Strategy 2024: Round 4 Trades

[sethlad]

Ok,so Tom Brown v Draper seems to be the ongoing topic.
I don't really comment on other teams but I did see Draper play & he looked ok.

As for Brown,what you need to know is he is a top 20 pick with 3 years in the system.
He's around 194cm & can mark it but it's his kicking that got him drafted imho.

Yze loves guys that can kick & he really can. What that means in SC,not sure but he will attempt the more risky option happily. This will frustrate some but like most of these kids, confidence is not an issue.

Has always had his critics as he took a while to adjust to the level. Won't get it 25 times but rarely wastes it. Can't see any way he gets dropped as Tiges need these kids to play.
Sticking to my original thought that he will safely hold down D7/8.
(Waits for him to score 27 & not be seen again)

 

[Feerits Elf]

is there a chance dempsey is a pseudo keeper in the fwd line if he continues to avg 80-90 considering how few fwd options there are(might be more after dpp changes)

No

But we’re allowed to dream

 

[ST1974]

Two questions
1) Brown (Rich) or Draper (Free) for Coffield.

(2) Do I take 129 from Gawn as Captain or roll the dice with Heeney, Serong, Bont, or Rozee.

I currently have it on Heeney as they are playing WC. However, that strategy did not work that well last week when I had the C on Bont. I am worried that the Swans might take the foot off the pedal once they know the game is won and this might affect Heeney's score.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Good luck to all this weekend.

 

[donnybuang]

is there a chance dempsey is a pseudo keeper in the fwd line if he continues to avg 80-90 considering how few fwd options there are(might be more after dpp changes)

Doubt it, he's had a pretty easy draw so far.

 

[Darkie]

I don’t think it’s as simple as that. Everyone’s teams are different and what works for some won’t work for others. If people are boosting to bring in a premium defender I’ve got no issues with that. A Ryan over Howes might just be worth more than a Steele over Jordan etc.

I think we should be careful generalising trades and boosts across the board

That’s why I said primarily.

If there’s enough value captured elsewhere in the combination (and it can’t be captured another way), it’s fine … but given that a trade to cover a single donut is generally not a good use, using a trade plus a boost cover what is effectively only a partial donut seems a very poor use in isolation.

 

[aj74]

Yup! I'm banking on 130 from both ;-). I'm boosting to undo 3 of my 5 trade ins this season. My Pink stink, my billings blunder, and my hurt Hore are all goneski.

Yeah I can see that. Your pink gets in the stink, you blunder with the billings. Someone's going to be feeling pretty hurt about it.

 

[wolfbunny]

Dempsey has to be seen in almost the same view as Massimo was last week at about the same price point.
Ok, Massimo has a better role but given Dempsey has shown a higher ceiling without the assistance of goals which was the potential knock on him after the first few rounds the equation has changed since Mondays game. Has a good tank, can get to both ends of the ground and can still make more coin.
And then who are you shaking from the tree to grab him, Billing’s, Jordon, Fyfe, Sexton.
Sexton is out, Jordon has his bye next week, Fyfe has a load of doubt about his JS in regard to being subbed or rested. Billing’s obviously should’ve already been booted prior to last night (I went Darcy with him)
None of the above are making $$$ or scoring points of suitable qty’s/amount to justify the hold.
Besides my midfield rookies scoring and making $$$ well, the defs have struggled and fwds been better but only marginally, with some doubts about what’s on the horizon it’s better to grab him now before we are stuck without any suitable replacements.
Dempsey only owned by 14% so as a rookie whatever he makes from here is poddish against the other coaches. (Don’t have SC gold so don’t know how many have traded in this week) if I’m moving Jordon to him 1 week earlier than he otherwise was going to be traded then he’ll most likely make more coin over the 2 weeks, out score him over 2 weeks plus I’ve pocketed the price difference of approx 130k this week.

 

[inwhiterooms]

Who's the better keep, Fisher or Jordon? Jordon on bye next week FWIW. Love the matchup this week but he's been very meh.

 

[aj74]

Dempsey has to be seen in almost the same view as Massimo was last week at about the same price point.
Ok, Massimo has a better role but given Dempsey has shown a higher ceiling without the assistance of goals which was the potential knock on him after the first few rounds the equation has changed since Mondays game. Has a good tank, can get to both ends of the ground and can still make more coin.
And then who are you shaking from the tree to grab him, Billing’s, Jordon, Fyfe, Sexton.
Sexton is out, Jordon has his bye next week, Fyfe has a load of doubt about his JS in regard to being subbed or rested. Billing’s obviously should’ve already been booted prior to last night (I went Darcy with him)
None of the above are making $$$ or scoring points of suitable qty’s/amount to justify the hold.
Besides my midfield rookies scoring and making $$$ well, the defs have struggled and fwds been better but only marginally, with some doubts about what’s on the horizon it’s better to grab him now before we are stuck without any suitable replacements.
Dempsey only owned by 14% so as a rookie whatever he makes from here is poddish against the other coaches. (Don’t have SC gold so don’t know how many have traded in this week) if I’m moving Jordon to him 1 week earlier than he otherwise was going to be traded then he’ll most likely make more coin over the 2 weeks, out score him over 2 weeks plus I’ve pocketed the price difference of approx 130k this week.

Exactly.

If you were offered an MP to trade down to at 220k who looked ok for an 80 average, you'd probably go for it. You don't expecct the MP to become a keeper. You just want somewhere up around 150k and decent enough onfield points for a month or so.

Where the problem exists, and this is where I am probably making my mistake, is that people don't discount the money they would have made from not trading.

