Discussion The Round 0 Knee Jerk
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Rejigged the side as mentioned two nights ago to maximise points on field over rookie dollar making.
I brought Grundy back in (who'll no doubt put his cue in the rack), but had to downgrade a strong mid to Nick Martin.
Harmes & Fyfe had to go for Luke Jackson at F1 and I like what I've been able to do. Lost a gun mid, but feel stronger across the field points wise.
I brought Grundy back in (who'll no doubt put his cue in the rack), but had to downgrade a strong mid to Nick Martin.
Harmes & Fyfe had to go for Luke Jackson at F1 and I like what I've been able to do. Lost a gun mid, but feel stronger across the field points wise.
No changes after last night's game.
Trying to avoid players from both sides except rookies as already have a couple of double bye players from the Swans. Passing on Williams, three midpricers in my team is enough risk and even with 40 trades I'll be in a mess if all the others don't work out. If his body holds together he'll score ok though from watching last night. Will likely pick up Dunkley after his bye, maybe even a touch cheaper. Don't like the look of Neale, he's avoiding tackling, presumably due to injury.
Good game of footy, much better than the night before.
Trying to avoid players from both sides except rookies as already have a couple of double bye players from the Swans. Passing on Williams, three midpricers in my team is enough risk and even with 40 trades I'll be in a mess if all the others don't work out. If his body holds together he'll score ok though from watching last night. Will likely pick up Dunkley after his bye, maybe even a touch cheaper. Don't like the look of Neale, he's avoiding tackling, presumably due to injury.
Good game of footy, much better than the night before.
Big concerns for him given his role last year, I don't really see why they'd change it given how close to a GF they got in the end. Maybe they change it up and he does go back inside this year, especially with Callaghan out for a bit.
Love him as a player but with his durability, his bye and his role under Kingsley last year, I'd need to see something very different this afternoon.
He's got value though.
Both in my current side, not actually sure what I want to see from Touk, probably prefer an 80 with a great role than a 130 with slight role concerns.
I think at this point that his role is the only thing that would move him out of my side (obviously injury also).
Will be watching. He feels like that safe bet for a guy to average in the 95-105 range. Ultimately though I think the bye factor kills him as I just don't see the 110 scoring to sustain the bye. He's the kind of safe player I'll be looking at post bye if he's cheap though.
Love him as a player but with his durability, his bye and his role under Kingsley last year, I'd need to see something very different this afternoon.
He's got value though.
Both in my current side, not actually sure what I want to see from Touk, probably prefer an 80 with a great role than a 130 with slight role concerns.
I think at this point that his role is the only thing that would move him out of my side (obviously injury also).
Will be watching. He feels like that safe bet for a guy to average in the 95-105 range. Ultimately though I think the bye factor kills him as I just don't see the 110 scoring to sustain the bye. He's the kind of safe player I'll be looking at post bye if he's cheap though.
I really don't love this move. Ignoring the Gawn aspect, who I'm big on fwiw, I just feel like you're taking the best forward prospect so that you can pick a forward over a ruck, essentially, and given English/Marshall at the top (far, far better picks than any forward) or Xerri/Grundy (far better value than any comparable forward) are all in the rucks it feels like a wasted opportunity.
As well as the factor that Jackson as a forward provides incredible cover to Gawn/Grundy through their byes or just if out for a week for whatever reason (cover applies to all rucks really) and it just feels like Jackson at F1.
Really only case for it, imo, is you don't like any of the Gawn, Grundy, English, Xerri or Marshall (or another) group to pick them ahead of the likes of Heeney/Flanders/Macrae?
Maybe I've got a different read but if you asked me to name the position I feel the most certainty with the premiums it would be the rucks. English might actually be the best premium pick available and the only reason he's not at Bont levels of selection is that Gawn and Grundy are so underpriced. Put it this way, if this was the Bolter comp where you have the 4 utilities, I'd be taking English, Marshall, Gawn, Grundy and Xerri in my starting side!
As well as the factor that Jackson as a forward provides incredible cover to Gawn/Grundy through their byes or just if out for a week for whatever reason (cover applies to all rucks really) and it just feels like Jackson at F1.
Really only case for it, imo, is you don't like any of the Gawn, Grundy, English, Xerri or Marshall (or another) group to pick them ahead of the likes of Heeney/Flanders/Macrae?
Maybe I've got a different read but if you asked me to name the position I feel the most certainty with the premiums it would be the rucks. English might actually be the best premium pick available and the only reason he's not at Bont levels of selection is that Gawn and Grundy are so underpriced. Put it this way, if this was the Bolter comp where you have the 4 utilities, I'd be taking English, Marshall, Gawn, Grundy and Xerri in my starting side!
He's barely more expensive than the rookies, who all have at least as much sub risk, and he's got proven scoring history of 100+, priced at 45 he only needs a 75 average. He's also proven he's capable of big scores which accelerate cash gains and has a 106 in his rolling average to start with.
As much as we're flooded with trades, can still only make a couple a week and r3 remains a vital round to maximise trades so saving one for him could be very limiting, a couple of injuries and you could miss the best cow there is.
I 100% agree with everything you've said with the sub/job security but I also completely get why people are picking him. I really like McKercher and Reid but they're only priced about 8-10 points cheaper than Lyons and I know if Lyons keeps that role he's going to score 90+.
The biggest problem with Lyons is he plays the very last game next week and you'd be basically locked into keepinig the cash to get Fyfe instead (assuming you don't have) as the only real bailout if he was the sub.
I also think the sub next week is pretty unlikely, I don't like that they play him because he only plays one role and it's at the expense of much better players but he had a really solid game and laying 9 tackles in a game where your team was embarrassingly soft is always a good starting point for another chance next week. Coleman injury also obviously moves them one run down their depth ladder as well.
As much as we're flooded with trades, can still only make a couple a week and r3 remains a vital round to maximise trades so saving one for him could be very limiting, a couple of injuries and you could miss the best cow there is.
I 100% agree with everything you've said with the sub/job security but I also completely get why people are picking him. I really like McKercher and Reid but they're only priced about 8-10 points cheaper than Lyons and I know if Lyons keeps that role he's going to score 90+.
The biggest problem with Lyons is he plays the very last game next week and you'd be basically locked into keepinig the cash to get Fyfe instead (assuming you don't have) as the only real bailout if he was the sub.
I also think the sub next week is pretty unlikely, I don't like that they play him because he only plays one role and it's at the expense of much better players but he had a really solid game and laying 9 tackles in a game where your team was embarrassingly soft is always a good starting point for another chance next week. Coleman injury also obviously moves them one run down their depth ladder as well.
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60K to Green. I can't pick Kelly on that reasoning first and foremost. And then the role you mentioned. It's not inside like it used to be.
The landscape has changed on Gawn though. A 70 has been dropped. He now has to hit ~120 to maintain price through round 2. And then the bye in round 6. Just don't think he has as much hurt factor for non-owners as he did prior to his round 0 score.
Depends how many forwards you rate as well. Can easily run Jackson at R1 and be happy with the selections I have.
The landscape has changed on Gawn though. A 70 has been dropped. He now has to hit ~120 to maintain price through round 2. And then the bye in round 6. Just don't think he has as much hurt factor for non-owners as he did prior to his round 0 score.
Depends how many forwards you rate as well. Can easily run Jackson at R1 and be happy with the selections I have.