Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion - OPEN

[Herbie66]

My opening shot for the season
I've always travelled (unsuccessfully) down the mid-pricer path & initially thought I'd change tack this year, but I definitely havent!
$50K left in the kitty

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I have tried to steer away from players with an early bye but have included a handful that look to be really good value - ie Stewart, Day, Parish & Will Ashcroft. Possibly Stewart becomes Holmes and the R0 results could see me switch Ashcroft to Finn Callaghan.

My first thoughts were to go for a third ruck as Flex, but then if I wanted Boyd as R3, I was really limiting any creative opportunities that the Flex offers.

I have skipped over the 35 highest prices mids which leaves Rozee as M1. This obviously leaves me looking light on for Captn options and my M1-M5 arent as impressive as those put up by other SCS coaches. However I reckon the upper echelon are fairly priced and there arent too many of them I seriously considered.

A couple of spots namely Urquhart & Stone are based on pre-season hype articles.

There is plenty of time for more changes but I would expect this squad to be the framework of my final line-up.

It's hard not to look at the mid-pricers though when so many under $ 400k look viable eg :-

Mills , Coleman , Doedee
Peatling
Flynn
Macrae , Smith , Parker , Philippou , Daniel

Then add in a few in the $ 400-500 k range eg :-

McKercher / Rivers / Short
Day / Durham / Oliver / Ashcroft / Cerra

If the rookie mids present I quite like the look of :-

D : 2-3-3
M: 2-1-8 (Rookie @ M4 🤔)
R: 2-0-1
F: 0-5-3

Flex : Flynn

10 mid-pricers/value , with the view that 7 turn out season long keepers

All depends on the strength of the mid rookies

Easy enough to swing a F DPP to the mids and field another F rookie onfield

 

[MagpiePotato]

Is there a reason Heeney is at only 3%. I get the early bye and he tailed off a bit last season, but that still seems very low?

The reason is he is priced at 116 average, before last season he never went over 101. So there is risk there. He clearly moved into a much more midfield role last year and considering how good he was at it there is a decent chance it continues, so if you love him as a player i think you could still pick him, but that is the reason his ownership is low.

 

[Deeman1]

It's hard not to look at the mid-pricers though when so many under $ 400k look viable eg :-

Mills , Coleman , Doedee
Peatling
Flynn
Macrae , Smith , Parker , Philippou , Daniel

Then add in a few in the $ 400-500 k range eg :-

McKercher / Rivers / Short
Day / Durham / Oliver / Ashcroft / Cerra

If the rookie mids present I quite like the look of :-

D : 2-3-3
M: 2-1-8 (Rookie @ M4 🤔)
R: 2-0-1
F: 0-5-3

Flex : Flynn

10 mid-pricers/value , with the view that 7 turn out season long keepers

All depends on the strength of the mid rookies

Easy enough to swing a F DPP to the mids and field another F rookie onfield

This is where I'm basically at right now

ClarkJ, McKercher, Short, Mills, Coleman, Travagalia (El-Hawli, AllenB)
Bontempelli, Serong, Cripps, Oliver, Peatling, Lalor, Ashcroft, SmithJ (Draper, Smillie, Knevitt)
Marshall, De Konig (Boyd)
Macrae, SmithBr, Sanders, Phillipou, Daniel, Lynch (Hewett, Erasmus)
Flynn

I don't love it, but it is OK for now, until the rookie landscape becomes clearer, I understand there are major ???'s on Colemans availability for Rd 1

 

[Singapore Flyers]

Been looking a lot closer at Rankine the last couple of days. Everything I am reading indicates that he will be playing mid this year. Has shown a natural progression in scoring over the last few years, and if playing more mid this year, I am inclined to think that trend continues. Hard to know with Adelaide what they will do, but they do seem to have a lot of the same, slower mids, that Rankine would o***et reasonably well. Also seems to miss a few games each year so far in his career. Haven't looked yet whether they are all injury related. Preseason games will give a good indication I guess. As with all the forwards this year, I don't see him getting out of control, price wise, so definitely won't be a must have.

I agree with your read on Rankine as a potential F1 or F2 come season end. I am a bit worried with his high ceiling that he might get out of control. My feeling at the moment is to start him, potentially as Flex. That way if he is just ok in the first few rounds I can sideways trade him to anyone on any line that starts off on fire and looks like a must have - like Zorko last year.