EG: I could go Reid to Dempsey. Yes, Demspey might make me 150k but Reid would probably make me another 100 too. Therefore, this trade is only worth 50k

Then you've got my current situation where I am upgrading Wilson into Dempsey at an initial loss, purely for the onfield points and an earlier, faster upgrade later. Traditionally, that's a terrible trade. These days it's probably still quite wasteful

 

[TigerTime]

Not sure that Powell is a top 6 forward either. I do, however, think he will be over 460k at some stage and was therefore a good trade at 311k.

He's 372k now yeah? Do you think he will make it to 520k? I think that unless he gets roled out back to the forward line or injured, then yes.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I've decided to go with Powell and hope he keeps the role all year.
Having the 200k leftover was the deciding factor as it will come in handy to fix my backline in coming weeks

 

[Hondo]

Dempsey has to be seen in almost the same view as Massimo was last week at about the same price point.
Ok, Massimo has a better role but given Dempsey has shown a higher ceiling without the assistance of goals which was the potential knock on him after the first few rounds the equation has changed since Mondays game. Has a good tank, can get to both ends of the ground and can still make more coin.
And then who are you shaking from the tree to grab him, Billing’s, Jordon, Fyfe, Sexton.
Sexton is out, Jordon has his bye next week, Fyfe has a load of doubt about his JS in regard to being subbed or rested. Billing’s obviously should’ve already been booted prior to last night (I went Darcy with him)
None of the above are making $$$ or scoring points of suitable qty’s/amount to justify the hold.
Besides my midfield rookies scoring and making $$$ well, the defs have struggled and fwds been better but only marginally, with some doubts about what’s on the horizon it’s better to grab him now before we are stuck without any suitable replacements.
Dempsey only owned by 14% so as a rookie whatever he makes from here is poddish against the other coaches. (Don’t have SC gold so don’t know how many have traded in this week) if I’m moving Jordon to him 1 week earlier than he otherwise was going to be traded then he’ll most likely make more coin over the 2 weeks, out score him over 2 weeks plus I’ve pocketed the price difference of approx 130k this week.

Noting that Massimo has gone 87 and 68 since his 121 first up.
Dempsey already has a 56 and needed 3 goals to get the first 96. Granted did well v Hawthorn last week with no goals but still think we need to remember and be realistic about what he is and what he isn't.

 

[Hondo]

EG: I could go Reid to Dempsey. Yes, Demspey might make me 150k but Reid would probably make me another 100 too. Therefore, this trade is only worth 50k

Great point here adds to my other post.

How bad would you feel if Reid in fact averages more than Dempsey from here? Renders that trade totally useless.

 

[Old Big 'Ead]

Who's the better keep, Fisher or Jordon? Jordon on bye next week FWIW. Love the matchup this week but he's been very meh.

Jordon just for this week. Move him on next week if you can.

 

[7/11]

Dempsey has to be seen in almost the same view as Massimo was last week at about the same price point.
Ok, Massimo has a better role but given Dempsey has shown a higher ceiling without the assistance of goals which was the potential knock on him after the first few rounds the equation has changed since Mondays game. Has a good tank, can get to both ends of the ground and can still make more coin.
And then who are you shaking from the tree to grab him, Billing’s, Jordon, Fyfe, Sexton.
Sexton is out, Jordon has his bye next week, Fyfe has a load of doubt about his JS in regard to being subbed or rested. Billing’s obviously should’ve already been booted prior to last night (I went Darcy with him)
None of the above are making $$$ or scoring points of suitable qty’s/amount to justify the hold.
Besides my midfield rookies scoring and making $$$ well, the defs have struggled and fwds been better but only marginally, with some doubts about what’s on the horizon it’s better to grab him now before we are stuck without any suitable replacements.
Dempsey only owned by 14% so as a rookie whatever he makes from here is poddish against the other coaches. (Don’t have SC gold so don’t know how many have traded in this week) if I’m moving Jordon to him 1 week earlier than he otherwise was going to be traded then he’ll most likely make more coin over the 2 weeks, out score him over 2 weeks plus I’ve pocketed the price difference of approx 130k this week.

Massimo scored his 122 without any goals or behinds. Would argue he has the higher ceiling by far. Lower floor? Maybe, but Massimo is still scoring more on average.

As for whether Dempsey is worth it. Totally depends on whether you believe he has JS. It’s very possible he could be rotated with guys like Knevitt who can play a similar role and are handy themselves.

 

[aj74]

Great point here adds to my other post.

How bad would you feel if Reid in fact averages more than Dempsey from here? Renders that trade totally useless.

Depends on when you think you're going to need the money and how much of it. Likelihood of different outcomes and so on.

Dempsey could max out at 350k in 4 weeks' time, say. 130k profit. Reid could make it to 400k by round 12 for a 160k profit. Dempsey is probably the better option then

Disclosure: I've gone Wilson > Dempsey for this reason

 

[Bombers2win]

Brown v Draper
Draper +1 game before Rd7, Carlton Port WC Carlton/Port 60 maximum, WC 60 minimum.
Brown Saints/WC bye. Saints/WC I’d expect 60 minimum.
Being to harsh?
FWIW I’m leaning to Brown

 

[randomcliche]

I've found the hat for SCS

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Dairy farming ain't what it use to be. Think it should crypto kids or something...so dated!

 

[Monya Meow Meow]

For those asking about Tom Brown, please refer to post# 641.
@sethlad has very kindly provided a good analysis on him

 

[Under The Dome]

The problem you face by getting Dempsey after his price rise, is that your basically putting yourself $71.4k behind everyone who has him (only 14% of coaches surprisingly). At least with Darcy you are on an equal footing

The cost is $9.4k but an extra trade with Billings up $62k.

 

[Athomas]

Painful watch this game... Feel Powell is more of an AF player than SC.. The tackles aren't a bad thing but some disposals would be nice

McKercher 3 running bounces should help his score there