Discussion 2023 Round 7: Teams & In Game Discussion

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VFL, SANFL and WAFL MATCHES

Smithy's VFL fixture, round six
Saturday, April 29

Footscray v Carlton, ETU Stadium, 11.05am AEST
Southport v Northern Bullants, Fankhauser Reserve, 12.05pm AEST

Sunday, April 30
Richmond v Gold Coast, Swinburne Centre, 11.05am AEST
Coburg Lions v Geelong, Piranha Park, 12pm AEST
Port Melbourne v GWS Giants, ETU Stadium, 1.05pm AEST
Box Hill Hawks v Casey Demons, Wonthaggi Recreation Reserve, 2.05pm AEST

SANFL fixture, round four
Saturday, April 29

Sturt v Central District, Wigan Oval, 2.30pm ACST

Sunday, April 30
South Adelaide v Adelaide, Adelaide Oval, 12.30pm ACST
North Adelaide v Woodville-West Torrens, Prospect Oval, 1.10pm ACST
Glenelg v Norwood, Stratarama Stadium, 2.10pm ACST
West Adelaide v Port Adelaide, Loxton Oval, 2.10pm ACST

WAFL fixture, round one
Saturday, April 29

East Fremantle v Perth, WACA, 11.40am AWST
East Perth v Peel Thunder, Leederville Oval, 1.40pm AWST
West Perth v Subiaco, Pentanet Stadium, 2.10pm AWST
South Fremantle v Swan Districts, Fremantle Community Bank Oval, 2.10pm AWST

Sunday, April 30
Claremont v West Coast, Revo Fitness Stadium, 12.40pm AWST

 
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FRIDAY TEAMS
(Announced Thursday 6:20pm AEST)


ST KILDA v PORT ADELAIDE

Friday April 28, 7:50pm at Marvel Stadium

Saints
B: J.Battle, D.Howard, C.Wilkie
HB: L.Stocker, J.Sinclair, N.Wanganeen-Milera
C: M.Wood, S.Ross, R.Byrnes
HF: M.Phillipou, B.Hill, J.Higgins
F: M.Owens, Z.Cordy, T.Membrey
FOLL: R.Marshall, B.Crouch, J.Steele - C
I/C: J.Gresham, H.Clark, D.Butler, B.Paton

EMG: M.Windhager, J.Bytel, C.Sharman, T.Campbell

IN: None
OUT: M.Windhager (sub)

Power
B: A.Aliir, T.McKenzie, D.Williams
HB: M.Bergman, J.Burgoyne, D.Houston
C: T.Boak, J.Horne-Francis, X.Duursma
HF: J.McEntee, D.Byrne-Jones, S.Powell-Pepper
F: J.Finlayson, B.Teakle, O.Lord
FOLL: C.Dixon, W.Drew, C.Rozee
I/C: R.Burton, O.Wines - C, Z.Butters, J.Rioli

EMG: F.Evans, R.Bonner, J.Mead, L.Jones

IN: J.Burgoyne, C.Dixon
OUT: T.Jonas (suspended), K.Farrell, T.Marshall (injured)
Subs & Late Changes
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SATURDAY TEAMS
(Announced Thursday 6:20pm AEST)


BRISBANE LIONS v FREMANTLE

Saturday April 29, 1:45pm at The Gabba

Lions
B: B.Starcevich, J.Payne, K.Coleman
HB: C.McKenna, H.Andrews, D.Rich
C: D.Wilmot, Z.Bailey, H.McCluggage
HF: C.Cameron, J.Gunston, W.Ashcroft
F: D.Zorko, J.Daniher, E.Hipwood
FOLL: O.McInerney, J.Dunkley, L.Neale - C
I/C: J.Berry, L.McCarthy, C.Rayner, R.Lester

EMG: N.Cockatoo, T.Fullarton, D.Joyce, N.Answerth

IN: R.Lester
OUT: D.Joyce (omitted), J.Lyons (sub)

Dockers
B: B.Cox, A.Pearce - C, H.Young
HB: M.Johnson, L.Ryan, J.Clark
C: J.Aish, C.Serong, E.Hughes
HF: M.Walters, L.Jackson, B.Banfield
F: S.Switkowski, J.Amiss, N.O’Driscoll
FOLL: S.Darcy, A.Brayshaw, J.O’Meara
I/C: S.Sturt, W.Brodie, B.Walker, L.Schultz

