Strategy 2023: Round 11 Trades

[GrainFedBeef]

Given rookie issues have made smaller tweakle to my trades

Holland/Teackle out

Laird/Wardlaw in

Keep JVR who is playing and lowish BE. Hold Oliver, too many injury trades to date.

May be Cincotta for Ford next week although wwill still need to move Esava on R13 to upgrade Worpel to either Steele/Freo boys

Sicily tenpting over Laird, yet with either D6/F6 to come, think maybe a Gawn Is better if he gets DPP. DC is another cheaper option that becomes available.

 

[xanderdom]

Bench carnage. I'm livid...



The conundrum I find myself in, what I would do for a boost this week..

Option 1a
Anderson > Butters
Wilmot > Humphrey
Left with: 12 trades, $51.9k ITB

Option 1b
Anderson > Merrett
Wilmot > Atkins
Left with: 12 trades, $85.5k ITB

- Both options guaranteeing a Clarry flavoured donut with zero bench cover.

Option 2
Wilmot > Humphrey
Teakle > Weddle via Madden, Roberts, Chesser DPP scrambling
Left with: 12 trades, $59.2k ITB

Shuffle around and I'm left with the below field


Samson on extended bench could still land some TOG without Soldo in the mix, but at least I circumvent a Clarry donut. My regret here is the money loss on Anderson next week, I'm being stubborn on this. What are your thoughts?

 

[Ironhawk]

Bench carnage. I'm livid...

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The conundrum I find myself in, what I would do for a boost this week..

Option 1a
Anderson > Butters
Wilmot > Humphrey
Left with: 12 trades, $51.9k ITB

Option 1b
Anderson > Merrett
Wilmot > Atkins
Left with: 12 trades, $85.5k ITB

- Both options guaranteeing a Clarry flavoured donut with zero bench cover.

Option 2
Wilmot > Humphrey
Teakle > Weddle via Madden, Roberts, Chesser DPP scrambling
Left with: 12 trades, $59.2k ITB

Shuffle around and I'm left with the below field
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Samson on extended bench could still land some TOG without Soldo in the mix, but at least I circumvent a Clarry donut. My regret here is the money loss on Anderson next week, I'm being stubborn on this. What are your thoughts?

If you think Anderson is a keeper, it won't matter if he loses cash. If you definitely don't, I would cull him now. Who knows though, Anderson might go 200 this week and you'll feel sorry for trading him.

Both 1a and 1b look good options to me, despite being sideways on an active player. Tough choice, I don't see Weddle making enough on his own to cover cash lost from holding Anderson for a week and not picking up a gun at a cheaper price, and think you'll be better off longer term getting either Butters or Merrett in now, rather than a week later. I don't see significant difference between Atkins and Humphrey in the time you will have them in your team to decide either way between the two.

 

[Miss_Brightside]

I've noticed that Zach Merrett has been traded in over 11,000 times this week. Why is Zach Merrett such an appealing prospect to a lot of coaches?

 

[ACmonster]

I've noticed that Zach Merrett has been traded in over 11,000 times this week. Why is Zach Merrett such an appealing prospect to a lot of coaches?

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History of coming home strong. Easy fixture. Injuries to Bombers mids.

 

[Brookesy]

I've noticed that Zach Merrett has been traded in over 11,000 times this week. Why is Zach Merrett such an appealing prospect to a lot of coaches?

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Relatively cheap for his potential output, has a great run of fixtures, and for many who are trading Oliver, the same bye helps.

 

[xanderdom]

I've noticed that Zach Merrett has been traded in over 11,000 times this week. Why is Zach Merrett such an appealing prospect to a lot of coaches?

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- Parish and Setterfield out
- Xavier O'Neill (WCE notorious midfield tagger) omitted
- $582k, 72 BE
- 3 round avg of 112
- Second-half of last season avg 117 (6 out of 11 games he scored 130+) versus first-half avg of 106

 

[xanderdom]

If you think Anderson is a keeper, it won't matter if he loses cash. If you definitely don't, I would cull him now. Who knows though, Anderson might go 200 this week and you'll feel sorry for trading him.

