BBL | 13 Player's Price & Break Even Projections by TAILS

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Round 4 BE calcs:
- Sorted by AVE

- Please point out any gremlins as this is a combined formula / manual process ...
- +/- 1 they should be pretty much right ...
- Some new formula is now being utilised for any players entering or coming out of a DGR and should now better match SC Gold
- still work in progress so please be patient but many thanks to @Darkie

- I've calculated the MN using the HOB team as they have no DGR complications yet ...

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Behrendorff only went up $6.8k :cry:

JFM has a massive 88 BE, Clarke 1 and QDK 33.
I'm still adjusting the projections formula but have a fair idea what to do now .... a learning process and think I'll have it right from here on in
- due to the amount of DGR this season it isn't as easy as usual ... 3 different formula's involved ...

If I back tracked and tweaked the formula knowing what I do now, I would have got the same MELR BE's
- so that is good to know at least
 
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Round 4 BE calcs:
- Sorted by BE

- Please point out any gremlins as this is a combined formula / manual process ...
- +/- 1 they should be pretty much right ...
- Some new formula is now being utilised for any players entering or coming out of a DGR and should now better match SC Gold
- still work in progress so please be patient but many thanks to @Darkie

- I've calculated the MN using the HOB team as they have no DGR complications yet ...

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I'm still adjusting the projections formula but have a fair idea what to do now .... a learning process and think I'll have it right from here on in
- due to the amount of DGR this season it isn't as easy as usual ... 3 different formula's involved ...

If I back tracked and tweaked the formula knowing what I do now, I would have got the same MELR BE's
- so that is good to know at least
Great work as always :cool:(y)(y)
 
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Round 4 / Game 1 update (#16):

- BRI v SYDT @ Gabba (7.15 pm start)

Notes:

- BRI won the toss and decided to Bat first ...

- SYDT still has another game to play yet so price changes will change yet again because of the DGR !!
- So this is not a "true" reflection yet until the next game is completed ... please don't do any trades based on that teams predictions just yet ..

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Round 4 / Game 2 update (#17):

- HOB v MELS @ Blundstone Arena (7.15 pm start)

Notes:

- MELS won the toss and decided to Bowl first ...
- Weather affected game .... 2nd innings reduced to 7 overs ...

- I'm using a new formula for the MELS BE Proj values
- very much a test case but think they should be right ... will know next round ...
- a lot of "SCS" work going into this in the background !!

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Round 4 / Game 3 update (#18):

- MELR v ADE @ Marvel Stadium (7.15 pm start)

Notes:

- ADE won the toss and decided to Bat first ...

- I'm using a new formula for both teams BE Proj values
- very much a test case but think they should be right ... will know next round ...
- a lot of "SCS" work going into this in the background !!

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Top 20 teams - end of round 4

For those coaches at the pointy end of the overall ranking, this thread may be of some use as you endeavour to craft your way onward and upwards for the remainder of the season.

Notes:
- Below is a listing of players for the Top 20 teams with non-playing players greyed out and injured players in red text for ease of viewing.
- Also included is total points and points behind the leader for subsequent teams.

- At least 11 teams managed to stay in it this round ..
- From a SCS perspective we have at least 2 teams in it that I know of ... @JT23 (Tobes Troops) and @Damion23 (Team Damion)

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Round 5 BE calcs:
- Sorted by AVE

- Please point out any gremlins as this is a combined formula / manual process ...
- +/- 1 they should be pretty much right ... only got one player out I think (Abbott .. not by a lot and will work on it later)
- the new formulae being used (3 of them now) appear to have worked ... thanks @Darkie

- I've calculated the MN using the HOB team as they have no DGR complications yet ...

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Round 5 BE calcs:
- Sorted by AVE

- Please point out any gremlins as this is a combined formula / manual process ...
- +/- 1 they should be pretty much right ... only got one player out I think (Abbott .. not by a lot and will work on it later)
- the new formulae being used (3 of them now) appear to have worked ... thanks @Darkie

- I've calculated the MN using the HOB team as they have no DGR complications yet ...

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This is very good to hear - excellent work @Tails!
 
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Round 5 BE calcs:
- Sorted by BE

- Please point out any gremlins as this is a combined formula / manual process ...
- +/- 1 they should be pretty much right ... only got one player out I think (Abbott .. not by a lot and will work on it later)
- the new formulae being used (3 of them now) appear to have worked ... thanks @Darkie

- I've calculated the MN using the HOB team as they have no DGR complications yet ...

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Round 5 / Game 1 update (#20):

- ADE v MELS @ Adelaide Oval (7.15 pm start)

Notes:

- MELS won the toss and decided to Bowl first ...

MELS still has another game to play yet so price changes will change yet again because of the DGR !!
- So this is not a "true" reflection yet until the next game is completed ... please don't do any trades based on that teams predictions just yet ..

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Certainly not questioning your work, @Tails, more of an observation.
In the Strikers table above, I'm not sure I understand the BE's of the top 3 players in the table.
Short M last 2 scores (including tonight) 10 + 92 has a projected BE of 2, which seems very low given his price, and the 10 in his cycle.
Then compare it to Lynn and Overton, who are worth less (not worthless!) and have scored higher, but have significantly higher BE's.
 
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Certainly not questioning your work, @Tails, more of an observation.
In the Strikers table above, I'm not sure I understand the BE's of the top 3 players in the table.
Short M last 2 scores (including tonight) 10 + 92 has a projected BE of 2, which seems very low given his price, and the 10 in his cycle.
Then compare it to Lynn and Overton, who are worth less (not worthless!) and have scored higher, but have significantly higher BE's.
You are correct in your observations regarding the projected BE's .. taken me a lot of time to work out with some awesome assistance from @Darkie ...
- I'm now using some new formulae (3 of them instead of the usual one that you are referring to)
- because ADE have a DGR next round I'm using one of the 2 new ones ...

So regarding M.Short (or any ADE player) ... only their last score (and future projected price) will be used in their future projected BE calculations ...
- hard to explain in words but that seems to be how it works ...
- this has been trialed and appears to work ... fingers crossed but I'm pretty confident it will be right ..
 
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You are correct in your observations regarding the projected BE's .. taken me a lot of time to work out with some awesome assistance from @Darkie ...
- I'm now using some new formulae (3 of them instead of the usual one that you are referring to)
- because ADE have a DGR next round I'm using one of the 2 new ones ...

So regarding M.Short (or any ADE player) ... only their last score (and future projected price) will be used in their future projected BE calculations ...
- hard to explain in words but that seems to be how it works ...
- this has been trialed and appears to work ... fingers crossed but I'm pretty confident it will be right ..
Thanks for the reply.
Still has me scratching my head when comparing M Short and Lynn.
Lynn scored higher than Short, is valued less, but has a much higher BE.
I'm sure you and Darkie are across this, jst something I need to wrap my head around.
 
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