Discussion The Round 0 Knee Jerk
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I first saw this on my phone where the players names aren't clear so all I saw was your comment. My first instinct was too yell out bull****. 
Information is just as important as cash and trades so I can see the value in picking rnd0 players. Most of us already have egg on our face, and we now get a free crack at these players.
Information is just as important as cash and trades so I can see the value in picking rnd0 players. Most of us already have egg on our face, and we now get a free crack at these players.
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On Lyons and just that price point in general.
I'm not overly confident in a 3rd premium mid besides Bont and Green. I could go Dawson and a rookie, however the rookie doesn't really fill with confidence either as its someone like a Cadman type.
Being a unique type season I don't know which way to play it. Go for a more value selection like a Crouch, with a lower mid ranged option like a Bonner, keeping the possibility of extra value up at the expense of an extra trade (at least).
If Lyons turns into a decent looking stepping stone, then without a Bonner type how are we getting to him?
I don't even know if Bonner is going to turn out to be a decent value selection but he does offer a look at his BE after 2 games, likewise Lyons selection for a 3rd game.
Kind of the last piece of my team puzzle and I'm a bit stumped on what to do.
I'm not overly confident in a 3rd premium mid besides Bont and Green. I could go Dawson and a rookie, however the rookie doesn't really fill with confidence either as its someone like a Cadman type.
Being a unique type season I don't know which way to play it. Go for a more value selection like a Crouch, with a lower mid ranged option like a Bonner, keeping the possibility of extra value up at the expense of an extra trade (at least).
If Lyons turns into a decent looking stepping stone, then without a Bonner type how are we getting to him?
I don't even know if Bonner is going to turn out to be a decent value selection but he does offer a look at his BE after 2 games, likewise Lyons selection for a 3rd game.
Kind of the last piece of my team puzzle and I'm a bit stumped on what to do.
After last night's games.
Sexton stays and will be an on ground rookie. My only Suns player. Touk touk looks good and will be an upgrade target.
Gibcus stays and looks ok as a back line on field rook. Wait and see on Naismith, but looks fine if he does play. Like the look of Shorts role, might be worth looking at after his bye.
Not sold on Wehr, might become Roberts or someone cheaper. Himmelberg stays, as does Cadman, though Cadman not on the field unless things are dire.
Green a definite upgrade target, might win the brownlow the way he looks.
Just the one Collingwood player in Daicos, and he isn't leaving my side unless a tsunami wipes out Victoria Park , so long as he's fit.
Sexton stays and will be an on ground rookie. My only Suns player. Touk touk looks good and will be an upgrade target.
Gibcus stays and looks ok as a back line on field rook. Wait and see on Naismith, but looks fine if he does play. Like the look of Shorts role, might be worth looking at after his bye.
Not sold on Wehr, might become Roberts or someone cheaper. Himmelberg stays, as does Cadman, though Cadman not on the field unless things are dire.
Green a definite upgrade target, might win the brownlow the way he looks.
Just the one Collingwood player in Daicos, and he isn't leaving my side unless a tsunami wipes out Victoria Park , so long as he's fit.
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Plenty of knee jerking, not sure I can work it all out
stage 1
Out Gulden Gawn Steele Harvey Burgoyne
in: Heeney English Flanders Cadman Howes
Had Gawn late last year and had plenty of low scores with high ones. Think solo ruck over time will take its toll. Could easily see him back if I want to soften the below changes.
stage 2 being considered
Out: Fyfe Jordon Massimo McKercher Mead
In: Short, Windsor Lazaro Dempsey Nyuon
stage 1
Out Gulden Gawn Steele Harvey Burgoyne
in: Heeney English Flanders Cadman Howes
Had Gawn late last year and had plenty of low scores with high ones. Think solo ruck over time will take its toll. Could easily see him back if I want to soften the below changes.
stage 2 being considered
Out: Fyfe Jordon Massimo McKercher Mead
In: Short, Windsor Lazaro Dempsey Nyuon
I actually disagree with this logic for a few reasons.
1. If he's worth having, he's scoring another 90+ type score, that's probably 30 points on an unknown rookie, he's proven himself capable of 130 as well. Could conceivably be 70 points.
2. His price is structural. He's actually not an easy trade unless you plan for him in which case, you may as well start him and get the benefit of point 1.
3. Week 3 trades are precious correction moves, as per point two, he probably involves two of the trades to get done but at best, he's one of your trades. Even assuming no injuries to that point that trade has a lot of value.
4. You can loop with him in week 2, which itself has genuine value and could generate points, picking your best 18 from 23 instead of 22 is a bonus. Most will have Williams so the captaincy side not as relevant but if you don't have Williams, he also adds that. To be fair, I'd be surprised if even with two shots the M9 counts in many best 18s!
I don't disagree that the wait and see approach is possible but I don't think it's the optimum idea.
Playing the last game in round 1 is a genuine nightmare though! I guess could bail into Sharp, if he's there, but pretty limited options outside that but I'd be genuinely surprised if he was the sub this week (things I definitely said about Billings this week for $200 please).
I'd say that there was pretty much nothing that happened this round that should have changed your opinion on the players except for Coleman and Docherty, obviously.
If you didn't have these guys in your team before this round I'm genuinely not sure what you'd have seen to change that. Similarly if you did have them, I don't think there were many that changed that.
Maybe Gulden on the negative side just with the role and output (he's cheap in a month most likely if he is going to be a gun, can probably wait post bye now) but if you didn't like Heeney/Flanders/Grundy/Gawn/Daicos/Green/Miller/etc then I think you're probably being reactionary if rushing them in and vice versa. All of those guys played the same role as preseason and as advertised, there shouldn't have been any real shocks.
The rookie guys a bit different, those are far more guesses than educated decisions and having those answered one way or the other is nice.
If you didn't have these guys in your team before this round I'm genuinely not sure what you'd have seen to change that. Similarly if you did have them, I don't think there were many that changed that.
Maybe Gulden on the negative side just with the role and output (he's cheap in a month most likely if he is going to be a gun, can probably wait post bye now) but if you didn't like Heeney/Flanders/Grundy/Gawn/Daicos/Green/Miller/etc then I think you're probably being reactionary if rushing them in and vice versa. All of those guys played the same role as preseason and as advertised, there shouldn't have been any real shocks.
The rookie guys a bit different, those are far more guesses than educated decisions and having those answered one way or the other is nice.