2015: Rookies

Which of the forward rookies look most likely to get a gig in your starting team?

  • Salem

    Votes: 73 59.8%
  • Clark

    Votes: 108 88.5%
  • Karnezis

    Votes: 23 18.9%
  • Hogan

    Votes: 67 54.9%
  • Lonie

    Votes: 36 29.5%
  • Krakouer

    Votes: 40 32.8%
  • Lambert

    Votes: 76 62.3%
  • Lamb

    Votes: 34 27.9%
  • Other (please name)

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • Total voters
    122

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I'm far from the expert on how the draft works so feel free to jump in and throw in some names and possible draft orders.

From memory, JOM and Martin were drafted under special circumstances as well so if anyone knows who is this year's equivalents are, let us know.

2014 key trade, draft and free agency dates

Friday August 1, by 2pm - Draft-eligible Academy player nominations lodged

Friday October 3 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Friday October 3, by 2pm - NAB AFL father/son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL

Monday October 6, 10am - Father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Monday October 13, at 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free Agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Thursday October 16 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Friday October 17, at 2pm - NAB AFL Trade Period closes

Friday October 31, by 2pm - List lodgement (1); Rookie promotion to primary list; Retained second and third-year rookies; Scholarship players; Alternate talent player nominations, Total player payment (TPP) estimates.

Saturday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Wednesday November 12 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes; Out of contract listed AFL primary list players draft nomination form and player request for removal from list form Lodged with AFL; New or expired (after three years) draft nomination form lodgement.

Thursday November 13, by 2pm - List lodgement (2).

Friday November 14 - AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Wednesday November 19 - Delisted primary list draft nomination form lodgement; Non–retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement; Players not registered or played for three years rookie nomination. NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Thursday November 27 - NAB AFL Draft selection meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday November 28 - NAB AFL delisted free agency Period (3) begins

Monday December 1 - AFL delisted player free agency period (3) ends. AFL club list lodgement (3) and TPP estimates. International players inclusion on rookie list form; Scholarship players rookie list form lodged; Father/son and Academy pre-selected rookie nominations.

Wednesday December 3 - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting (11am); Notification of pre-selected rookies nominated on Monday November 25 if not selected in the pre-season draft (11.05am); NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting (11.10am)

Monday December 5 – Final club list lodgement

Friday December 12, by 2pm - International players inclusion on rookie list
 
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Likely Draft Order (no idea how this works :p)
1 - Essendon
2 - Essendon
3 - Essendon
5 - Essendon
6 - Essendon
7 - Essendon
8 - Essendon
9 - Essendon
10 - Essendon
11 - Essendon
40 - Essendon
 
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Phantom draft form guide
Callum Twomey July 4, 2014 7:36 AM

THE NAB AFL Under-18 Championships are over after a six-match home-and-away series in division one, and three rounds in division two.

This year's draft class is widely viewed as one of the most even in years. There are up to six or seven players who could be the No.1 pick, and after that there's a big batch vying for first-round selection.

AFL.com.au's draft reporter Callum Twomey has ranked his top 20 players in this year's first Phantom Form Guide. This is not a mock draft and does not take into consideration where the players will get picked – it is purely a list of the best prospects in Callum’s eyes.

It will be updated every month in the lead up to the NAB AFL Draft.


1 - Patrick McCartin (tall fwd) 19/4/96 | 192cm | 92kg
McCartin is the most natural forward of this year's group. He has some old-fashioned traits: he runs straight out of the goalsquare, crashes into packs, takes marks and kicks goals. Right in the frame to be the No.1 pick, McCartin has a burly streak where he throws himself at the ball and anyone in the way. Big, strong and physical, McCartin is a terrific overhead mark and judge of the ball in the air.

2 - Christian Petracca (mid/half fwd) 4/1/96 | 185cm | 92kg
Everything Petracca does is at high intensity. Around the ball he pushes opponents out of the way until it's in his hands, and then takes a few big steps to create separation. After making his name last year as a powerful medium forward, Petracca took another step in the championships by playing through the midfield and winning the Larke Medal as the best player of division one. In five games he averaged 24 disposals and showed there's nobody quite as explosive as him.

3 - Peter Wright (tall fwd/ruck) 8/9/96 | 203cm | 102kg
Wright hit his straps against South Australia in round four of the championships, dominating in the ruck and around the ground. Recruiters wonder whether he is a ruckman or a forward, but he looks more settled in the centre and roaming around the ground. Wright is an excellent, straight, long kick and is a contender for the No.1 position.