EMG: J.Corbett, N.Erasmus, C.Wagner, N.Wilson

IN: S.Switkowski, N.O’Driscoll
OUT: M.Frederick (injured), C.Wagner (omitted), J.Corbett (sub)
Subs & Late Changes
View: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1652142348418301953?s=20



SYDNEY SWANS v GWS GIANTS

Saturday April 29, 2:10pm at SCG

Swans
B: B.Campbell, T.McCartin, H.Cunningham
HB: O.Florent, J.Lloyd, N.Blakey
C: L.Parker - C, C.Mills, R.Clarke
HF: E.Gulden, W.Hayward, A.Francis
F: I.Heeney, L.Franklin, T.Papley
FOLL: P.Ladhams, J.Rowbottom, Ch.Warner
I/C: D.Stephens, A.Sheldrick, L.McDonald, H.McLean

EMG: W.Gould, Co.Warner, J.McInerney, L.McAndrew

IN: T.McCartin, L.Franklin, A.Sheldrick
OUT: J.McInerney (omitted), R.Fox, M.Roberts (both injured), W.Gould (sub)

Giants
B: C.Idun, N.Haynes, I.Cumming
HB: L.Whitfield, J.Buckley, L.Ash
C: F.Callaghan, J.Kelly, H.Perryman
HF: B.Daniels, H.Himmelberg, J.Peatling
F: T.Greene - C, J.Hogan, T.Bedford
FOLL: M.Flynn, T.Green, S.Coniglio
I/C: R.Angwin, A.Cadman, C.Brown, X.O’Halloran

EMG: J.Fahey, J.Riccardi, H.Rowston, C.Fleeton

IN: T.Bedford, T.Green, C.Brown
OUT: H.Rowston (omitted), C.Ward (suspended), S.Taylor, A.Kennedy (injured)
Subs & Late Changes
View: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1652149255933677569?s=20


WESTERN BULLDOGS v HAWTHORN

Saturday April 29, 4:35pm at Marvel Stadium

Bulldogs
B: T.Duryea, L.Jones, T.O’Brien
HB: B.Dale, A.Keath, E.Richards
C: O.Baker, M.Bontempelli - C, B.Williams
HF: B.Smith, J.Ugle-Hagan, C.Weightman
F: A.Jones, A.Naughton, R.Lobb
FOLL: T.English, J.Macrae, A.Treloar
I/C: J.Johannisen, C.Daniel, A.Scott, L.McNeil

EMG: B.Khamis, R.West, T.McLean, S.Darcy

IN: B.Smith
OUT: T.McLean (omitted), T.Liberatore (injured)

Hawks
B: J.Impey, S.Frost, J.Sicily - C
HB: C.Jiath, B.Hardwick, J.Weddle
C: K.Amon, J.Ward, C.Nash
HF: H.Morrison, M.Ramsden, L.Breust
F: C.Wingard, M.Lewis, D.Moore
FOLL: N.Reeves, J.Newcombe, J.Worpel
I/C: S.Mitchell, T.Brockman, W.Day, F.Greene

EMG: C.Macdonald, J.Scrimshaw, C.Mackenzie, D.Grainger-Barras

IN: J.Weddle, J.Ward, M.Ramsden, M.Lewis, W.Day
OUT: D.Grainger-Barras, C.Mackenzie, N.Long, C.Macdonald (all omitted), M.Lynch (injured), J.Scrimshaw (sub)
Subs & Late Changes
Bulldogs: West, Darcy & Khamis played VFL. McLean DNP.


MELBOURNE v NORTH MELBOURNE

Saturday April 29, 7:25pm at MCG

Demons
B: J.Bowey, S.May, J.Lever
HB: A.Brayshaw, B.Fritsch, T.Rivers
C: E.Langdon, C.Oliver, T.Sparrow
HF: J.Viney, J.Schache, M.Hibberd
F: J.Jordon, J.van Rooyen, J.McVee
FOLL: M.Gawn - C, C.Petracca, K.Chandler
I/C: B.Grundy, L.Hunter, A.Neal-Bullen, K.Pickett

EMG: J.Harmes, B.Laurie, T.McDonald, D.Turner

IN: J.Schache
OUT: H.Petty (injured), B.Laurie (sub)