Both 1a and 1b look good options to me, despite being sideways on an active player. Tough choice, I don't see Weddle making enough on his own to cover cash lost from holding Anderson for a week and not picking up a gun at a cheaper price, and think you'll be better off longer term getting either Butters or Merrett in now, rather than a week later. I don't see significant difference between Atkins and Humphrey in the time you will have them in your team to decide either way between the two.

Precisely what I'm thinking. Not to mention option 2 increases my rookies on field to 5 (not incl. Sheezel). I'm leaning towards eating a Clarry donut with the hopes that Merrett or Butters go berserk and score 140+.

 

[frosty1]

Is there an option where you use three trades, but get a better premium? That would be my suggestion.

18 is a lot of trades to have at this point, so I think you can afford it. I’m just a bit wary of Smith’s role (Treloar is due back soon) and Wines’ output (one score above 93, but priced at close to that level). Maybe downgrading Wines to upgrade Smith could work.

Would likely need to go early on Wardlaw, then use the extra 150k to get better premiums than Wines and Smith.

I think there's define upside in Wines, but you're right, not a great keeper option.

I've looked at the Hobbs move about 50 times. It goes against everything that I should be doing, but I do like it with Setterfield and Parish out for a bit still. Was thinking a stepping stone to a premo at his bye, but you're probably right. The fact that he's a forward is also a bonus for my team shape.

Would probably trade Sharp instead of Davey if I was going to get Wardlaw I think. Just very nervous about going early on a guy who has a significant history of injuries.

 

[Woodsey]

Think it’s just Oliver to Humphrey for me.
With Simpson rested I’d have a fwd donut if I don’t move Oliver on.

Gives me the chance to look at Neale and Steele to get after their bye and more flexibility with another GC bye.

Also let’s me look at the DPP status’s. Macrae next week if he gets fwd status.

 

[I am Cursed :(]

Seems to be a lot of people ditching Oliver.. What's changed? I thought he was potentially only a 1 or 2 weeker?

 

[Stubbsy’s Heroes]

Precisely what I'm thinking. Not to mention option 2 increases my rookies on field to 5 (not incl. Sheezel). I'm leaning towards eating a Clarry donut with the hopes that Merrett or Butters go berserk and score 140+.

For what’s it worth, there is no way I would be trading Anderson out of your team - with his ceiling, there is every chance he matches those you are proposing to trade in from here on in, or one of them get injured and you’re down another trade. I’d move on players like Hollands and teakle, either to the rookies you mention, however there is risk they revert to scoring 60’s, or to someone cheap like Wines and Mullin (I think you can afford that?). Assuming you want to keep Oliver, of course. Just my thoughts from a different perspective.

 

[Darkie]

Would likely need to go early on Wardlaw, then use the extra 150k to get better premiums than Wines and Smith.

I think there's define upside in Wines, but you're right, not a great keeper option.

I've looked at the Hobbs move about 50 times. It goes against everything that I should be doing, but I do like it with Setterfield and Parish out for a bit still. Was thinking a stepping stone to a premo at his bye, but you're probably right. The fact that he's a forward is also a bonus for my team shape.

Would probably trade Sharp instead of Davey if I was going to get Wardlaw I think. Just very nervous about going early on a guy who has a significant history of injuries.

Now that you mention it, I just had a look at Hobbs’ price and it’s a fair bit higher than I would have guessed. He’s actually not getting that many CBAs - he seems like one worth revisiting as well. Fyfe might be an alternative at a slightly lower price point - you know the pros and cons on him!

I see what you are saying re Wardlaw, the injury risk may have been a bit overlooked (or simply underestimated, given not everyone will have followed him last year).

The main thing I would say is if coaches are slightly stretching to get trades done cash-wise this week (eg trying to turn Oliver, a cash cow and a stalled cash cow into two premos), it’s probably better to get 1-2 pieces that you’re happy to keep in your team for a while, rather than trying to squeeze in another keeper and potentially compromising 2-3 of the ins. It’s a situation I was weighing up myself in DT. Good luck!