4 - Isaac Heeney (mid) 5/5/96 | 186cm | 82kg
Explosive, hard, skilled. Heeney can do it all through the midfield and does it consistently. The Swans will have to pay top price for the academy player given his credentials. He averaged 24 disposals over three games through the carnival for NSW/ACT and won the Harrison Medal for the best player in division two. To go with his ferocity at the contests, Heeney offers some spark: he's quick, can jump, and takes the ball at top speed.

5 - Darcy Moore (tall fwd/def) 25/1/96 | 199cm | 93kg
When Moore is up and going it is hard to find a key position player who moves like he can. Agile, quick and athletic, Moore shifted around through the carnival, switching from defence to attack and back again. His best game came against Western Australia in round five with four goals, but he looks just as comfortable in defence. Some think the Collingwood father-son recruit would be in the first three or four picks if not already tied to the Pies.

6 - Angus Brayshaw (mid) 9/1/96 | 187cm | 86kg
A strong and hard-working midfielder who wins his own ball and just keeps on doing it. Brayshaw collects plenty of possessions around contests but has developed some breakaway speed, giving himself enough space and time to deliver on both feet. Brayshaw started his championships with 32 disposals against Vic Country and is right up there with the best midfielders available.

7 - Sam Durdin (tall fwd/def) 6/6/96 | 196cm | 87kg
Durdin was used in the ruck at times for South Australia, but looked most at home at centre-half back, where his running and contested marking came to the fore on occasions. He missed three months of the year with a broken thumb and hasn't really hit his straps yet, as seen in his quiet game to close the carnival.

8 - Tom Lamb (tall fwd/mid) 19/10/96 | 193cm | 84kg
An intriguing player given he can do so much that others can't, but doesn't do it consistently. Was playing his best footy earlier in the year as a tall midfielder and wingman, but was used mainly in attack for Vic Country through the championships and didn't hit top form. When up and going, Lamb can turn a game his side's way in a flash and is among the most exciting prospects.

9 - Jarrod Pickett (mid/half fwd) 18/8/96 | 178cm | 76kg
Right up there as the most thrilling player when he's firing. Takes the game on, has brilliant speed and loves to run with the ball tucked under his arm. Pickett has his quiet games but also produces ones that amaze, like his three-goal performance against South Australia. Can leap, take a big mark, land on his feet and then scoot off. When he goes, you just sit back and enjoy.

10 - Jordan De Goey (mid/half back) 15/3/96 | 187cm | 82kg
De Goey creates plenty of play through the midfield and across half-back with his vision and sure skills. He's competitive and hard but matches that with some class. Tall enough to play a range of positions and talented enough to impact games, there's substance and style to De Goey, and he has some big fans among recruiters.

11 - Corey Ellis (mid) 9/10/96 | 185cm | 76kg
Ellis might not always stand out, but he does everything well. He doesn't waste touches, he can play anywhere from the midfield to half-back, he wins his own ball and is just as handy on the outside with his left-foot disposal. Ellis thinks quick, reads the play, and can see what's going to happen before it unfolds.

12 - Jake Lever (tall def) 5/3/96 | 191cm | 82kg
In an even draft Lever's position is perhaps most interesting. Out all of this year with a knee reconstruction, he's this high because of his deeds last season and his approach to his rehabilitation. Seven months since the operation, his recovery is going well, stepping up his running in recent weeks. Lever is an aggressive, tough and commanding key defender.

13 - Clem Smith (small def/mid) 3/2/96 | 177cm | 67kg
Smith didn't have a standout carnival like last year, when he won All Australian honours as a bottom-aged player, but by now most know how he plays. A crash and bash small, rebounding defender, Smith revels in the physical parts of the game. That was on show against Vic Country in the final game, when he moved forward to kick the winning goal for Western Australia. Smith gave away 19 free kicks during the carnival, but plays on the edge.

14 - Lachie Weller (mid) 23/2/96 | 181cm | 71kg
Has the skills and temperament to play well through the midfield, and also push forward to hit the scoreboard. Weller can cut through traffic with deceptive speed, and deliver the ball lace-out to teammates. A standout for Queensland during its three-game championships, Weller has the step to get out of trouble and into space, and the smarts to help others do the same.

15 - Hugh Goddard (tall fwd/def) 24/8/96 | 195cm | 92kg
A versatile tall, Goddard struggled to reach his best for Vic Country through the championships. He couldn't find space on the lead as a forward at first, and didn't fit right in when moved to defence. But he finished on a better note, playing well as a backman against WA. When on song, Goddard is comfortable flying for marks, competing hard and fighting for possession.

16 - Paul Ahern (half fwd/mid) 1/8/96 | 181cm | 77kg
Ahern lit up a couple of games for Vic Metro against Western Australia with his pace and skills. In two encounters against WA he gathered a combined 45 disposals and kicked five goals. Ahern, of Indigenous background, has the pace to cut through congestion, the touch to deftly set up others and the composure to take it on himself.

