced. In comparison a guy like Pendles is at 68% playing a similar role.

It totally fails the eye test as he has a genuinely brilliant kicking action and technique but the stats don't support the eye test at all in this situation. He looks like an elite kick and executes at a very poor level.
57% is not a bad disposer of the ball for a midfielder, it's bang in the middle as average (94th of 174 among mids) and he's almost as average a midfielder in profile of equal inside/outside (104 of 174 for contested possession rate). However the sheer volume of contested possessions would explain this, he's 46th for average contested possessions, so he still kicks a fair bit under pressure and explains the pure efficiency being a bit low.

I think this also has a lot to do with the kind of kicks he attempts versus the other guys. Danger often kicks long to packs (which is an effective disposal as long as your team has over 50% of the players at the contest), whereas Kelly tries the lower percentage kicks, ones that are more spectacular when pulled off.

You'll also find that Dusty has a poor kicking efficiency but you'd have to be pretty brave to say he's not a good kick. You can tell more about who is a good kick by looking at total effective kicks, and Kelly was 11th for average effective kicks, six of the guys ahead of him are wingers.
 
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In: Hill, Williams, Lonie, Hunter. Am I doing this right?

Feels like a lot is going to be read into this game re: particular players and scoring rates with the new rules. The way this one's been played so far I think doing either would be a mistake.
This, have to be careful in not reading too much into these types of games.

Main thing for me is to see what role/position players I have my eye on are playing & how they are looking (fitness wise). So easy to get suckered into picking players purely from looking at their stats/ how much they score. I will be interested to see for example how much Brad Hill's ownership now rises after this game. Don't get me wrong - Hill is a fine player, elite runner/link up player & exactly what the saints need but I don't feel he is SC relevant at his starting price as he will not have the same freedom in the real games.
 
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The Williams incident :-

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Need to see it from other angles -
Clark went down, but was back on his feet quite quickly before going to the bench to be assessed.

St Kilda medical staff gave him the all-clear to return after a few minutes & also after watching vision of the bump.
Hopefully there's not much seen to be in it
 
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