 

[donnybuang]

I think keeping one for the likely resting of players/ injuries in the run home especially around finals is needed.
But more than 1 feels like overkill. Might as well boost and get your team as ready for byes as possible

Also handy to have a 4 trade boost in your pocket to slingshot players through byes.

 

[Johnsy44]

Seems to be a lot of people ditching Oliver.. What's changed? I thought he was potentially only a 1 or 2 weeker?

I’m worried Dees go conservative with him and hold him until after their bye, which means 4 weeks

 

[Bermi]

Seems to be a lot of people ditching Oliver.. What's changed? I thought he was potentially only a 1 or 2 weeker?

Oliver's time out from playing is an unknown and the Club says "MelbourneFC coach Simon Goodwin: "It's a minor (hamstring) strain. We're going to build him through that process. How long that takes, we're unsure. We'll give him every chance in the next few weeks. We're going to be very cautious."

Also, with so many Rookies not playing this round, SC Teams will need more players to field.

 

[donnybuang]

Seems to be a lot of people ditching Oliver.. What's changed? I thought he was potentially only a 1 or 2 weeker?

It could be anywhere from 1-4 weeks. There's no real information coming from the club. So we're all guessing. Those trading him are either punting on the 4 week injury, or covering doughnuts.

I'm trading him, so going by my year so far, he'll probably be back next week or a late inclusion this week. 🙃

 

[Philzsay]

I've got both Oliver and Josh Kelly.

The easy thing to do would be trade both, but I'm wary of my trade count. Plus I know Oliver is someone I'd want back in my side asap.

So I'm actually thinking of going a bit podish and holding onto Clarry, and just trading Kelly.

 

[randomcliche]

Bench carnage. I'm livid...

View attachment 57467

The conundrum I find myself in, what I would do for a boost this week..

Option 1a
Anderson > Butters
Wilmot > Humphrey
Left with: 12 trades, $51.9k ITB

Option 1b
Anderson > Merrett
Wilmot > Atkins
Left with: 12 trades, $85.5k ITB

- Both options guaranteeing a Clarry flavoured donut with zero bench cover.

Option 2
Wilmot > Humphrey
Teakle > Weddle via Madden, Roberts, Chesser DPP scrambling
Left with: 12 trades, $59.2k ITB

Shuffle around and I'm left with the below field
View attachment 57468

Samson on extended bench could still land some TOG without Soldo in the mix, but at least I circumvent a Clarry donut. My regret here is the money loss on Anderson next week, I'm being stubborn on this. What are your thoughts?

Like you, I’ve no boost. I’m holding Jelly and Oliver. I’m selling Anderson. But. My bench can cover it, just with a single fix of Cincotta to Humphries. A trade I hate. Let’s be frank, your bench needs work because cash gen is stuffed, so stuffed I don’t think you can afford to hold Anderson. But at the same time your trades balance is skinny. So skinny I don’t know if you can afford to sideways him, only blessing being you can extract a bit of cash. You need to spreadsheet up your possible trades to full premo. With 5 perhaps 6 upgrades you probably need to pull in a good 150k from each downgrade to make your upgrades to your on field rookies. This can come from either good downgrade options, extracting value from Anderson or your bench (Teakle and Cincotta go close but there ain’t the downgrade options this week…perhaps early on the Swan…but Jez).

Will you happy with Anderson in your team? I doubt it. But perhaps a bit of hope that 180 point scoring beast running out the front of packs ball in hand returns…because you need a bit of luck and better value from Anderson to achieve full premo before running out of trades.

 

[Old Big 'Ead]

Sitting here tonight without a boost and reflecting on the gaps on my bench this week, definitely think, yeah a boost right about now would be handy 🤣
gunna change my boost strategy next year and make sure I keep one for this round prior to the bye rounds!

I would have thought the same to begin with, but this year is unprecedented IMO. Keeping a boost for the bye rounds sounds good, but can possibly mean that you slip behind the pack too

I don't believe there has been this much carnage before. An aggressive approach to trading generally leads to a full premo team (meaning using boosts earlier), but this season has just been different for so many reasons!!