 

[Singapore Flyers]

Wit

This is where I'm basically at right now

ClarkJ, McKercher, Short, Mills, Coleman, Travagalia (El-Hawli, AllenB)
Bontempelli, Serong, Cripps, Oliver, Peatling, Lalor, Ashcroft, SmithJ (Draper, Smillie, Knevitt)
Marshall, De Konig (Boyd)
Macrae, SmithBr, Sanders, Phillipou, Daniel, Lynch (Hewett, Erasmus)
Flynn

I don't love it, but it is OK for now, until the rookie landscape becomes clearer, I understand there are major ???'s on Colemans availability for Rd 1

with Coleman, I think there are a few options around the price that might mean you don’t have to radically alter your structure if he’s not ready. I think Doedee is the best, but there is also Milera, Sinn, Schoenmaker and a few Richmond defenders. Of course, none of these might pop up, but there is a chance one will. Like D’Ambrosio last year.

 

[Herbie66]

This is where I'm basically at right now

ClarkJ, McKercher, Short, Mills, Coleman, Travagalia (El-Hawli, AllenB)
Bontempelli, Serong, Cripps, Oliver, Peatling, Lalor, Ashcroft, SmithJ (Draper, Smillie, Knevitt)
Marshall, De Konig (Boyd)
Macrae, SmithBr, Sanders, Phillipou, Daniel, Lynch (Hewett, Erasmus)
Flynn

I don't love it, but it is OK for now, until the rookie landscape becomes clearer, I understand there are major ???'s on Colemans availability for Rd 1

Nothing wrong with it given we are 48 days out.

Just been playing around with some different structures , I have been using Lalor - > Draper as my M4 to M11 at this stage for planning , far easier to adjust down than up when the rookie picture becomes clearer , so will have some money to adjust either up to a Peatling price type.

F5 & F6 rookie probably is viable as well

I guess one advantage of the Lions playing Round 0 is we will have a idea on Coleman , could be a few alternative options available at similar price.

 

[Herbie66]

It's hard not to look at the mid-pricers though when so many under $ 400k look viable eg :-

Mills , Coleman , Doedee
Peatling
Flynn
Macrae , Smith , Parker , Philippou , Daniel

Then add in a few in the $ 400-500 k range eg :-

McKercher / Rivers / Short
Day / Durham / Oliver / Ashcroft / Cerra

If the rookie mids present I quite like the look of :-

D : 2-3-3
M: 2-1-8 (Rookie @ M4 🤔)
R: 2-0-1
F: 0-5-3

Flex : Flynn

10 mid-pricers/value , with the view that 7 turn out season long keepers

All depends on the strength of the mid rookies

Easy enough to swing a F DPP to the mids and field another F rookie onfield

Sinclair *, Clark , McKercher , Mills , Coleman + 3
Butters , Serong , Oliver + 8
Gawn , Marshall / + 1
Macrae , Smith * , Parker * , Philippou * , Daniel * + 3
Flynn

 

[Chumpion]

Been looking a lot closer at Rankine the last couple of days. Everything I am reading indicates that he will be playing mid this year. Has shown a natural progression in scoring over the last few years, and if playing more mid this year, I am inclined to think that trend continues. Hard to know with Adelaide what they will do, but they do seem to have a lot of the same, slower mids, that Rankine would o***et reasonably well. Also seems to miss a few games each year so far in his career. Haven't looked yet whether they are all injury related. Preseason games will give a good indication I guess. As with all the forwards this year, I don't see him getting out of control, price wise, so definitely won't be a must have.

With all the value up forward this year I don't think it's worth paying $521k for a forward with as many question marks as he has. There is absolutely a world where he ends up as a top 1-3 forward, but I just don't think you need to carry the risk into your starting side.
Adelaide have acquired a few guys that can float through the midfield, and of all the ones they brought in Rankine by a mile has the most benefit and impact as a forward. He will definitely get some midfield minutes, but how that looks could vary - is he a CB only mid, does he start at HF and push up the ground, or is it a bit of both? Then you have the injury risk, where he has shown a high likelihood of missing blocks of games from injury over his career. All it takes is one of those injuries to hit early in a game and he's potentially a bargain forward upgrade that everyone swoops on.

He's on the watch list for sure, but I see him as upgrade potential as I can't see him having a strong of scores so high he becomes unattainable.

 

[Herbie66]

Been looking a lot closer at Rankine the last couple of days. Everything I am reading indicates that he will be playing mid this year. Has shown a natural progression in scoring over the last few years, and if playing more mid this year, I am inclined to think that trend continues. Hard to know with Adelaide what they will do, but they do seem to have a lot of the same, slower mids, that Rankine would o***et reasonably well. Also seems to miss a few games each year so far in his career. Haven't looked yet whether they are all injury related. Preseason games will give a good indication I guess. As with all the forwards this year, I don't see him getting out of control, price wise, so definitely won't be a must have.

