Position 2025: FORWARDS DISCUSSION

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When Kennedy had >50% CBAs last year, he averaged 97.
93.3 fantasy average to 83.8 SC from 6 x 50%+.

That included a 25 SC subbed on game he managed to get to 50% CBA's from 46% TOG.

He got injured on 89 SC at 38% CBA's (67% TOG) in round 16 vs Richmond.

If you go back to 2022 he had 45-76% in every game he was fit to play and averaged 96.7.
 
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Actually thinking of taking him in the Flex position, covers both Fwd & Ruc and if he has a day out then he's in the 22.

Also against my better judgement, I'm looking at Lynch @ $180k :unsure:
Lynch is a lock and pretty good on field bet, imo, if he's still on the park come round 1. Solid history of 70+ scoring, capable of huge spike scores for cash generation, also the only real forward the Tigers have so will get plenty of chances.

Lot of people I think are getting obsessed with a ruck in the FLEX for coverage. If you've got a ruck missing then you can cover with the FLEX regardless of the players position, it's not quite as good as having the ruck because you only get the 22 scores but, imo, there are no R/F that aren't sub-optimal picks as of now (Jackson could change) so to take one just for that reason is, imo, a bad decision. Obviously if you feel differently about the R/F and think there's one worth taking then that's a different story but I wouldn't take one for the cover.

Eagerly awaiting the preseason games to decide my forwards, I'm really only considering JHF that isn't midpriced right now, which feels weird but also right. Even weirder to me is that if all my names make it (and a couple are already dead) then I will probably use midfield spots to pick more forwards! I can't remember the last time I would have even considered doing that.
 
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Lynch is a lock and pretty good on field bet, imo, if he's still on the park come round 1. Solid history of 70+ scoring, capable of huge spike scores for cash generation, also the only real forward the Tigers have so will get plenty of chances.

Lot of people I think are getting obsessed with a ruck in the FLEX for coverage. If you've got a ruck missing then you can cover with the FLEX regardless of the players position, it's not quite as good as having the ruck because you only get the 22 scores but, imo, there are no R/F that aren't sub-optimal picks as of now (Jackson could change) so to take one just for that reason is, imo, a bad decision. Obviously if you feel differently about the R/F and think there's one worth taking then that's a different story but I wouldn't take one for the cover.

Eagerly awaiting the preseason games to decide my forwards, I'm really only considering JHF that isn't midpriced right now, which feels weird but also right. Even weirder to me is that if all my names make it (and a couple are already dead) then I will probably use midfield spots to pick more forwards! I can't remember the last time I would have even considered doing that.
I agree that Lynch will be a good cash cow, but I would feel nervous starting him on the field, as I can see a number of defenders hanging off him each game. I am not sure if Richmond has players who will supply him with quality passes, like Dusty and Bolton would have done. I am not confident in Taranto doing it.
 
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I agree that Lynch will be a good cash cow, but I would feel nervous starting him on the field, as I can see a number of defenders hanging off him each game. I am not sure if Richmond has players who will supply him with quality passes, like Dusty and Bolton would have done. I am not confident in Taranto doing it.
I'll be starting him, with the plan of looping into Hewett over the early byes. Off course that relies upon the right rookies/players being named, round 2 donut would be Conor Stone, round 3 Bazlenka, round 4 Kako.
 
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I'll be starting him, with the plan of looping into Hewett over the early byes. Off course that relies upon the right rookies/players being named, round 2 donut would be Conor Stone, round 3 Bazlenka, round 4 Kako.
I assume you're referring to Elijah Hewett? I can't find anything to suggest he is any good at Fantasy scoring. Kako looks like he relies on goals which is not great for rookie scoring.
 
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I assume you're referring to Elijah Hewett? I can't find anything to suggest he is any good at Fantasy scoring. Kako looks like he relies on goals which is not great for rookie scoring.
TBH, I don't have much faith in any of the forward rookies hence Lynch at F6, Kako as a FD. Could all change and probably will.
 
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TBH, I don't have much faith in any of the forward rookies hence Lynch at F6, Kako as a FD. Could all change and probably will.
You would think Erasmus will be given a go at Freo. Knevitt and Laurie had some very good VFL scores. Stone trying to pinch a spot in the backline.
Fingers crossed.
 
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You would think Erasmus will be given a go at Freo. Knevitt and Laurie had some very good VFL scores. Stone trying to pinch a spot in the backline.
Fingers crossed.
Have had a watch on Erasmus, so a tick coming from a Freo supporter has him in for Kako, Knevitt is mid only but I have him anyway, Stone is holding a spot for now and also have a watch on Laurie.
 
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Looking a bit further into JHF as a pick and interested to find that 4 of his 7 games at 110 or more came when one of Rozee or Wines were missing.

Albeit being a small sample size but JHF averaged 121.75 in the 4 games where Rozee or Wines missed.

So when all of Butters, Rozee, Wines and JHF played together JHF averaged 87.95 from those 20 games including the finals.

Very small sample size there but found those splits very interesting.

Big watch on how they look to rotate their mids and if it will continue to be much of the same or not.
 