Kangaroos
B: G.Logue, B.McKay, J.Ziebell
HB: L.McDonald, A.Hall, H.Sheezel
C: C.Taylor, T.Powell, L.Shiels
HF: P.Curtis, C.Comben, J.Stephenson
F: J.Simpkin - C, N.Larkey, C.Coleman-Jones
FOLL: T.Goldstein, L.Davies-Uniacke, C.Zurhaar
I/C: A.Corr, B.Cunnington, B.Scott, K.Turner

EMG: D.Tucker, D.Howe, W.Phillips, H.Greenwood

IN: J.Simpkin, C.Coleman-Jones
OUT: D.Tucker, W.Phillips, D.Howe (all omitted)
Subs & Late Changes

WEST COAST EAGLES v CARLTON

Saturday April 29, 7:30pm at Optus Stadium

Eagles
B: S.Hurn, T.Barrass - C, A.Witherden
HB: J.Jones, J.Rotham, L.Duggan
C: L.Edwards, T.Kelly, J.Hunt
HF: G.Clark, J.Darling, J.Waterman
F: J.Culley, O.Allen, S.Petrevski-Seton
FOLL: B.Williams, R.Ginbey, A.Gaff
I/C: J.Petruccelle, X.O’Neill, L.Foley, C.West

EMG: Z.Trew, H.Barnett, R.Bazzo, C.Jamieson

IN: S.Hurn, X.O’Neill
OUT: L.Shuey (injured), Z.Trew (omitted), R.Bazzo (sub)

Blues
B: N.Newman, J.Weitering, B.Kemp
HB: S.Docherty, M.McGovern, A.Saad
C: S.Walsh, P.Cripps - C, O.Hollands
HF: E.Curnow, C.Curnow, J.Silvagni
F: C.Durdin, H.McKay, Z.Fisher
FOLL: M.Pittonet, A.Cerra, G.Hewett
I/C: Le.Young, A.Cincotta, B.Acres, J.Honey

EMG: T.De Koning, L.Fogarty, L.Cowan, M.Kennedy

IN: B.Kemp, S.Docherty, A.Saad
OUT: M.Kennedy (omitted), J.Motlop (suspended), L.Cowan (managed), L’O’Brien (sub)
Subs & Late Changes
Blues: De Koning played VFL. Fogarty & Cowan DNP. Kennedy announced as Sub by coach.
 
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SUNDAY TEAMS
(Announced Thursday 6:20pm AEST; Finalised Friday 5:00pm AEST)


ESSENDON v GEELONG

Sunday April 30, 1:10pm at MCG

Bombers
B: J.Kelly, B.Zerk-Thatcher, J.Ridley
HB: A.McGrath, M.Redman, K.Langford
C: S.Durham, D.Parish, N.Martin
HF: D.Shiel, S.Weideman, J.Caldwell
F: A.Perkins, J.Stringer, B.Hobbs
FOLL: S.Draper, Z.Merrett - C, W.Setterfield
I/C: N.Hind, A.Phillips, M.D’Ambrosio, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti

IN: Z.Merrett, N.Hind, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti
OUT: J.Laverde (injured), D.Heppell (managed), J.Menzie (managed), A.Davey Jnr (omitted), W.Snelling (omitted)

Cats
B: E.Ratugolea, S.De Koning, T.Stewart
HB: J.Kolodjashnij, M.O’Connor, Z.Guthrie
C: I.Smith, T.Atkins, Z.Tuohy
HF: S.Simpson, T.Hawkins, G.Rohan
F: G.Miers, J.Cameron, B.Close
FOLL: M.Blicavs, M.Holmes, P.Dangerfield - C
I/C: J.Bowes, M.Duncan, O.Henry, J.Bews

IN: J.Bews
OUT: C.Guthrie (injured), M.Knevitt (sub)
Subs & Late Changes
Cats: Ceglar played VFL. Dempsey, Knevitt & Bruhn held back.
View: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1652496577515393026?s=20



RICHMOND v GOLD COAST SUNS

Sunday April 30, 3:20pm at Marvel Stadium

Tigers
B: T.Young, D.Grimes - C, N.Balta
HB: D.Rioli, N.Broad, J.Short
C: K.McIntosh, T.Taranto, T.Sonsie
HF: M.Pickett, D.Martin, L.Baker
F: S.Ryan, N.Cumberland, J.Riewoldt
FOLL: I.Soldo, J.Hopper, S.Bolton
I/C: N.Vlastuin, B.Miller, J.Ross, T.Sonsie