17 - Caleb Marchbank (tall fwd/def) 7/12/96 | 193cm| 85kg
Has had injuries in the past but can run at the ball, lead and mark and do it at both ends of the ground. Looked more natural early in the championships as a versatile defender, but showed he was comfortable enough with a move forward later on. Is competitive, mobile and reads the ball well in the air.

18 - Jayden Laverde (half back/mid) 12/4/96 | 189cm | 82kg
Creative and classy, Laverde has the size and skills to play almost any position. Mainly used across half-back and through the midfield, Laverde tries things with the ball. It usually pays off. The 18-year-old likes to make the play and finished his carnival with an impressive three-goal outing.

19 - Connor Blakely (mid) 2/3/96 | 186cm | 81kg
Blakely is a tall midfielder who barges through whatever's in front of him to gather possessions. Well-built and able to push others aside, Blakely averaged 21 disposals and seven clearances a game for WA. Has played senior level WAFL and performed well, and finds the ball with a minimum of fuss.

20 - Ed Vickers-Willis (tall def) 28/3/96 | 190cm | 82kg
Quietly goes about his business as a medium/tall backman. Vickers-Willis doesn't possess heaps of flair but gets the job done in defence and worries about that first. Opponents can find it hard to break away from him and he sticks to his task.
 
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2014 Under-18 All Australian team

B: Harrison Wigg (South Australia), Ed Vickers-Willis (VicMetro), Josh McGuinness (Tasmania)

HB: Darcy Tucker (VicCountry), Caleb Marchbank (VicCountry), Angus Brayshaw (VicMetro)

C: Paul Ahern (VicMetro), Christian Petracca (VicMetro), Billy Stretch (South Australia)

HF: Callum Mills (NSW/ACT), Darcy Moore (VicMetro), Rhys Mathieson (Vic Country)

FF: Jayden Laverde (VicMetro), Patrick McCartin (VicCountry), Caleb Daniel (South Australia)

Foll: Peter Wright (VicMetro), Isaac Heeney (NSW/ACT), Jake Johansen (South Australia)

Int: Jack Steele (NSW/ACT), Darcy Parish (VicCountry), Ben Keays (Queensland), Connor Blakely (Western Australia)


EASTERN Ranges star Christian Petracca leads a strong Victorian contingent in the U18 All-Australian team named today.

The big-bodied midfield utility is one of 12 Victorians — including seven from U18 Championships runners-up Vic Metro to make the 22-man squad.

Petracca won the Larke Medal, awarded to the best division one player in the championships.

He collected a team-high 17 disposals - 10 contested - Metro’s loss to South Australia.
The squad includes five bottom-age players not eligible for this year’s draft.

Collingwood father-son prospect Darcy Moore was clear selection at centre-half forward after his standout championships.

Vic Country spearhead Patrick McCartin, rated a potential No. 1 pick, was named at full-forward despite missing games during the championships with a quad strain.

Peter Wright, a versatile big man in the Joe Daniher mould, was named in the ruck, while Angus Brayshaw slots in on a back flank.

Pint-sized South Australian forward Caleb Daniel was the bolter of the side after missing the early rounds of the carnival, he collected 48 disposals and kicked six goals in the final two rounds to get a guernsey.

Highly-rated utility Hugh Goddard, Brendon’s second cousin, was a notable omission after a disappointing championships.

South Australia produced four All-Australians, while division two New South Wales/ACT turned out three including Sydney Swans-bound Isaac Henney.

NSW/ACT coach Jason Saddington was rewarded for his side’s strong carnival with nomination as the All-Australian coach.

Players will now return to their club sides ahead of October’s draft combine and the national draft in November.
 
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Likely Draft Order (no idea how this works :p)
1 - Essendon
2 - Essendon
3 - Essendon
5 - Essendon
6 - Essendon
7 - Essendon
8 - Essendon
9 - Essendon
10 - Essendon
11 - Essendon
40 - Essendon
If the ladder were to stay the same the draft order for the first round would be as follows:

1. St Kilda
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Melbourne
4. Greater Western Sydney
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Carlton
7. Richmond
8. West Coast Eagles
9. Adelaide Crows
10. Gold Coast Suns
11. Collingwood
12. North Melbourne
13. Port Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn
16. Geelong Cats
17. Gold Coast Suns
18. Sydney Swans
19. Essendon
20. Greater Western Sydney
 
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From memory, JOM and Martin were drafted under special circumstances as well so if anyone knows who is this year's equivalents are, let us know.
The mini-draft isn't happening this year. That was purely as part of GWS entry concessions, enabling them to trade top-level young talent for more experienced players. But instead they just got a whole heap of early draft picks haha.
 
