Discussion 2022: Rate My Team
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I'd say Gibcus has similar scoring potential to Butts last year who made 160k from the same starting price. Cox made 125k from similar starting point. Lever way back in the day I think is the most direct comparison and would have made 150k from the same starting point (made 170k). He intercepts and he is very adept at finding space in a backline that does move slow sometimes. He's also a very handy ball user so should be rewarded for effective disposals regularly.
I don't think you would want to field him without a loophole and I do have genuine concerns on his JS in a team going for a flag, I expect he starts and gets a couple of games but if other teams are isolating him and exposing him, which is a very likely tactic and a possible outcome, then he could go out very quickly.
I'd also really like to see him named with all of Broad, Grimes, Tarrant and Vlastuin and Balta up forward as that would mean that he's genuinely in the team and not just holding a spot for a Grimes/Vlastuin.
SDK I think will score fine from his price, could even make 200k. He attacks the ball in the air and goes for marks which is always a strong start and the Cats love to **** around in the defensive 50 so will get cheapies. Not going to be consistent, assuming he even plays, but I'm not remotely worried about him making cash if he's picked in the best 22, my worry with him is they go Henry, Blicavs and Kolo as the talls and play a little undersized instead of having Kolo as the 4th tall and being a bit oversized, it's an awkward balance but Henry, Blicavs and SDK are all exceptionally athletic talls so that helps cover for Kolo being a bit of a plodder for a 4th tall.
I don't think you would want to field him without a loophole and I do have genuine concerns on his JS in a team going for a flag, I expect he starts and gets a couple of games but if other teams are isolating him and exposing him, which is a very likely tactic and a possible outcome, then he could go out very quickly.
I'd also really like to see him named with all of Broad, Grimes, Tarrant and Vlastuin and Balta up forward as that would mean that he's genuinely in the team and not just holding a spot for a Grimes/Vlastuin.
SDK I think will score fine from his price, could even make 200k. He attacks the ball in the air and goes for marks which is always a strong start and the Cats love to **** around in the defensive 50 so will get cheapies. Not going to be consistent, assuming he even plays, but I'm not remotely worried about him making cash if he's picked in the best 22, my worry with him is they go Henry, Blicavs and Kolo as the talls and play a little undersized instead of having Kolo as the 4th tall and being a bit oversized, it's an awkward balance but Henry, Blicavs and SDK are all exceptionally athletic talls so that helps cover for Kolo being a bit of a plodder for a 4th tall.
Beggars can’t be choosers sometimes when it comes to rookies.
But as you say in defence rookie scoring can be a pleasant surprise.
Who was that Essendon defender a few years back who was priced about $190k, again faded by a lot including me, but who went surprisingly well? Maybe 5 years ago.
I know the price tag is off putting and we want our Touks and Steeles but as I said if that rookie cards fall a certain way you have to play them.
But as you say in defence rookie scoring can be a pleasant surprise.
Who was that Essendon defender a few years back who was priced about $190k, again faded by a lot including me, but who went surprisingly well? Maybe 5 years ago.
I know the price tag is off putting and we want our Touks and Steeles but as I said if that rookie cards fall a certain way you have to play them.
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Butts was two years older than Gibcus and Gibcus’s scores in the few NAB league games he played were poor. Not many first year key position defenders are successful picks, I can only think of Weitering and Naughton in the past 6 years and both had really good junior numbers. Even Butts may have worked but someone like Zerk-Thatcher the year prior did not, it’s not a sc friendly role.
You can fade hinge by picking one less rookie on his line, picking him and having more rookies means you are more vulnerable if he gets another shoulder injury
You can fade hinge by picking one less rookie on his line, picking him and having more rookies means you are more vulnerable if he gets another shoulder injury
Could be the play
Rookie defender - > Clark via Daicos
Move one of Rachele/Ward/Stephens onfield
Upgrade Curnow/McGovern/Xerri to a premium F via Brodie/Coniglio
Existing & additional DPP could offer up so many trading options.
Now to find figure out what happens when JHF moves forward.
JHF forward , McGovern defence , upgrade a mid price defender to a premium mid (maybe)
Daicos & McGovern both in defence
Rookie defender - > Clark via Daicos
Move one of Rachele/Ward/Stephens onfield
Upgrade Curnow/McGovern/Xerri to a premium F via Brodie/Coniglio
Existing & additional DPP could offer up so many trading options.
Now to find figure out what happens when JHF moves forward.
JHF forward , McGovern defence , upgrade a mid price defender to a premium mid (maybe)
Daicos & McGovern both in defence
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On the flip side, only having 3 rookies down back leaves you incredibly exposed in the premium selections, you're locked out of all value plays down back, you're locked into having to get the D1-2 if you miss one. I did it last year and it was extremely limiting. This combined with if you lose one of the rookies means you're a covid case from a sideways trade basically.
There's definitely pro's and cons to both strategies, I think for on field points and cash generation an extra midfield rookies might just be the play, would feel a lot more confident in finding a 75 from Ward/Rachele/Stephens than I do finding a 55 from the rookie defenders other than maybe McCartin on a consistent basis which cancels out the difference between Steele and say Lloyd and you've still got the cash to play with somewhere else as well, expanded even more if going from Hinge/Gibcus down a Hough type in the mids.
There's definitely pro's and cons to both strategies, I think for on field points and cash generation an extra midfield rookies might just be the play, would feel a lot more confident in finding a 75 from Ward/Rachele/Stephens than I do finding a 55 from the rookie defenders other than maybe McCartin on a consistent basis which cancels out the difference between Steele and say Lloyd and you've still got the cash to play with somewhere else as well, expanded even more if going from Hinge/Gibcus down a Hough type in the mids.
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Here's the latest draft of my team this year. $75k left.
Three main items that are dictating my team structure:
1) Set and forget rucks is the game this year - there's no clear midpricer/rookie value there, so the Gawndy-duo is the starting spot.
2) Mid-pricer must haves - Then, there is immense value in Neale, Cripps, Rowell and Coniglio that can't be avoided.
3) Premium Backline - With the few backline rookies available, a 4 premium backline also seems to be the best team-structure strategy.
With the above, there is only really room for 3 forward premiums and 2 midfield premiums.
I have elected to go for Dunks, Heeney and Butters in the forward line as potential top 6 for the end of the year.
I'm consdering swapping Heeney/Butters for Dustin/Treloar types - what do people think?
Three main items that are dictating my team structure:
1) Set and forget rucks is the game this year - there's no clear midpricer/rookie value there, so the Gawndy-duo is the starting spot.
2) Mid-pricer must haves - Then, there is immense value in Neale, Cripps, Rowell and Coniglio that can't be avoided.
3) Premium Backline - With the few backline rookies available, a 4 premium backline also seems to be the best team-structure strategy.
With the above, there is only really room for 3 forward premiums and 2 midfield premiums.
I have elected to go for Dunks, Heeney and Butters in the forward line as potential top 6 for the end of the year.
I'm consdering swapping Heeney/Butters for Dustin/Treloar types - what do people think?