IN: I.Soldo, N.Broad, J.Ross, T.Cotchin
OUT: D.Prestia (managed), M.Rioli (injured), R.Mansell (omitted), J.Clarke (omitted), H.Ralphsmith (omitted)

Suns
B: S.Lemmens, S.Collins, D.Macpherson
HB: B.Long, C.Ballard, W.Powell
C: L.Weller, B.Humphrey, D.Swallow
HF: B.Ainsworth, M.Chol, B.Ellis
F: N.Holman, B.King, J.Lukosius
FOLL: J.Witts - C, M.Rowell, N.Anderson
I/C: R.Atkins, A.Davies, B.Fiorini, A.Sexton

IN: R.Atkins, A.Davies, A.Sexton
OUT: M.Andrew (omitted), M.Rosas (omitted), T.Miller (injury), L.Casboult (managed)
Subs & Late Changes
Tigers: Clark to be Sub. Mansell, Bauer & Ralphsmith played VFL
Suns: Rosas to be Sub. Jeffery, Andrew & Oea played VFL



ADELAIDE CROWS v COLLINGWOOD

Sunday April 30, 4:40pm at Adelaide Oval

Crows
B: T.Doedee, N.Murray, M.Michalanney
HB: B.Smith, J.Butts, M.Hinge
C: J.Soligo, J.Dawson - C, L.Sholl
HF: I.Rankine, C.Jones, L.Pedlar
F: T.Walker, D.Fogarty, L.Murphy
FOLL: R.O’Brien, R.Laird, B.Keays
I/C: R.Sloane, R.Thilthorpe, W.Milera, J.Rachele

IN: -
OUT: N.McHenry (sub)

Magpies
B: I.Quaynor, D.Moore - C, B.Maynard
HB: W.Hoskin-Elliott, N.Murphy, J.Crisp
C: J.Noble, J.De Goey, J.Daicos
HF: B.Hill, B.Mihocek, J.Elliott
F: B.McCreery, A.Johnson, N.Kreuger
FOLL: B.Frampton, T.Adams, N.Daicos
I/C: T.Mitchell, S.Sidebottom, J.Ginnivan, O.Markov

IN: N.Murphy, T.Adams
OUT: S.Pendlebury (injured), T.Ruscoe (omitted), W.Kelly (sub)
Subs & Late Changes
Crows: Cook & Himmelberg played SANFL. Crouch & Schoenberg held back.
View: https://twitter.com/AFL/status/1652549409425723392?s=20
 
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To complement the Daicos v Judd discussion - Nick really is off the charts. Judd was kicking more goals consistently throughout his first 2 years (33 after 31 games, v Nicks 12), and to be fair he didn't start to hit top gear until year 3.

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Great work mate. I'd love to know what % Daicos' kick in's affect his totals. I know he would still be a lot higher in terms of disposals, but that must make some difference.

It would also be interesting to see the Contested Possession vs Uncontested Possession ratio between the two.

Fantastic work though ;)
 

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Great work mate. I'd love to know what % Daicos' kick in's affect his totals. I know he would still be a lot higher in terms of disposals, but that must make some difference.

It would also be interesting to see the Contested Possession vs Uncontested Possession ratio between the two.

Fantastic work though ;)
NDaicos has had a total of 75 'extra' disposals via kick-ins (2022 & 2023 YTD totals below).
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NDaicos has had a CPs rate of 24% in his 31 games career to date, Judd was running at 55% CPs rate during his first 31 games.
I don't think that using CPs rate is a good comparison as they play very different roles, NDaicos is primarily a rebounder with part time outside Mid whilst Judd was a pure inside Mid.
 
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NDaicos has had a total of 75 'extra' disposals via kick-ins (2022 & 2023 YTD totals below).
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NDaicos has had a CPs rate of 24% in his 31 games career to date, Judd was running at 55% CPs rate during his first 31 games.
I don't think that using CPs rate is a good comparison as they play very different roles, NDaicos is primarily a rebounder with part time outside Mid whilst Judd was a pure inside Mid.
TBH, that was my point. That's why I asked re the CP's, as I don't know if you can really compare Judd vs Naicos, as they are different players. I understand the measuring of their potential (big burden on Naicos' shoulder right now to be compared to Judd), but they are can't be compared with disposals IMO
 
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