Strategy 2022: Round 3 Trades

Locus Levy Lunacy · 31 Mar 2022

In theory yes. What happens though when we get to rounds 7-10 and there isn't 2 viable rookies per round to execute what you'd like to do?

There is already a limited number of playing rookies, which is why we all have the same ones. Some of the other better ones will potentially debut too early to be ideal as downgrades. With covid outs always an ever-present threat (particularly in colder winter), a strong bench could be crucial - meaning we don't want to be double downgrading into weak rookies to facilitate upgrades.

To my mind, if something is there at the moment that you like, then using the third trade to grab it is fine, if it strengthens your team.

A lot of those 200-300K players like Caldwell (who you were discussing. I agree, not for Berry) could be really important, as we might be stuck with them longer than we'd like. As a 4th year player with a more developed body, he should be way less likely to fall away compared to a first year player.

I think the people in the best position to use 3, are those who can downgrade a struggling premo to a legitimate replacement keeper (Cripps, Hewett, Heeney etc.), then use those funds to strengthen 2 other positions. I'm battling to find a way to do this, as I think English is my only viable option in this category.

Hawk41 · 31 Mar 2022

At this stage just looking at the one trade, McGovern to Brodie, I was very anti Brodie especially given how many times I watched him play in the GCS vfl last year, but with Fyfe out long term time to admit I was wrong and trade him in.
Going to back in the likes of Gawn, Whitfield in for now.

Also want to try and hold my boost trades for the upgrade rounds.

stephen · 31 Mar 2022

Pieman17 said:

Yep, option 1 is a great set of trades for this team I think.

Goodie's Guns · 31 Mar 2022

Would really appreciate thoughts on my side and trade options ahead of Round 3.

34 Trades (5 Boosts)
$26,800 Cash in Bank

Have done reasonably well with the rookies, Mitch Owens my only genuine deadwood rookie at this stage (touch wood). Fingers crossed Sam De Koning can play a role, and that Brady Hough and Hugh Dixon at least find a couple of price rises.

The main concerns in terms of missed rookies are Tristan Xerri and Dylan Stephens.

Lachie Whitfield really the only premium concern.

No Patrick Cripps, Isaac Heeney and George Hewett is slightly worrying on a premium/potential premium front.

With only $26,800 cash in bank, it’s quite difficult to find avenues to Xerri and maybe Stephens.

Could go down the path of…

Whitfield —> Xerri (via McCartin to DEF)
Owens —> Stephens
$270,700

But then, if I wished to use a boost I fall short of Cripps/Heeney/Hewett (if say Hough was the trade out). Which then leaves me a premium short, or alternatively, Ward as the out could get me Hewett, but even then I’m not 100% sold on Hewett to begin with. Otherwise I could be sitting on a large amount of cash for a few weeks until a rookie is ready to turn into a premium.

Would love some thoughts if anyone has a moment to run an eye over things.

Beast_Mode · 31 Mar 2022

Socrates2 said:

Spifflicator said:

I considered the trade and came to the exact conclusion. Although I do see Caldwell averaging more than Berry in the immediate future, I cannot justify a trade. I also have doubts on Caldwell’s ceiling compared to Berry who has shown he can go 120+

For a Josh Ward type however…

Beast_Mode · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

Would really appreciate thoughts on my side and trade options ahead of Round 3.

34 Trades (5 Boosts)
$26,800 Cash in Bank

Have done reasonably well with the rookies, Mitch Owens my only genuine deadwood rookie at this stage (touch wood). Fingers crossed Sam De Koning can play a role, and that Brady Hough and Hugh Dixon at least find a couple of price rises.

The main concerns in terms of missed rookies are Tristan Xerri and Dylan Stephens.

Lachie Whitfield really the only premium concern.

No Patrick Cripps, Isaac Heeney and George Hewett is slightly worrying on a premium/potential premium front.

With only $26,800 cash in bank, it’s quite difficult to find avenues to Xerri and maybe Stephens.

Could go down the path of…

Whitfield —> Xerri (via McCartin to DEF)
Owens —> Stephens
$270,700

But then, if I wished to use a boost I fall short of Cripps/Heeney/Hewett (if say Hough was the trade out). Which then leaves me a premium short, or alternatively, Ward as the out could get me Hewett, but even then I’m not 100% sold on Hewett to begin with. Otherwise I could be sitting on a large amount of cash for a few weeks until a rookie is ready to turn into a premium.

Would love some thoughts if anyone has a moment to run an eye over things.

Can you post your full side? I agree, I would avoid sitting on $250k +

Goodie's Guns · 31 Mar 2022

Beast_Mode said:

Are the photos of my side not showing up properly? I can see them, maybe others can’t though?

Either way, see below…

Socrates2 · 31 Mar 2022

Does Durdin to Rachele seem reasonable?

GrainFedBeef · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

Good looking side. Deadwood i would incl dixon and hough.

Overinvested in backline and your whitfield trade sorts that.

Hewett not needed in that backline, true test for cartlon is if they are losing and Hewett has a longer defensive role. I will likely bring him in for whits at D3.

any thoughts on Heeney?

Socrates2 · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

Whitfield to Bowey and Ward to Cripps?

THCLT · 31 Mar 2022

Socrates2 said:

$10k short from being able to do that.

jarveg · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

Would really appreciate thoughts on my side and trade options ahead of Round 3.

34 Trades (5 Boosts)
$26,800 Cash in Bank

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Have done reasonably well with the rookies, Mitch Owens my only genuine deadwood rookie at this stage (touch wood). Fingers crossed Sam De Koning can play a role, and that Brady Hough and Hugh Dixon at least find a couple of price rises.

