Position SC 2021: Forward Discussion

Which ‘keepers’ are you planning on starting with?

  • Dangerfield

    Votes: 44 63.8%
  • Sidebottom

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dunkley

    Votes: 38 55.1%
  • Zorko

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Dusty

    Votes: 22 31.9%
  • Heeney

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • Greene

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De Goey

    Votes: 8 11.6%
  • Phillips

    Votes: 19 27.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 10.1%

  • Total voters
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Some will make it, we just don't have enough info on who yet...
50% chance it is someone who surname starts with B 😉

Very tempted to start at least one of them (the one who plays for the 🦁) but probably safer to wait.

Injuries to Marshall , Sidebottom.& Walters makes the forward mix a lot more interesting.

Zorko possibly now not affected as much with Rayner's injury.
 
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Will be fascinated to see how close to the Top 10 Butters , Bolton , Bailey , Ryan & Phillips get along with Heeney.
My gut feel says that we're looking at a 95 mark for the bottom couple of forward premiums.

Danger - Safe to be top tier and should be 105+, conservatively.

Sidebottom - Injured to start the season, priced at basically career highs, though I do think the rule changes will be good to him but decent case he's a 100-105 guy.

Hawkins - Total wildcard with his scoring history but adding Cameron you'd think impacts him a bit, so lets say 95.

Dunkley - Should be 95+, role could produce anything really but 95+ for 3 straight years.

Marshall - Injured to start the year, kind of injury that should hurt his fitness, rucks could be down in general and reckon he salvaged last year more than most, could easily see low 90s.

Martin - Should be in this range.

Walters - Injured and was playing a lot more forward anyway. Think he's a mid 90s guy.

Zorko - Has injury problems and was also forward a lot. He definitely could be 105+ but I think 95+ is more conservative estimate.

So basically I'd say something like 2 105+, 2 ~100 and the rest ~95, means that you've got spots of 90+ being good enough if the value is there, reckon only Bolton and Butters of that group need to hit 95, the rest cheap enough to do 90+. Probably all of them would be equal or better starting picks at 95+ to those two at ~100 as well, 70k from Martin to Butters should produce 13 points a week elsewhere if used properly which is well ahead of the 5 per week gap in the forwards.

My current strategy is definitely to target value in the forwards this year unless I've totally misread them and there is a whole bunch of elite 105+ guys. Leaning towards Dunkley and Dangerfield as the starting plays as the two who, imo, are most likely to go 110+ and then I think we get all of the Butters, Phillips, Caldwell or whomever types that hit 95+ for significantly less than paying for it from the start from others or even just get the starting premiums on the cheap.

Been wrong plenty of times before though, nekminnit the backs fall to pieces and the forwards are where we should have overloaded :LOL:
 
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My gut feel says that we're looking at a 95 mark for the bottom couple of forward premiums.

Danger - Safe to be top tier and should be 105+, conservatively.

Sidebottom - Injured to start the season, priced at basically career highs, though I do think the rule changes will be good to him but decent case he's a 100-105 guy.

Hawkins - Total wildcard with his scoring history but adding Cameron you'd think impacts him a bit, so lets say 95.

Dunkley - Should be 95+, role could produce anything really but 95+ for 3 straight years.

Marshall - Injured to start the year, kind of injury that should hurt his fitness, rucks could be down in general and reckon he salvaged last year more than most, could easily see low 90s.

Martin - Should be in this range.

Walters - Injured and was playing a lot more forward anyway. Think he's a mid 90s guy.

Zorko - Has injury problems and was also forward a lot. He definitely could be 105+ but I think 95+ is more conservative estimate.

So basically I'd say something like 2 105+, 2 ~100 and the rest ~95, means that you've got spots of 90+ being good enough if the value is there, reckon only Bolton and Butters of that group need to hit 95, the rest cheap enough to do 90+. Probably all of them would be equal or better starting picks at 95+ to those two at ~100 as well, 70k from Martin to Butters should produce 13 points a week elsewhere if used properly which is well ahead of the 5 per week gap in the forwards.

My current strategy is definitely to target value in the forwards this year unless I've totally misread them and there is a whole bunch of elite 105+ guys. Leaning towards Dunkley and Dangerfield as the starting plays as the two who, imo, are most likely to go 110+ and then I think we get all of the Butters, Phillips, Caldwell or whomever types that hit 95+ for significantly less than paying for it from the start from others or even just get the starting premiums on the cheap.

Been wrong plenty of times before though, nekminnit the backs fall to pieces and the forwards are where we should have overloaded :LOL:
Fantastic insights.

And if Dixon could actually convert his chances he has the opportunity to outscore them all.

I am looking at starting Danger , Dusty , Dunkley as I think they will probably be still top in their position , so may as well start them.

Depending on Marshall's recovering I guess I target him , so then leaves 2 spots.

Mind you I have just been making myself a 2 rookie only onfield side that certainly has potential.
 
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I would love to pick De Goey, I just can't trust his body. I reckon he's had 2 or 3 injuries/niggles this preseason alone. But he is a guy who could potentially explode and be a 100-110ppg guy with a permanent midfield role.
 
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I would love to pick De Goey, I just can't trust his body. I reckon he's had 2 or 3 injuries/niggles this preseason alone. But he is a guy who could potentially explode and be a 100-110ppg guy with a permanent midfield role.
He's too effective as a forward. He's no Toby Greene but it's the same theory.
 

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I Heeney:
Wins: 102.21 from 38 (16/38 below 100, 10/38 120+)
2017: 100.36 from 14
2018: 103.29 from 14
2019: 94.75 from 8
2020: 137.5 from 2

Losses: 88 from 29 (21/29 below 100, 3/29 120+)
2017: 87.75 from 4
2018: 85.86 from 7
2019: 93.64 from 14
2020: 72.25 from 4
 
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Just looking at Josh Treacy's AFL Draft Central profile.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/josh-treacy/

It has his height at 194cm and describes him as having "predominantly played as a tall forward who occasionally pushed further up the ground. With a good o***eason behind him, it was hoped he might play more as an inside midfielder, with his strength, penetrating kick, and size all features of his game."

Absolutely no mention of him playing as a ruck. How the hell did he get ruck status? (not complaining)

I guess that explains why he and Meek are both in contention.
 
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Just looking at Josh Treacy's AFL Draft Central profile.

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/josh-treacy/

It has his height at 194cm and describes him as having "predominantly played as a tall forward who occasionally pushed further up the ground. With a good o***eason behind him, it was hoped he might play more as an inside midfielder, with his strength, penetrating kick, and size all features of his game."

Absolutely no mention of him playing as a ruck. How the hell did he get ruck status? (not complaining)

I guess that explains why he and Meek are both in contention.
Funny isn't it ?

All the initial talk was he was taking Taberner's place yet when Lobb was injured (from what I have read) the options mentioned are :-

* Darcy to play forward , Meek to ruck
* Fyfe to play forward more
* Pearce to go forward

can't recall anything about Treacy being a option in the ruck or supporting ruck at all
 
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