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England (Playing XI): Philip Salt, Ben Duckett, Will Jacks, Harry Brook(c), Jamie Smith(w), Liam Livingstone, Jacob Bethell, Brydon Carse, Matthew Potts, Olly Stone, Adil Rashid
Australia (Playing XI): Travis Head, Matthew Short, Steven Smith(c), Josh Inglis(w), Marnus Labuschagne, Glenn Maxwell, Aaron Hardie, Cooper Connolly, Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa, Josh Hazlewood
Australia have won the toss and have opted to field
Australia (Playing XI): Travis Head, Matthew Short, Steven Smith(c), Josh Inglis(w), Marnus Labuschagne, Glenn Maxwell, Aaron Hardie, Cooper Connolly, Mitchell Starc, Adam Zampa, Josh Hazlewood
Australia have won the toss and have opted to field
ENG 309 (49.2) -Duckett 107, Brook 72, Head 4-28
AUS 165/2 (20.4) -Short 58
Australia won by 49 runs (DLS method)
PLAYER OF THE MATCH
Travis Head
PLAYER OF THE SERIES
Travis Head
AUS 165/2 (20.4) -Short 58
Australia won by 49 runs (DLS method)
PLAYER OF THE MATCH
Travis Head
PLAYER OF THE SERIES
Travis Head
Surely they have a right though to protect their own interests.
To many players recently pulling out even before the competition starts , others leaving before the season concludes despite stating they are available for the full duration.
Imagine a lot of planning/work goes into getting the right OS players and getting the right players.
Quite a number of boards have no issue making their players available for the full duration.
I guess a lot of CA contracted players are lucky they don't really "need" IPL money (interesting next year they will be getting match payments as well per game).
Plenty of players around the world would jump at the opportunity of a IPL contract.
On a side not I see the owners of Delhi Capitals have purchased Hampshire , so probably the first of many entries into the English country set-up.
The Hundred will be going down the track of private ownership next season , just a matter of time before CA allows foreign ownership of the BBL clubs.
Wish CA would actually do something to guarantee the best T20 players are playing BBL (big issue when a lot can't even be bothered nominating for the Draft in any case).
I guess when our best players aren't even available (or play limited games) hard to expect OS players to play the whole competition.
To many players recently pulling out even before the competition starts , others leaving before the season concludes despite stating they are available for the full duration.
Imagine a lot of planning/work goes into getting the right OS players and getting the right players.
Quite a number of boards have no issue making their players available for the full duration.
I guess a lot of CA contracted players are lucky they don't really "need" IPL money (interesting next year they will be getting match payments as well per game).
Plenty of players around the world would jump at the opportunity of a IPL contract.
On a side not I see the owners of Delhi Capitals have purchased Hampshire , so probably the first of many entries into the English country set-up.
The Hundred will be going down the track of private ownership next season , just a matter of time before CA allows foreign ownership of the BBL clubs.
Wish CA would actually do something to guarantee the best T20 players are playing BBL (big issue when a lot can't even be bothered nominating for the Draft in any case).
I guess when our best players aren't even available (or play limited games) hard to expect OS players to play the whole competition.
They could simply make the IPL auction a one year contract event. Player needs a break just doesn't nominate for the draft. But I suspect because the chance to make huge amounts of money is just so important the teams want to lock in players. Pity the various cricket authorities cannot get together with the private guys and find some middle ground that allows both to co exist. If this does not happen eventually we will see talented players that never play for their countries (either because they don't want to or cannot justify the financial loss) and just play private leagues for the money. Imagine if we never get to see this 13 kid Suryavanshi, who just hit a 58 ball ton against the Australian U19 team play for India against Australia in a Boxing Day Test? Sad.
Love to see what Nicky P could do in Test cricket , but given he has only played 5 FC matches in his career I doubt that ever happens , be surprised if he (and their other white ball specialists) even play domestic red ball cricket in the West Indies anymore
Was just looking at some stats on some others
Pollard 687 T20s v 27 FC matches
Narine 526 T20s v 13 FC matches (includes 6 Tests)
Russell 526 T20s v 17 FC matches (includes 1 Test)
Hopefully the ICC does go ahead with the Test fund a minimum standard match fee for players across the board and players outside of the "Big 3" maybe more interested in red ball cricket again instead of chasing the white ball money.
Hard to knock back the dollars if you are good enough to get a IPL contract then play MLC , BBL/ILT 20/SA 20 etc etc
Was just looking at some stats on some others
Pollard 687 T20s v 27 FC matches
Narine 526 T20s v 13 FC matches (includes 6 Tests)
Russell 526 T20s v 17 FC matches (includes 1 Test)
Hopefully the ICC does go ahead with the Test fund a minimum standard match fee for players across the board and players outside of the "Big 3" maybe more interested in red ball cricket again instead of chasing the white ball money.