The main concerns in terms of missed rookies are Tristan Xerri and Dylan Stephens.

Lachie Whitfield really the only premium concern.

No Patrick Cripps, Isaac Heeney and George Hewett is slightly worrying on a premium/potential premium front.

With only $26,800 cash in bank, it’s quite difficult to find avenues to Xerri and maybe Stephens.

Could go down the path of…

Whitfield —> Xerri (via McCartin to DEF)
Owens —> Stephens
$270,700

But then, if I wished to use a boost I fall short of Cripps/Heeney/Hewett (if say Hough was the trade out). Which then leaves me a premium short, or alternatively, Ward as the out could get me Hewett, but even then I’m not 100% sold on Hewett to begin with. Otherwise I could be sitting on a large amount of cash for a few weeks until a rookie is ready to turn into a premium.

Would love some thoughts if anyone has a moment to run an eye over things.

Is sitting on a large amount of cash the worst thing? Your rucks are only a Ratten fever dream away from coping a donut. Most teams have English/Jackson in the forwards to swing over if needed. Maybe you hold your cash in lieu of making that trade to give you an out if it goes pear shaped? Otherwise it's likely two trades to avoid a donut........

Beast_Mode · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

Yep can see the team fine!

Given the strength of your backline already, I would feel comfortable trading Whitfield > player x via. McCartin.

Annoyingly you are 3k short from my “ideal”:

Whitfield > Xerri
Ward > Cripps / Heeney
Owens > Stephens

Aside from your original plans, I’d also consider:

Whitfield > Heeney
Owens > Stephens

Means forgoing Xerri and Cripps but removes deadwood in Owens

freowho · 31 Mar 2022

Goodie's Guns said:

I think this an interesting discussion. An undervalue keeper vs a cash cow. How much undervalued is the keeper vs how much cash will the cow make and how many more opportunities will we get during the year. Usually the best UVK's show up during the year with an injury or tagged game while the best CC's are often at the start of the year. Plus the UVK is one trade vs 2 for the cash cow.
If the equation is about equal then how many points are you adding? If Cripps is as undervalued as the money that Xerri makes then you would have to value the extra 30 or 40 points each week. I would also think there will be another Xerri ($150k cash cow) but probably not another Cripps. ($450 mid keeper)
Heeney and Hewett are more borderline for me. Given we had so many premium defenders to choose from I would think there will be another Hewett (underpriced defender). Given the lack of forward premiums Heeney looks like a rare beast.
I think all three are good picks.
I'm not as bullish on Xerri and think he just had his best game. Job share rucks as keepers on any line is rare. I'd be happy if he was in my team, or would like to trade him in, but I don't think he is a "must have".

Harvs · 31 Mar 2022

Hi All,

Haven't had the best start to the year and want to try and make a bit of ground this week. Feel I have a couple of options:

1) Whitfield - Hewett
Berry - Cripps

2) Baldwin - Xerri
Whitfield - Hewett

3) Gawn - Jackson
Baldwin - Xerri
Ward - Cripps

I think 3 is the riskiest but I like it as it fixes my main issue of no Xerri and no Cripps. Baldwin to Xerri seems a no brainer in any scenario as I have the cash. Means I miss Hewett but gives Whitfield one more chance.
Appreciate any thoughts thanks all! Sorry about the image quality!

Seymour Skinner · 31 Mar 2022

Made 2 trades last week as I had 3 outs in my fwd line immediately.

Dusty > Brodie
Baldwin > Durdin
341k itb

Thought Durdin looked good R1, pushed very far up the field and got involved, thought he was going to be a must have but he was rubbish R2.
After Dusty was withdrawn from the side I figured he'd be out indefinitely and not just a 1 weeker so go on the front foot, think Brodie is crap but his role will be good for the next 4-6 at least, also gave me enough $$ to make some needed corrections this week.

Owens > Hewett
Hough > Stephens
9k itb

Started Worner at D8 so I am able to swing Hewett back and get Gibcus/SDK off the field, Worner mid also allows me to loop Stephens and Ward at M8.

Get 2 dead rookies out, for 1 cow and hopefully 1 keeper.

Not happy that I've used 4 trades to get 3 players that were in my team for the majority of the preseason, but can't change that now.

Have Darcy at R1, but sounds like he'll get up, didn't want to trade him anyways as all the rucks suck. If he doesn't get up I'll just cop Hayes' score.
Haven't considered shifting Whitfield either, confident that he will turn it around, and don't want to be using my boosts already.

Have to fade Heeney and Cripps, they are scoring well, but I still don't think they will manage 20+ games for the season, two good scores doesn't mean the durability doubts go out the window.

dlanod · 31 Mar 2022

bluesbrothers said:

You can pretty much guarantee clubs don't rest their captains unless it's a dead rubber.

Amazing Bombers · 31 Mar 2022

Harvs said:

I think all 3 options have their merits. As you said though 3 could work well, I'm just wary of trading Gawn yet, plenty of quality players have had a poor 2 rounds and bounced back On the flipside it gets rid of a non playing rookie . I'd be leaning towards the 2nd one, gets rid of a non playing rookie for a solid prospect scoring and cash wise and Hewett seems like a really good pick to trade in at the moment.

BarginHunter · 31 Mar 2022

Ok just thought id have one crazy bit of fun with one trade option and so far i kinda like it.
Whitfield+Berry+Owens>Witts(via english and Cogs dpp)+Stephens+Young

Means i miss out on Bowey and Cripps and basically any other cash cowes apart from Witts and Stephens but it makes my ruck and def set up feel more stable

Brookesy · 31 Mar 2022

Brookesy said:

Strategy 2022: Round 3 Trades

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