Discussion 2021 Round 6: Teams & In Game Discussion
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Quick Thoughts - Swans vs Suns
General - Was a pretty decent game. One team showed up with a desire to go hard and the other didn't, conditions were good and there wasn't really anything that stood out to me from the gamestyles, umpiring was terrible (no impact on result, just bad calls and a desire to be the focus of the game, shocking from a Ray game...)
Suns - Showed up with some serious intent, repeat tackling, harassment everywhere and just kept working forward and back, just completely out efforted the Swans. Also used it with some class going forward and hit a lot of targets. Played some genuinely decent football.
Miller - Off the chain in the first quarter and was great, kept working despite a pretty good tag that did drop in the last 10 minutes and he did wax it at that point.
Holman - Ratio brutal for mine, he was exceptional. His pressure work on another level to everyone on the field, 13 tackles and must have had another dozen pressure acts, if he was within the view on screen he was going to cause problems. Great game.
Anderson - Solid hard working game linking up.
Ainsworth - Quality ball use to him and then by him, key chain man and played well.
King - Swans defenders didn't seem to get the memo to work him off the ball, let him run and jump and he had a field day.
Bowes - Swans didn't provide enough pressure which meant the ball just went straight forward so nothing sideways for him.
Farrar - Ratio was brutal for mine, he was exceptional. Soundly beat Heeney, provided some link up work and hit targets all day by foot, I reckon he should have had at least twice the CP that he was given, seemed to get judged extremely harshly. Most importantly, I reckon he's a genuine option next week, looks to be a solid 70+ role to me that he's settled into and just played great. Reckon he'd get a nice bunch of B&F votes for his game.
Flanders - Actually played really well but if I'm paying a premium for a Sun FWD at 190k it's Farrar every day of the week.
Markov - Similar to Bowes, just was too easy getting it out of defense for him to get the quanity needed.
Swans - Absolutely dreadful. Horse is obviously back in the coaches seat and whoever was manning it for the first month has been given the flick. All the text book Horse decisions were in force, sacrifice the midfield, bomb it to the outnumber, baffling rotations and decisions, sadly, this game was the one that just made sense to me as a Swans fan. My quote to a few mates "Fully expecting us to get smashed here" 5 minutes before the game started and nothing changed. Just a terrible game for the Swans, almost nothing positive here...
Kennedy - He was really good, turned back the clock a bit. Was one of our few winners.
Mills - Was probably the best player on the field for mine and a complete class above the rest of the Swans, only guy who looked like hitting a teammate, pressure work was top notch. Still got thrown into defense for extended periods after Hewett went down and then in the 3rd when we were playing like asshole. He was so good in the midfield though (he was good down back also). Kind of game you deserve the 3 votes but would be lucky to get one because of the rest of the team.
Sinclair - God... rucking against no one and I'm not sure he managed to get a hitout to advantage that didn't require Kennedy, Mills or Parker to break 3 tackles. Honestly, he's actually alright up forward and as a 2nd ruck but he's just no good.
Lloyd - Was absolutely dreadful, his ratio is so incredibly generous, he had a hand in just about all of the Suns early goals and about the best thing I could say is he had a couple of nice spoils. Honestly no idea how he managed to have one clanger or 82% DE because it felt like half his touches hit the Suns. Was quite possibly the worst game I've seen him play.
Parker - Almost certainly the worst game I've seen him play. Can't question his effort but his decision making and execution were dreadful. His ratio is also incredibly generous for mine.
Warner - The guy who cops Lloyd and Parker's amazingly good ratios is Warner who was actually really decent. Started on a wing in the first quarter and scored well all things considered, then put a tag on Touk Miller and did a really good job of it (Miller scored 95 of his 135 sans tag and most of the stuff in the middle was the 9 tackles). Played great and was one of our best imo.
Florent - Dreadful. Really struggling after a good start and has regressed back into his pumpkin mode of the past couple of years.
Dawson - Had an absolute mare, like Lloyd, not sure he hit a teammate all day.
Rowbottom - Started in the guts, was useless, then went to HF/Wing with the Warner tag taking his spot and wasn't much better. Just that guy who does something bad to cancel out everytime he does something good.
Heeney - When we kick like that and play like that, he'll score like this. The hand didn't seem to have any real impact on him, the 15 minutes we were competitive he scored fine but bad Swans are back and his role remains terrible.
Hayward - Back into a potato he turns. Showed so much last week, basically did the opposite this week.
Gulden - Had a mare, fumbled everything, rushed a couple of kicks and got burned by the teams kicking and decision making on multiple occasions. Could also be due a rest.
Campbell - Came on at 1/4 time, I don't know why you'd pick a guy you want to rest as the sub and then when you have to play him you still commit entirely to giving him a rest. Especially when Blakey has you down a rotation playing through a severe cork but here we are with Horse, if splinters in his ass were worth SC points he'd have tonned up the last 3 weeks. Thought his ratio early was harsh, he was really good, as the game went on he rushed a few kicks/handballs and missed targets for his clangers and he missed several tackles you have to make at this level. Doesn't help his cause that Lloyd and Dawson kept putting their head down and isolating on Suns to kick to instead of hitting him in space either.