Hard to knock back the dollars if you are good enough to get a IPL contract then play MLC , BBL/ILT 20/SA 20 etc etc
interesting approach (if they implement it) , I guess they still have opportunities in their off-season
English cricket to clamp down on players’ franchise league involvement
Exclusive: ECB aims to protect domestic game as players use county facilities all year then take overseas gigs – but IPL will remain exempt
English cricket is ready to block players appearing in franchise leagues amid fears of an exodus of talent during the domestic season.
Next year, the Pakistan Super League will become the latest overseas franchise league to clash with the English season, as the England and Wales Cricket Board considers how to protect the domestic game.
One option strongly considered is to bar all-format domestic players from appearing in overseas leagues, with the exception of the Indian Premier League.
The ECB accepts English players will continue to gravitate to the IPL, which has been running since 2008 and is the world’s most lucrative league, and allows all centrally contracted players to appear in the competition.
But players contracted to county sides need to get a No Objection Certificate (NOC) approved by both their county and the ECB in order to appear in overseas cricket during the English summer.
Counties are concerned an increasing number of players are viewing playing in the English domestic game as a “fall-back” option.
While using their club’s training and medical facilities throughout the year, players with long-term county contracts are missing domestic games to play other leagues.
In the past, the ECB has had a relaxed approach to giving out NOCs for cricketers without central contracts – effectively leaving it up to the individual county to decide whether to release the player.
But the ECB is now planning to take stronger leadership on the issue, and is considering adopting a policy of barring players from departing during the campaign.
‘Battle to protect County Championship’
Next year, the Pakistan Super League will move to a slot from April 7 to May 20 – directly clashing with the English season for the first time. The PSL could stick with this window permanently, which would make the clash annual.
English players have often thrived in the PSL, with 16 appearing in last year’s competition. If such a number appeared in the PSL next year, it would dramatically undermine the County Championship.
This year, Major League Cricket, the Global T20 Canada, the Caribbean Premier League and the Zim Afro T10 have all clashed with the English summer.
One leading player agent warned the growth of franchise competitions during the English summer could encourage more English players to become white-ball specialists.
“If the PSL stays in the new window it’s going to drive them even more to white-ball,” the agent said, adding that the ECB faces “an uphill battle to protect the County Championship” in the current climate.
A less welcoming attitude to giving out NOCs would be designed to encourage players to continue to play in England during the domestic summer.
In April and May next year, there will be 122 combined overseas slots in the IPL and PSL.
This has raised fears that over 30 England players could appear in either of these competitions, while there are also a growing number of overseas tournaments during the prime months of summer.
The ECB is consulting over the finer details of the new policy, and is eager not to inadvertently drive county players into becoming white-ball specialists.
But there is a consensus about the need to protect the domestic summer as the global calendar becomes more saturated.
A new game-wide policy could be agreed in the coming weeks, which will see the ECB take more of a lead on NOCs, as a number of county directors of cricket have urged.
The status quo is seen as giving individual players too much power: if, say, one county threatens to block a player from appearing in a foreign league, they could then threaten to move to another county.
‘County Championship could become development competition’
This year, Lancashire pace bowler Luke Wood missed the club’s final matches in Division One – as the club fought in vain to stay up – to appear in the Zim Afro T10, a 10-over-a-side competition in Zimbabwe.
Such a move would not be permitted under the mooted change in the NOC policy, unless Wood was to retire from first-class cricket altogether.
Lancashire chief executive Daniel Gidney recently criticised how county contracts had become “diluted”. He called for action to stop English players appearing in foreign leagues and the value of top-tier county contracts to be increased.
Gidney warned that “the current player market could lead to a situation where the championship becomes like the 50-over competition – a development competition”.
A new approach from the ECB could also encourage some players to stay in England throughout the home summer.
“It’s a very competitive world out there,” the player agent said.
“So if you’re going to prioritise white-ball, you have to be pretty sure that you’re going to be getting those contracts.”
Some English players without central contracts are already white-ball specialists.
This year, Jason Roy missed T20 Blast fixtures for Surrey to appear in Major League Cricket and the Caribbean Premier League.
Alex Hales missed Blast matches for Nottinghamshire to appear in the Lanka Premier League.
“It’s not our choice really,” Notts head coach Peter Moores said at the time.
“Players have the choice now, the players decide.
And they have so much choice, there are so many leagues around.”
English cricket to clamp down on players’ franchise league involvement
Exclusive: ECB aims to protect domestic game as players use county facilities all year then take overseas gigs – but IPL will remain exempt
English cricket is ready to block players appearing in franchise leagues amid fears of an exodus of talent during the domestic season.