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Looking a bit further into JHF as a pick and interested to find that 4 of his 7 games at 110 or more came when one of Rozee or Wines were missing.

Albeit being a small sample size but JHF averaged 121.75 in the 4 games where Rozee or Wines missed.

So when all of Butters, Rozee, Wines and JHF played together JHF averaged 87.95 from those 20 games including the finals.

Very small sample size there but found those splits very interesting.

Big watch on how they look to rotate their mids and if it will continue to be much of the same or not.
Also kicked a lot of clutch goals to save his score in a few games when he was on for a stinker.
 
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Port CBA numbers last season :-
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JHF scores each round :-

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If his CBAs are 50+ then confident he will score well.

Willem Drew had foot surgery last week, for a planta fascia release so will be missing a big chunk of preseason - maybe out for a month so will be underdone going into the season. Expect Port ease him into the season, JHF might be one that gets an uptick in his CBA numbers to start the season.
 
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Trip abroad steers young Port gun's quest for greatness

Jason Horne-Francis says a trip to the United States in the off-season will help him play more midfield minutes this season

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PORT Adelaide's Jason Horne-Francis believes an off-season trip to the United States can help him morph from good to great.
Horne-Francis and some Power teammates travelled to the US to visit injury prevention experts, resulting in changes to his preparation for the looming season.

"The trip over to America has helped us tinker my gym program, my prehab before training, to get my body right," the 21-year-old told reporters on Monday.

"I have been a bit lucky with my body, obviously with the power - I guess I just really need to make sure I look after it as much as I can.

"And I think the trip definitely helped that, just to learn about my body, learn about more soft tissue and what goes on in there.

"It has been really good for me and I just keep continuing to learn."

Horne-Francis said the takeaways from the trip should help him play increased midfield minutes.

"Looking after my body in season (can) always improve my fitness obviously, being more consistent through our games.

"And not just having patches is probably where I need to get better, if I can keep having more good moments and turning them into big games that will go a long way.

"Whether it's my running patterns or it's my fitness, I think I've learned a lot over the last couple of years and it will hold me in good stead to be able to play some more minutes in the midfield."

Horne-Francis played 24 of 26 games last season, when the Power were ultimately beaten in a preliminary final by Sydney.

"I think we had the youngest finals team going into it so the learnings were just, I guess, getting a bit of exposure to finals footy, which some of us young boys probably didn't have, getting more experience with that," he said.

"It's a tough competition, only one team can win it and we know it's really hard internally to do.

"So I think you got to move on as quick as you can and just take a lot of learnings out of what it was.

"(But) it's definitely a driver. Seeing the teams on the last day, that builds the fire in your belly to want to be there on that day and want to win so definitely every year, it builds that fire."
 
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Looking a bit further into JHF as a pick and interested to find that 4 of his 7 games at 110 or more came when one of Rozee or Wines were missing.

Albeit being a small sample size but JHF averaged 121.75 in the 4 games where Rozee or Wines missed.

So when all of Butters, Rozee, Wines and JHF played together JHF averaged 87.95 from those 20 games including the finals.

Very small sample size there but found those splits very interesting.

Big watch on how they look to rotate their mids and if it will continue to be much of the same or not.
Remember reading earlier this year, he said himself he's not fit enough for full time mid yet, but should get a smallnincrease you'd think.
 
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I agree that Lynch will be a good cash cow, but I would feel nervous starting him on the field, as I can see a number of defenders hanging off him each game. I am not sure if Richmond has players who will supply him with quality passes, like Dusty and Bolton would have done. I am not confident in Taranto doing it.
Yeah 180k seems a lot to sit on the fwd bench but I see Lynch as a must loop candidate. The Tiges forward line may be lucky to see the ball a dozen times in some games too :LOL:
 
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Looking a bit further into JHF as a pick and interested to find that 4 of his 7 games at 110 or more came when one of Rozee or Wines were missing.

Albeit being a small sample size but JHF averaged 121.75 in the 4 games where Rozee or Wines missed.

So when all of Butters, Rozee, Wines and JHF played together JHF averaged 87.95 from those 20 games including the finals.

Very small sample size there but found those splits very interesting.

Big watch on how they look to rotate their mids and if it will continue to be much of the same or not.
all those 3 were durable last year too
 

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Looking a bit further into JHF as a pick and interested to find that 4 of his 7 games at 110 or more came when one of Rozee or Wines were missing.

Albeit being a small sample size but JHF averaged 121.75 in the 4 games where Rozee or Wines missed.

So when all of Butters, Rozee, Wines and JHF played together JHF averaged 87.95 from those 20 games including the finals.

Very small sample size there but found those splits very interesting.

Big watch on how they look to rotate their mids and if it will continue to be much of the same or not.
There was some discussion about Port’s mids early last season. I think it was stated by the club that they wouldn’t play Butters, Rozee and JHF all together at a CBA, because they wanted others (eg Drew and Wines) in there to improve the combination. For much of the season I believe they stuck to that strictly, relaxing it a little in the latter part of the season if I recall correctly.

To me that suggests that when Butters or Rozee misses, JHF’s opportunity will increase, because he’s not sharing <=200% CBAs between the three of them.
 
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