Crows might be getting penalised a lot for breaking the 6-6-6 rule.

Obviously once the ball is bounced/thrown up it doesn't really matter as all teams just generally swarm around the ball in any case.

Crouch , Dawson , Laird (back to HB 🤔) , Rachele , Rankine , Soligo

Add Berry , Curtin , Draper , Keays , Neal-Bullen & Peatling to the mix as well they might have to many options.

Rankine definitely improves their midfield set-up just a matter whether they need him more in the F50.

Modern game is all about versatility.

Remember Clarko in one of his premiership years actually used to run a different 3 (aside from the ruck) at every centre bounce.

Still can remember Milera playing as a mid a few seasons ago and giving them a completely different look.

 

[Herbie66]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1262861...es-and-match-simulations-ahead-of-2025-season

 

[freowho]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1262861...es-and-match-simulations-ahead-of-2025-season

Gold Coast vs Brisbane vs Collingwood?

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Balance - $3,600

Def - I have gone bargain basement shopping for the defence after all everyone loves a bargain.
Mid - I have loaded up to try as save trades, because I tend to go trade frenzy so if I start with them, I won't be chasing them.
Ruck - Darcy going on a solo tour like an ex-boyband member has me worried, so I have gone set and forget.
Fwd - Like everyone else I have gone shopping at Dimmeys for the forwards and fingers crossed for a change of luck for Lynch.
Flex - Might as well have a premium to maximise the value.

Let me know what you think, I appreciate any comments.

Regards

 

[Herbie66]

Gold Coast vs Brisbane vs Collingwood?

Forward thinking for when the game changes in the future 😉

Play each other for 2 quarters each

Fremantle playing the Indigenous All Stars meant 1 club was spare.

 

[warewolves]

Thanks for your thoughts @Deeman1 and @Herbie66

I also was keen to run with 2 gun rucks & with Flynn at Flex
But - as seems likely atm - if Boyd gets picked for the Saints, I think I'd have to have him.
That would leave me with 4 Rucks, so my Flex would always have to come from that group

That's a lot less flexible than if I go the way I am currently set up with a mid/fwd DPP in that slot.
Not absolutely sure if it will play out as an advantage but more options cant hurt..

 

[FlatTrackBully]

Found a very interesting piece of info last night which I thought I could turn into a fun guess who question.

After a new role in 2024 this player recorded the 12th highest PPM score being 1.12 which was higher than players such as Merrett, Sheezel and Daicos.

However their TOG was way below their career average sitting at 74%, they recorded 83% and 84% in the last 2 years respectively in a more established role.

They're currently under 550k and only 3% owned in SuperCoach this year.

Who is this potential breakout in 2025? (please no cheating)

 

[OnTopBar]

Found a very interesting piece of info last night which I thought I could turn into a fun guess who question.

After a new role in 2024 this player recorded the 12th highest PPM score being 1.12 which was higher than players such as Merrett, Sheezel and Daicos.

However their TOG was way below their career average sitting at 74%, they recorded 83% and 84% in the last 2 years respectively in a more established role.

They're currently under 550k and only 3% owned in SuperCoach this year.

Who is this potential breakout in 2025? (please no cheating)

I was thinking Ed Richards but the TOG doesn't marry up, PPM as a mid does though, Hayden Young could be another after moving from HB to mids

 

[Bontempele]

I was thinking Ed Richards but the TOG doesn't marry up, PPM as a mid does though

I thought of him too. My other guess is Hayden Young?

 

[FlatTrackBully]

I was thinking Ed Richards but the TOG doesn't marry up, PPM as a mid does though

Very close, I like the thinking!

I thought of him too. My other guess is Hayden Young?

Yep you've got it!

 

[warewolves]

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Balance - $3,600

Def - I have gone bargain basement shopping for the defence after all everyone loves a bargain.
Mid - I have loaded up to try as save trades, because I tend to go trade frenzy so if I start with them, I won't be chasing them.
Ruck - Darcy going on a solo tour like an ex-boyband member has me worried, so I have gone set and forget.
Fwd - Like everyone else I have gone shopping at Dimmeys for the forwards and fingers crossed for a change of luck for Lynch.
Flex - Might as well have a premium to maximise the value.

Let me know what you think, I appreciate any comments.

Regards

I'd be thinking hard about picking Flynn in that R3 slot - thats $261K that wont score you any points - unless R1 or R2 go down.
If you really want Flynn, you could move him to the Flex spot - obviously you'd also need to find someone else for R3 and ditch one of your mid bench

 

[Under The Dome]

Young had a couple of last quarter games sitting out with corks and tightness.