General - Was a pretty decent game. One team showed up with a desire to go hard and the other didn't, conditions were good and there wasn't really anything that stood out to me from the gamestyles, umpiring was terrible (no impact on result, just bad calls and a desire to be the focus of the game, shocking from a Ray game...)
Suns - Showed up with some serious intent, repeat tackling, harassment everywhere and just kept working forward and back, just completely out efforted the Swans. Also used it with some class going forward and hit a lot of targets. Played some genuinely decent football.
Miller - Off the chain in the first quarter and was great, kept working despite a pretty good tag that did drop in the last 10 minutes and he did wax it at that point.
Holman - Ratio brutal for mine, he was exceptional. His pressure work on another level to everyone on the field, 13 tackles and must have had another dozen pressure acts, if he was within the view on screen he was going to cause problems. Great game.
Anderson - Solid hard working game linking up.
Ainsworth - Quality ball use to him and then by him, key chain man and played well.
King - Swans defenders didn't seem to get the memo to work him off the ball, let him run and jump and he had a field day.
Bowes - Swans didn't provide enough pressure which meant the ball just went straight forward so nothing sideways for him.
Farrar - Ratio was brutal for mine, he was exceptional. Soundly beat Heeney, provided some link up work and hit targets all day by foot, I reckon he should have had at least twice the CP that he was given, seemed to get judged extremely harshly. Most importantly, I reckon he's a genuine option next week, looks to be a solid 70+ role to me that he's settled into and just played great. Reckon he'd get a nice bunch of B&F votes for his game.
Flanders - Actually played really well but if I'm paying a premium for a Sun FWD at 190k it's Farrar every day of the week.
Markov - Similar to Bowes, just was too easy getting it out of defense for him to get the quanity needed.
Swans - Absolutely dreadful. Horse is obviously back in the coaches seat and whoever was manning it for the first month has been given the flick. All the text book Horse decisions were in force, sacrifice the midfield, bomb it to the outnumber, baffling rotations and decisions, sadly, this game was the one that just made sense to me as a Swans fan. My quote to a few mates "Fully expecting us to get smashed here" 5 minutes before the game started and nothing changed. Just a terrible game for the Swans, almost nothing positive here...
Kennedy - He was really good, turned back the clock a bit. Was one of our few winners.
Mills - Was probably the best player on the field for mine and a complete class above the rest of the Swans, only guy who looked like hitting a teammate, pressure work was top notch. Still got thrown into defense for extended periods after Hewett went down and then in the 3rd when we were playing like asshole. He was so good in the midfield though (he was good down back also). Kind of game you deserve the 3 votes but would be lucky to get one because of the rest of the team.
Sinclair - God... rucking against no one and I'm not sure he managed to get a hitout to advantage that didn't require Kennedy, Mills or Parker to break 3 tackles. Honestly, he's actually alright up forward and as a 2nd ruck but he's just no good.
Lloyd - Was absolutely dreadful, his ratio is so incredibly generous, he had a hand in just about all of the Suns early goals and about the best thing I could say is he had a couple of nice spoils. Honestly no idea how he managed to have one clanger or 82% DE because it felt like half his touches hit the Suns. Was quite possibly the worst game I've seen him play.
Parker - Almost certainly the worst game I've seen him play. Can't question his effort but his decision making and execution were dreadful. His ratio is also incredibly generous for mine.
Warner - The guy who cops Lloyd and Parker's amazingly good ratios is Warner who was actually really decent. Started on a wing in the first quarter and scored well all things considered, then put a tag on Touk Miller and did a really good job of it (Miller scored 95 of his 135 sans tag and most of the stuff in the middle was the 9 tackles). Played great and was one of our best imo.
Florent - Dreadful. Really struggling after a good start and has regressed back into his pumpkin mode of the past couple of years.
Dawson - Had an absolute mare, like Lloyd, not sure he hit a teammate all day.
Rowbottom - Started in the guts, was useless, then went to HF/Wing with the Warner tag taking his spot and wasn't much better. Just that guy who does something bad to cancel out everytime he does something good.
Heeney - When we kick like that and play like that, he'll score like this. The hand didn't seem to have any real impact on him, the 15 minutes we were competitive he scored fine but bad Swans are back and his role remains terrible.
Hayward - Back into a potato he turns. Showed so much last week, basically did the opposite this week.
Gulden - Had a mare, fumbled everything, rushed a couple of kicks and got burned by the teams kicking and decision making on multiple occasions. Could also be due a rest.
Campbell - Came on at 1/4 time, I don't know why you'd pick a guy you want to rest as the sub and then when you have to play him you still commit entirely to giving him a rest. Especially when Blakey has you down a rotation playing through a severe cork but here we are with Horse, if splinters in his ass were worth SC points he'd have tonned up the last 3 weeks. Thought his ratio early was harsh, he was really good, as the game went on he rushed a few kicks/handballs and missed targets for his clangers and he missed several tackles you have to make at this level. Doesn't help his cause that Lloyd and Dawson kept putting their head down and isolating on Suns to kick to instead of hitting him in space either.