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One to keep an eye on: Christian Petracca

In the TAC Cup the other week he had 32 disposals (17 contested), 10 marks and 5 goals for 192 supercoach points. Already has a mature body (92kgs) and should be one of the better young players next year. Only problem is he'll be one of the first picked meaning he'll be around the 200k mark. But with any luck he'll be a MID/FWD which would almost make him a lock if he looks a part of a best 22 early on.
 

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The mini-draft isn't happening this year. That was purely as part of GWS entry concessions, enabling them to trade top-level young talent for more experienced players. But instead they just got a whole heap of early draft picks haha.
And gave GC a future brownlow medalist! :p
 
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What I have discovered is that the most important thing in supercoach is having rookies that play and are not the sub.

That will be my key focus when picking rookies.
 
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If anyone is looking for a great phantom draft: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2014-phantom-draft.1060197/

Knightmare over at Big Footy really knows his stuff and regularly updates the picks and bios. Wonderful resource.

Note: Jay or any other moderator, I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links to other footy-based forums or not, so if it's against the rules feel free to delete this.
 
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And gave GC a future brownlow medalist! :p
The funny thing is, GWS actually arranged a three-way trade in which O'Meara ended back up at GWS but the AFL didn't allow it as it went against the whole idea of the mini-draft concessions!
 
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If the ladder were to stay the same the draft order for the first round would be as follows:

1. St Kilda
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Melbourne
4. Greater Western Sydney
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Carlton
7. Richmond
8. West Coast Eagles
9. Adelaide Crows
10. Gold Coast Suns
11. Collingwood
12. North Melbourne
13. Port Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn
16. Geelong Cats
17. Gold Coast Suns
18. Sydney Swans
19. Essendon
20. Greater Western Sydney
Are Essendon back in this years first round of the draft??
Last year they were banned but I'm not quite sure if they are back in this year??
It diddnt really matter so far in the short term because they got Zac Merrett early second round but down the track maybe missing out on a first round draft pick might cause some problems.
 
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Are Essendon back in this years first round of the draft??
Last year they were banned but I'm not quite sure if they are back in this year??
It diddnt really matter so far in the short term because they got Zac Merrett early second round but down the track maybe missing out on a first round draft pick might cause some problems.
I'm pretty sure their punishment for this year is getting their pick at the end of the round instead of based on where they finish on the ladder. Which ends up being pick 19 instead of pick 12 at the moment.
 

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I'm pretty sure their punishment for this year is getting their pick at the end of the round instead of based on where they finish on the ladder. Which ends up being pick 19 instead of pick 12 at the moment.
This is correct. Essendon also don't have a second round selection.
 

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If the ladder were to stay the same the draft order for the first round would be as follows:

1. St Kilda
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Melbourne
4. Greater Western Sydney
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Carlton
7. Richmond
8. West Coast Eagles
9. Adelaide Crows
10. Gold Coast Suns
11. Collingwood
12. North Melbourne
13. Port Adelaide
14. Fremantle
15. Hawthorn
16. Geelong Cats
17. Gold Coast Suns
18. Sydney Swans
19. Essendon
20. Greater Western Sydney
Cheers erich! If this is as even a draft as they're saying we might start seeing teams actually picking players from positions they need, rather than just picking the best of the draft.

I'll lol if GWS pick a kpf with their first pick :p
 
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One to keep an eye on: Christian Petracca

In the TAC Cup the other week he had 32 disposals (17 contested), 10 marks and 5 goals for 192 supercoach points. Already has a mature body (92kgs) and should be one of the better young players next year. Only problem is he'll be one of the first picked meaning he'll be around the 200k mark. But with any luck he'll be a MID/FWD which would almost make him a lock if he looks a part of a best 22 early on.
Definitely should be a m/f. Last year he had a huge season in the Ranges premiership success too. Kicked multiple goals in 12 games and took 48 contested marks in 17 matches. Exceptional for an underage player.

I can't see any other Ranges players getting drafted (local team so I keep an eye on them).

Petracca's 2013 stats: (you can also look at 2014 TAC Cup by clicking on the link under the stats for that season)
http://www.foxsportspulse.com/team_...=1-3020-111714-253881-18717762&ocompID=253881
 

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2014 AFL National Draft Discussion

Anyone else here keeping an eye on the draft and all the prospects?

What do you make of the draft crop this year?

I think Petracca might cost dear for a rookie but will play, should go 2nd at worst.

Heeney as well, should be most important to SC considering how low Sydney will take him. Should be able to play Rd 1 (especially if Mitchell gets traded).
 
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