Next year, the Pakistan Super League will become the latest overseas franchise league to clash with the English season, as the England and Wales Cricket Board considers how to protect the domestic game.
One option strongly considered is to bar all-format domestic players from appearing in overseas leagues, with the exception of the Indian Premier League.
The ECB accepts English players will continue to gravitate to the IPL, which has been running since 2008 and is the world’s most lucrative league, and allows all centrally contracted players to appear in the competition.
But players contracted to county sides need to get a No Objection Certificate (NOC) approved by both their county and the ECB in order to appear in overseas cricket during the English summer.
Counties are concerned an increasing number of players are viewing playing in the English domestic game as a “fall-back” option.
While using their club’s training and medical facilities throughout the year, players with long-term county contracts are missing domestic games to play other leagues.
In the past, the ECB has had a relaxed approach to giving out NOCs for cricketers without central contracts – effectively leaving it up to the individual county to decide whether to release the player.
But the ECB is now planning to take stronger leadership on the issue, and is considering adopting a policy of barring players from departing during the campaign.
‘Battle to protect County Championship’
Next year, the Pakistan Super League will move to a slot from April 7 to May 20 – directly clashing with the English season for the first time. The PSL could stick with this window permanently, which would make the clash annual.
English players have often thrived in the PSL, with 16 appearing in last year’s competition. If such a number appeared in the PSL next year, it would dramatically undermine the County Championship.
This year, Major League Cricket, the Global T20 Canada, the Caribbean Premier League and the Zim Afro T10 have all clashed with the English summer.
One leading player agent warned the growth of franchise competitions during the English summer could encourage more English players to become white-ball specialists.
“If the PSL stays in the new window it’s going to drive them even more to white-ball,” the agent said, adding that the ECB faces “an uphill battle to protect the County Championship” in the current climate.
A less welcoming attitude to giving out NOCs would be designed to encourage players to continue to play in England during the domestic summer.
In April and May next year, there will be 122 combined overseas slots in the IPL and PSL.
This has raised fears that over 30 England players could appear in either of these competitions, while there are also a growing number of overseas tournaments during the prime months of summer.
The ECB is consulting over the finer details of the new policy, and is eager not to inadvertently drive county players into becoming white-ball specialists.
But there is a consensus about the need to protect the domestic summer as the global calendar becomes more saturated.
A new game-wide policy could be agreed in the coming weeks, which will see the ECB take more of a lead on NOCs, as a number of county directors of cricket have urged.
The status quo is seen as giving individual players too much power: if, say, one county threatens to block a player from appearing in a foreign league, they could then threaten to move to another county.
‘County Championship could become development competition’
This year, Lancashire pace bowler Luke Wood missed the club’s final matches in Division One – as the club fought in vain to stay up – to appear in the Zim Afro T10, a 10-over-a-side competition in Zimbabwe.
Such a move would not be permitted under the mooted change in the NOC policy, unless Wood was to retire from first-class cricket altogether.
Lancashire chief executive Daniel Gidney recently criticised how county contracts had become “diluted”. He called for action to stop English players appearing in foreign leagues and the value of top-tier county contracts to be increased.
Gidney warned that “the current player market could lead to a situation where the championship becomes like the 50-over competition – a development competition”.
A new approach from the ECB could also encourage some players to stay in England throughout the home summer.
“It’s a very competitive world out there,” the player agent said.
“So if you’re going to prioritise white-ball, you have to be pretty sure that you’re going to be getting those contracts.”
Some English players without central contracts are already white-ball specialists.
This year, Jason Roy missed T20 Blast fixtures for Surrey to appear in Major League Cricket and the Caribbean Premier League.
Alex Hales missed Blast matches for Nottinghamshire to appear in the Lanka Premier League.
“It’s not our choice really,” Notts head coach Peter Moores said at the time.
“Players have the choice now, the players decide.
And they have so much choice, there are so many leagues around.”
Women's T20 World Cup starting tonight. Not that you'd know about it because it's locked to Amazon... sigh.
More broadly I do wonder if there is a big dilution effect from so many global tournaments. I get there's still an element of catch-up from COVID here, which is probably just ending now, but in any given four year period you have four T20 World Cups (two men, two women), two ODI World Cups, a Champions Trophy, and two Test championship games. That while the franchise environment is still expanding. I do wonder where the breaking point is going to be.
More broadly I do wonder if there is a big dilution effect from so many global tournaments. I get there's still an element of catch-up from COVID here, which is probably just ending now, but in any given four year period you have four T20 World Cups (two men, two women), two ODI World Cups, a Champions Trophy, and two Test championship games. That while the franchise environment is still expanding. I do wonder where the breaking point is going to be.
